Parking Brake Sucks?

racerxj17 · 12-15-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan

Well it's not that I use ONLY the transmission. I use both at the same time. Does that still put a strain on the transmission??

no.

nicknick · 12-15-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

Well it's not that I use ONLY the transmission. I use both at the same time. Does that still put a strain on the transmission??

To avoid putting strain on the transmission this is what i do; come to a stop, pull handbrake up enough to hold car firmly whilst keeping foot on the brake, release brake, car should be rock solid, than put brake back on and put into gear and release brake and switch engine off. This way tranny is not stressed, car is firmly held in place by handbrake and if need be the tranny can act as an emergency position holder. Doing it this way particularly for auto transmissions places no strain on them and can be smoothly and easily put from park to drive with no clunky or bangy noises.

Trips · 12-16-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor

All I know is that it puts a strain on the transmission, where the transmission was not designed to be an e-brake. Even in an automatic, not using your e-brake puts strain on your sprag and other components.

I hate to disagree, the same strain or more gets put on it as your driving off in gear.. Personally I think using both is a good safety precaution..

vipor · 12-16-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

I hate to disagree, the same strain or more gets put on it as your driving off in gear.. Personally I think using both is a good safety precaution..

for someone that hates to disagree, you sure handled it without too much discomfort

lol

i see what you're sayin and it make sense. it's a great safety backup if the ebrake isn't able to cut the mustard

Trips · 12-16-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor

for someone that hates to disagree, you sure handled it without too much discomfort

lol

i see what you're sayin and it make sense. it's a great safety backup if the ebrake isn't able to cut the mustard

370Zsteve · 12-17-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor

for someone that hates to disagree, you sure handled it without too much discomfort

lol

Chupacabra · 12-15-2009, 11:28 AM

The strain placed on the spurs.... are neglectful. I have been leaving cars in gears for a good percentage of a quarter of a century... never had a problem. but it now intrigues me to find out how much strain the spurs are receiving.

ChrisSlicks · 12-15-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

The strain placed on the spurs.... are neglectful. I have been leaving cars in gears for a good percentage of a quarter of a century... never had a problem. but it now intrigues me to find out how much strain the spurs are receiving.

Yeah, I've always done both for the last 20 years. I pull the e-brake first and make sure it holds, and then throw it in gear as a safety. There's no strain on the spurs unless the e-brake was to fade or fail.

You can tighten the e-brake cable slack if it feels like there is too much play in the handle.

370Zsteve · 12-17-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

The strain placed on the spurs.... are neglectful. I have been leaving cars in gears for a good percentage of a quarter of a century... never had a problem. but it now intrigues me to find out how much strain the spurs are receiving.

Not sure what neglectful means here

, but I have also put my cars in gear for years. The parking brake has been used sparingly, if at all, unless on a very steep grade.

No issues at all.

Never had to replace a stretched parking brake cable either.

phelan · 12-15-2009, 11:30 AM

I'm just gonna park it the way I always have then.

I'm amused to know how many of us park a certain way, e-brake only, e-brake + gear, gear only.

Gear only = ??? in my mind, but maybe it works lol

GT Motoring · 12-15-2009, 11:47 AM

Yeah if you use your ebrake, then put it in gear after already putting the e-brake up there would be no strain on the trans unless you are on a HUGE hill and the e-brake is then doing nothing.

I doubt even then it will cause anything bad to happen.

I have just always used only the e-brake whenever possible. Cause in my eyes brake pads and rotors are cheap compared to a clutch and transmission, that's why I never downshift when coming to a stop light. Just put it in neutral and coast then use the brakes. But that is a whole different topic...

Another way to look at it would be if someone hits your car while it is parked, and it is in gear the car will not move, it will be like hitting a brick wall... but if someone hits your car and only the e-brake is on, the car will slightly move so it wont be as bad. I know this has nothing to do with you but something to think about, haha.

phelan · 12-15-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GT Motoring

Yeah if you use your ebrake, then put it in gear after already putting the e-brake up there would be no strain on the trans unless you are on a HUGE hill and the e-brake is then doing nothing.

