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Originally Posted by 370zdub To all the people complaining about Nissans marketing approach, I have never seen an add or article direct from Nissan stating that it was a "track"

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Old 12-30-2009, 12:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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To all the people complaining about Nissans marketing approach, I have never seen an add or article direct from Nissan stating that it was a "track" car.
Really? From a Nismo catalog, not very hard to find:

NISMO is world-renowned as the premier source for extreme Nissan performance. From Japanese GT racers to Dakar Rally trucks, to the wildest
versions of the Skyline GT-R, NISMO gives you an all-access pass to genuine factory-engineered, dyno-tested, racetrack-proven performance.
And as you’d expect from the same engineers who design Sports Prototypes to run at full sprint for 24 grueling hours, NISMO components are built to last.

Support from the factory means that every NISMO component is thoroughly engineered and rigorously tested to ensure a seamless fit and
outstanding performance mile after mile. Whether you’re a Z driver aiming to outrun Porsches around a track or an Altima driver who wants to sharpen its street-ready edge, NISMO stands ready to take your Nissan to the next level.
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Really? From a Nismo catalog, not very hard to find:

NISMO is world-renowned as the premier source for extreme Nissan performance. From Japanese GT racers to Dakar Rally trucks, to the wildest
versions of the Skyline GT-R, NISMO gives you an all-access pass to genuine factory-engineered, dyno-tested, racetrack-proven performance.
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Support from the factory means that every NISMO component is thoroughly engineered and rigorously tested to ensure a seamless fit and
outstanding performance mile after mile. Whether you’re a Z driver aiming to outrun Porsches around a track or an Altima driver who wants to sharpen its street-ready edge, NISMO stands ready to take your Nissan to the next level.
I'm still failing to see where it exactly words the Nismo 370Z is a Track car.
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I'm still failing to see where it exactly words the Nismo 370Z is a Track car.
Screw the track part, how about performance car in general? That should be broad enough, by far, to further validate the point.

Factory built "performance" cars shouldn't overheat, or exhibit high oil temps consistently, nor should their brakes/brake pads "fail."

Reliability and longevity are quintessential for a performance car, especially at a $40k price range....
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I'm still failing to see where it exactly words the Nismo 370Z is a Track car.
OK, I guess the bold type was a bad idea in your case.
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Really? From a Nismo catalog, not very hard to find:

NISMO is world-renowned as the premier source for extreme Nissan performance. From Japanese GT racers to Dakar Rally trucks, to the wildest
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outstanding performance mile after mile. Whether you’re a Z driver aiming to outrun Porsches around a track or an Altima driver who wants to sharpen its street-ready edge, NISMO stands ready to take your Nissan to the next level.
The NISMO catalog is not about the Nismo 370z though, they are selling track parts specifically from that magazine. The Nismo 370z itself has only two true Nismo parts, the tune and the exhaust, the brakes, cooling, etc. are all non-nismo parts.
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The NISMO catalog is not about the Nismo 370z though, they are selling track parts specifically from that magazine. The Nismo 370z itself has only two true Nismo parts, the tune and the exhaust, the brakes, cooling, etc. are all non-nismo parts.
Exactly my point again! Bad marketing. They are marketing the car (Nismo) as track-ready when it isn't.
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Exactly my point again! Bad marketing. They are marketing the car (Nismo) as track-ready when it isn't.
My point is that it is not, two pieces of the car are Nismo branded, nothing else is so it is not track ready or being advertised as such. Just because it has a Nismo exhaust & tune does not make it track ready. The brakes are a BBK but nowhere does it says "track ready."
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My point is that it is not, two pieces of the car are Nismo branded, nothing else is so it is not track ready or being advertised as such. Just because it has a Nismo exhaust & tune does not make it track ready. The brakes are a BBK but nowhere does it says "track ready."
I believe the Nismo specific parts would be the Nismo suspension, body/chassis dampers, exhaust, "tune/ecu," strut brace, and aero. That's a bit more than two pieces.

That's aside from the "sport brakes" and Advan tires-

That's a lot of additions for a "street/non-track ready car"
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I believe the Nismo specific parts would be the Nismo suspension, body/chassis dampers, exhaust, "tune/ecu," strut brace, and aero. That's a bit more than two pieces.

That's aside from the "sport brakes" and Advan tires-

That's a lot of additions for a "street/non-track ready car"
Sorry I did forget about the suspension upgrade.
Aero kit is not a big item for track in my view in this discussion.
"Sport brakes" are not track brakes
Advan tires have actually been shown to be on par on lower than the RE50 in some tests.

So we are still at exhust/tune, suspension, not really anything that will make your car track ready in my eyes or even has been mentioned by Nissan as being track ready.
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So we are still at exhust/tune, suspension, not really anything that will make your car track ready in my eyes or even has been mentioned by Nissan as being track ready.
Then they should not call it "Nismo"

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Sorry I did forget about the suspension upgrade.
Aero kit is not a big item for track in my view in this discussion.
"Sport brakes" are not track brakes
Advan tires have actually been shown to be on par on lower than the RE50 in some tests.

So we are still at exhust/tune, suspension, not really anything that will make your car track ready in my eyes or even has been mentioned by Nissan as being track ready.
All good, no reason to apologize. Any way you look at it, is it really a stretch to imagine the Nismo Z as Nissan's shot a weekend track car? I think it'd be a stretch not to view it that way.

I mean if not, why use a base 370z as a platform for the flagship 370 Z? Why not offer a leather interior, navi, or a better stereo?

If not to cut out weight, maybe cost?
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