Word of Caution

LunaZ

I can accept or agree with everything you're saying, except at the end where you mention "VDC couldn't correct it..." He had it turned off.

This thread was linked back to in another thread about VDC, and after reading everyone trashing the OP (yeah, he made a mistake... haven't we all?), I felt compelled to add my two cents. Is that against the rules?

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Duncanz

Unknown_370 your pretty close to the facts in your response to LunaZ. My underestimate and lack of knowledge of the 370z did have a large factor in my accident, however the number of posts has nothing to do with my ability or commitment to my enthusiasm for Motorsports. Prior to and after the accident I have had several HPDE sessions at BMW and you are correct that the differences in these cars and the Z are significant.

The comment about the "drive a ford and live forever" is just a joke from a long time ago and I thought some of the old school members might catch it. I first saw the comment "Speed kills, drive a Ford and live forever" implying that fords were slow, this was on the rear of '70 Chevelle. So the old Chevy vs Fords.

Now an update: yes the z was totaled, so I waited for the 09s to come down on price at the dealer and in March purchased a new 370z Sports Package and went with the 7at this time. And I'm still engaging the forum periodically and appreciate all the info that this forum has and is pulling together. I am also keeping VDC on and continue to learn the dynamics of the Z.

Oh yeah the tree survived!

UNKNOWN_370

Ok... don't take the amount of posts thing wrong. All I was saying is luna Z can't judge your knowledge based on a few terminologies. Not saying you aren't knowledgeable. If u read my post again, you will see that's not what I'm saying. What I was saying is what you already stated. You underestimated the Z and my assumption based on your comment is that you came from a whole other type of car.
I'm most definately not questioning your love for motorsports and different types of vehicles. Also I'm not saying that you don't know how to drive. I'm just sayting you applied too much power in your turn and reason is, you still did not understand the full potential of your vehicle.
I don't recall the old ford ads so I thought you meant you felt safer in a ford. Lol, judging by your post is about an accident you had, that was my interpretation.

UNKNOWN_370

It depends on the situation... you can't say VDC could have fixed or not fixed it. If he came into the turn to fast and was trying to stabilize the car and used the proper method to stabilize the car. VDC will kick in and he will succeed in what began as a possible fail of a turn. Now if the driver came into a turn to fast and his instinct went against the general laws of physics that would allow him to correct his mistake. The vdc couldn't correct his lack of skill, therefore the accident will happen regardless.
Vdc is an aid to a skilled driver that may miscalculate a move but can and will recovery from a sudden mistake. The vdc will multiply the evasive maneuver and put the driver back on track quicker than he can do on his own. But when that driver didn't use proper procedure or instinct. He will fail, because VDC is no miracle software. Just like most components of a car. The car can only aid in prevention. VDC can't prevent all on its own.

PS. No one is saying its against the rules. But your analysis of the whole situation is as narrow as the narrowminded members you criticise. And for a so called racer I expected you to post with a more objective view. I do see your frustration though. The OP is being honest and he should be commented with a little more respect. Respect is something that seems to fall short here at times.

LunaZ

I said he made a mistake. How is that not being objective?
"So called racer." Now who's throwing stones?
Okay, listen... you're right. I know that's you need to hear, and you can't tell me it's not, because you've written practically written a novel to make sure I know it's clear that you're right.
God, I love philosophizing tough guys on the internet.
Good day!

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WarmAndSCSI

Just going to throw this out there... given everything the OP disclosed about his driving experience previously in the thread, your reply was spot-on. Not out of line at all.

And it doesn't matter that you bumped the thread after however many months. Who cares? If anything, it gave the OP the chance to update us on his replacement Z.

UNKNOWN seems to have just wanted to pick a fight. It was his posts, not yours, that implied he had not read the entire contents of this thread already.

This is over. LunaZ wins.

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UNKNOWN_370

Sorry I am coming across like I was picking a fight. Its not that. I guess my main issue was one comment.. the fact that the op used track related terminology, that suddenly made him an expert that realized his mistake. This is where I felt objectivity was flawed. For anyone to base someones driving experience through one post would be a flawed way to judge someone whether positive or negative
I do agree with most of luna Z's statement but I also disagree with him but I just felt his post went to the left at certain points. Certain issues in the topic are overstated and some understated. That's where hostility reigns in most of these threads. I would not pick a fight and luna Z I apologize if u think I'm picking. I upset u. Sorry. Crucifying someone is not my style. Its not like I'm putting up stupid pics and calling luna names. I'm not into that.

As far as this being an old post goes. I just found it strange that someone would pull this particular post 7 months after the fact. But now I understand it was part of an attached VDC post. Which I must say is another overstated issue on the forum IMHO. But hey,,, knock yourselves out.

No hard feelings. Ill shut up now.