I doubt even then it will cause anything bad to happen.

I have just always used only the e-brake whenever possible. Cause in my eyes brake pads and rotors are cheap compared to a clutch and transmission, that's why I never downshift when coming to a stop light. Just put it in neutral and coast then use the brakes. But that is a whole different topic...

Another way to look at it would be if someone hits your car while it is parked, and it is in gear the car will not move, it will be like hitting a brick wall... but if someone hits your car and only the e-brake is on, the car will slightly move so it wont be as bad. I know this has nothing to do with you but something to think about, haha.

I'm the same way about stop lights, but then I sometimes get caught off-guard with a sudden green light and have to hurriedly get back into gear XD

Interesting point about the gear when you get hit, I always reasoned I want to have the brick wall so the car doesn't go driving away if it gets hit hard...dunno.

GT Motoring · 12-15-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

I'm the same way about stop lights, but then I sometimes get caught off-guard with a sudden green light and have to hurriedly get back into gear XD

Interesting point about the gear when you get hit, I always reasoned I want to have the brick wall so the car doesn't go driving away if it gets hit hard...dunno.

Getting back in gear is the fun part

haha!

And it could go either way with the accident. If the car gets hit then goes flying into someone else and they get hurt.

Or if the driver in the car that hit you dies because your car was in gear and the impact was so great, when it could have been softer if your car would have moved a little. I don't know where I am going with this.. haha.

kannibul · 12-15-2009, 12:00 PM

So, everyone agrees the parking brake/e-brake sucks.

How to fix? I doubt even if every Z owner complained, Nissan wouldn't change how the system operates.

John Bradley · 12-15-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

So, everyone agrees the parking brake/e-brake sucks.

How to fix? I doubt even if every Z owner complained, Nissan wouldn't change how the system operates.

Nope... mine is 2010 and it works great, stops the car from 20 mph no problem, even have way engaged it keep mine from rolling.. not sure if they made a change from the 09 model, mines a 2010 ??

12-15-2009, 11:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Chupacabra Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Weston, Florida Posts: 477 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z s M6 Rep Power: 202	The strain placed on the spurs.... are neglectful. I have been leaving cars in gears for a good percentage of a quarter of a century... never had a problem. but it now intrigues me to find out how much strain the spurs are receiving. __________________ Where are my aluminum pedals?

12-15-2009, 11:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 40 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3408	I'm just gonna park it the way I always have then. I'm amused to know how many of us park a certain way, e-brake only, e-brake + gear, gear only. Gear only = ??? in my mind, but maybe it works lol __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

12-15-2009, 11:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
GT Motoring Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 489 Drives: R35 Rep Power: 841	Yeah if you use your ebrake, then put it in gear after already putting the e-brake up there would be no strain on the trans unless you are on a HUGE hill and the e-brake is then doing nothing. I doubt even then it will cause anything bad to happen. I have just always used only the e-brake whenever possible. Cause in my eyes brake pads and rotors are cheap compared to a clutch and transmission, that's why I never downshift when coming to a stop light. Just put it in neutral and coast then use the brakes. But that is a whole different topic... Another way to look at it would be if someone hits your car while it is parked, and it is in gear the car will not move, it will be like hitting a brick wall... but if someone hits your car and only the e-brake is on, the car will slightly move so it wont be as bad. I know this has nothing to do with you but something to think about, haha. __________________ http://www.gtmotoring.com/images/for...r-nagtroc1.gif Zele Authorized USA Dealer Amuse Authorized Distributor 370Z Purchasing Special through GT Motoring www.gtmotoring.com

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kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 269	So, everyone agrees the parking brake/e-brake sucks. How to fix? I doubt even if every Z owner complained, Nissan wouldn't change how the system operates.