SPOHN'S Journal II Track Demon Reborn

daisuke149 · 01-01-2013, 08:43 PM

Ill prolly give Carbotech a call regardless and have an extra set waiting.

Red__Zed · 01-01-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

Ill prolly give Carbotech a call regardless and have an extra set waiting.

not a bad call. Definitely no need to swap rears though.

The Mustang pads are a slight tweak on the DS2500 compound, which is pretty aggressive.

Ferodo Racing

sig11 · 01-01-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I'm doing Hooked on Driving event at Road Atlanta Feb 15th

I'm jealous. I would love to hit Road Atlanta again. Such a fast fun track...

You guys should come up to a Mid-Ohio event sometime.

SPOHN · 01-02-2013, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sig11

I'm jealous. I would love to hit Road Atlanta again. Such a fast fun track...

You guys should come up to a Mid-Ohio event sometime.

I might do that. I use my brothers truck to tow anyways, thats free gas.

XwChriswX · 01-02-2013, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

It will do fine. Don't worry. Brake fluid and pads. OH, red key too.

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Originally Posted by Mike

probably will be fine on stock pads and fluid. I've seen others at the track with no mods on new mustangs.

How about the Posi-Quiets that you get as "OEM Replacement" pads from the Z1 upgrades? As far as normal driving is concerned they are great... Just wondering about there track vitality? I was considering getting a set of XP8's for track days/events..

SPOHN · 01-02-2013, 06:16 AM

If your going to track I swear by Carbotechs. Just swap them out. Last time I was at the track I saw a brand new Mustang ( not even a tag on it yet) slam into a newer BMW 5 series in the chicane due to brake failure. Course that's a high speed entry.

XwChriswX · 01-02-2013, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

If your going to track I swear by Carbotechs. Just swap them out. Last time I was at the track I saw a brand new Mustang ( not even a tag on it yet) slam into a newer BMW 5 series in the chicane due to brake failure. Course that's a high speed entry.

Yeah, I don't want that to be me.

I'd rather have pads that are overly suited for my abilities that I can grow into instead of the "stock" pads that have a limit.

Ballpark cost for a set of XP8 F/R's?

Also running ATE Super Blue fluid, decent for track or swap out for the Motul RB600?

Mike · 01-02-2013, 08:18 AM

Posi Quiets should go nowhere near the track, especially with our hot *** brakes.

XwChriswX · 01-02-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Posi Quiets should go nowhere near the track, especially with our hot *** brakes.

I was 99% sure about this, but wanted the final word from you guys who do it regularly.

Sh0velMan · 01-02-2013, 08:34 AM

Something sintered. Carbotech, CL, Ferodo, etc.

the CL RC6's are quite hoss, but it's probably easier and cheaper to get the XP8's/10s.

I'd read that most folks like 10 on front and 8 on rear for our car.

If you can ignore the noise and dust, you could just run them full time. The RC6's wear quite slowly in my experience and you learn to block out the noise pretty quickly in return for the amazing braking performance.

Dustin@Z1 · 01-02-2013, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I was 99% sure about this, but wanted the final word from you guys who do it regularly.

Posi quiets are a NO NO on the track. Unless A) you have a few extra pair of clean shorts, B) like changing hot brake pads, or C) drive like Grandma.

I run Carbotech's on my track Z. As does our Shop G35, 370Z and the two of our employees who have 300zx's (one with a 370Z Sport Brake conversion and the other with Rotora's).

So thats +5 for Carbotechs. LOL.

SPOHN · 01-02-2013, 08:49 AM

I currently run XP 10F/8R. The 10's bite great but can overload the tires but is controllable pending what tires you run. If I had slicks I'd probably just go with 12's F. But I'll most likely stick to street tires in which I might just start running XP 8's all time. I'm still testing the waters. Taking all this weight off helps.

My XP's cost more cause I have to custom order for my AP BBK. But the rears last alot longer on. So that's a plus.

Red__Zed · 01-02-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Yeah, I don't want that to be me.

I'd rather have pads that are overly suited for my abilities that I can grow into instead of the "stock" pads that have a limit.

Ballpark cost for a set of XP8 F/R's?

Also running ATE Super Blue fluid, decent for track or swap out for the Motul RB600?

Carbotech Brake Pads 370Z / G37 Akebono Sport Front

XwChriswX · 01-02-2013, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1

Posi quiets are a NO NO on the track. Unless A) you have a few extra pair of clean shorts, B) like changing hot brake pads, or C) drive like Grandma.

I run Carbotech's on my track Z. As does our Shop G35, 370Z and the two of our employees who have 300zx's (one with a 370Z Sport Brake conversion and the other with Rotora's).

So thats +5 for Carbotechs. LOL.

Which is what I was looking for from you guys, thanks!

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Carbotech Brake Pads 370Z / G37 Akebono Sport Front

Thanks!

wstar · 01-02-2013, 02:45 PM

XP10F + XP8R is the way to go for the Carbotechs, at least on the stock Sport setup. 8/8 gives too much ice mode, whereas 10/8 feels pretty good. They've very grabby so it'll take a little getting used to. FWIW I've switched from Carbotech to CL RC6/RC5+. The Carbotechs worked fine on the track on my good weekends, I just switched as part of debugging my long-term rotor destruction problems. First time I'll finally get to track-test the CL setup will now be Jan 26/27, but so far in non-track testing they've been pretty awesome.

01-02-2013, 06:16 AM	#201 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	If your going to track I swear by Carbotechs. Just swap them out. Last time I was at the track I saw a brand new Mustang ( not even a tag on it yet) slam into a newer BMW 5 series in the chicane due to brake failure. Course that's a high speed entry. __________________

01-02-2013, 08:18 AM	#203 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	Posi Quiets should go nowhere near the track, especially with our hot *** brakes. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

01-02-2013, 08:34 AM	#205 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	Something sintered. Carbotech, CL, Ferodo, etc. the CL RC6's are quite hoss, but it's probably easier and cheaper to get the XP8's/10s. I'd read that most folks like 10 on front and 8 on rear for our car. If you can ignore the noise and dust, you could just run them full time. The RC6's wear quite slowly in my experience and you learn to block out the noise pretty quickly in return for the amazing braking performance. __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

01-02-2013, 08:49 AM	#207 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I currently run XP 10F/8R. The 10's bite great but can overload the tires but is controllable pending what tires you run. If I had slicks I'd probably just go with 12's F. But I'll most likely stick to street tires in which I might just start running XP 8's all time. I'm still testing the waters. Taking all this weight off helps. My XP's cost more cause I have to custom order for my AP BBK. But the rears last alot longer on. So that's a plus. __________________

01-02-2013, 02:45 PM	#210 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	XP10F + XP8R is the way to go for the Carbotechs, at least on the stock Sport setup. 8/8 gives too much ice mode, whereas 10/8 feels pretty good. They've very grabby so it'll take a little getting used to. FWIW I've switched from Carbotech to CL RC6/RC5+. The Carbotechs worked fine on the track on my good weekends, I just switched as part of debugging my long-term rotor destruction problems. First time I'll finally get to track-test the CL setup will now be Jan 26/27, but so far in non-track testing they've been pretty awesome. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

01-01-2013, 08:43 PM	#196 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	Ill prolly give Carbotech a call regardless and have an extra set waiting.

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