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Originally Posted by spearfish25 I'm not a big drifter, but this ebrake is completely unreliable for holding the car on a hill by itself. You really have to pull the

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Old 12-15-2009, 10:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm not a big drifter, but this ebrake is completely unreliable for holding the car on a hill by itself.
You really have to pull the ebrake all the way for it to work little.

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As for the "leave it in gear" vs ebrake when parking...you guys don't live in a cold climate. Anyone in a freezing climate can tell you about a story when their ebrake froze. Most people here just leave a manual transmission in gear without a parking brake engaged.
,again. And this also goes for when you park a car when the brakes are hot, the rotors can warp or worse... few years ago I picked up our company loaner car for a business trip. The previous user obviously lived by the slogan "Don't be gentle, it's a rental", as he or she parked the car with glowing hot rear brakes and put the ebrakes on "firmly". When I tried to drive the car a few days later, the brakes were stuck, so I rocked the car back and forth until the brakes "released". However, after driving a few feet I realized that only part of the brakes released, as about half of the brake pad was still stuck to the rotor...


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As for the idea of straining your transmission by leaving it in gear...which do you think has higher load on the transmission cogs: 1) parking a car and leaving it in gear while resting against a cog or 2) driving away under heavy acceleration? As another person posted, I've been leaving my MTs in gear without an ebrake engaged for the better part of a decade with no problems.
And again. I have driven manuals for the past 15+ years and always parked them in 1st gear, never had any problems. I can't imagine that a parked car can put more strain on the gearbox then a 3.7LV6 at WOT...


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+1 for wanting to upgrade our POS Flintstone ebrakes. I could stop my car faster by dragging my foot out the driver's door.
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This might be off topic but when your coming to a stop, you down shift into a lower gear but still have the clutch depress and also press on the breaks to stop, will it cause any damage?
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This might be off topic but when your coming to a stop, you down shift into a lower gear but still have the clutch depress and also press on the breaks to stop, will it cause any damage?
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There are 3 adjustments FYI, one in each rotors, plus an adjustment at the handle (provided it is the same as the 350z). I shimmed mine at the handle, adjusted the rears, and put Project Mu drum pads in the rear. Locks for drifting just fine

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Depends on the track layout, e-brake is needed to initiate tight radius corners.
And straight away entries while dragging it down an outer clip.
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There are 3 adjustments FYI, one in each rotors, plus an adjustment at the handle (provided it is the same as the 350z). I shimmed mine at the handle, adjusted the rears, and put Project Mu drum pads in the rear. Locks for drifting just fine


And straight away entries while dragging it down an outer clip.
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For all the people worried about putting strain on the transmission when leaving it in gear while parked. You realize that when you actually drive the car there is possibly 1000x more load on the transmission compared to just holding it on an incline. There is no possible way, even on the steepest incline that leaving the car in gear when you park it could do any damage to the transmission.
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I've driven standard transmission cars for 44 years and only use the e-brake when the engine is running and I want to get out of the vehicle for a moment. This idea of straining the transmission seems foolish to me. Side stepping the clutch pedal at 5,000 rpm is the only time to worry about straining your transmission(and clutch, u-joints and differential).
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A noob question, but I'm kind of confused... In order to park with the car in gear, you need to shut off the car while having the clutch depressed... so the correct process would be...

neutral, e-brake, depress clutch, back to first, turn off?

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stay in first, clutch depressed, e-brake, turn off?

I'm guessing either would be ok, or am I completely off base lol

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To park in gear:

Come to a stop with the car in 1st and clutch depressed. Turn the car off. Release the clutch. Voila! (You don't need an ebrake to park)
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I tested my ebrake yesterday. In neutral, on a hill, my ebrake works just fine even only half engaged. Fully engaged, even on a steep incline, I would feel not leaving it in gear.

However, like others, leaving it in gear doesn't phase me. I park it in 1st every time, hill or not, out of habit.
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To park in gear:

Come to a stop with the car in 1st and clutch depressed. Turn the car off. Release the clutch. Voila! (You don't need an ebrake to park)
In my old car, I had a habit of letting out the clutch before the engine was fully off. The dumbass lurch that followed convinced me to park in neutral normally, tossing it in gear when I'm on a steep hill.
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lurching is funny, esp when there's a structure in front of you

had some kid pay me to put a remote start on his Ford [can't remember the model] and it was a stick. told him to make sure he parked in neutral every time or it'd be a problem when he went to start it. got his car worked on and the dash replaced (recall, it was peeling away from the frame) and he remote started it. lurched right into a wall, hard enough to deploy the airbags.
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After reading that our Z lost major points in the C&D Drift competition partly due to the parking brake being unable to lock the wheels, I decided to test mine out a bit.

Not sure if you guys have used the parking brake much, but it absolutely blows. The damn thing can barely hold the car on a 2% grade with the brake fully 'pulled'. Even better...try using it to stop the car when you're rolling at 5 or 10 mph. A full, hard pull just slows the car very gradually.

Is this an adjustment issue or did Nissan install a joke of an e-brake?
I'm on nissan/infiniti vehicle #4 now. And all my e brakes were weak. The e brake needs a tune for drifting.
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Hey, the way I see it, the parking brake is under warantee from Nissan for 30,000 miles... If I activate the brake, and my car goes downhill and crashes into something, guess who foots the bill?? (Well, atleast on paper!!)
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^Parking brake requires periodic adjustment and adjustments IIRC are only covered for 12 months/12,000 miles. If an adjustment is needed it's up to you to adjust it or take it in - Nissan will not cover anything related to a parking brake failure unless you have a good case, and most likely a good lawyer. (Former consumer affairs employee for another auto maker here).

For my I just use the parking brake on level ground. On an incline I also put it in gear and turn my wheels to the curb as taught in drivers ed those many years ago.
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