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Old 07-13-2013, 10:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Finished. No issues.

good job !

I'm not there yet as I still need my heater core for another year ;/
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I'm scared to death of the wiring but I think that's the next step for me and my Z33 race car. :P
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I'm scared to death of the wiring but I think that's the next step for me and my Z33 race car. :P
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Was going back and reviewing old data and logs and whatnot. It's really crazy to compare back to the last weekend before the coilover switch. Don't get me wrong, the coilovers feel awesome and are a big improvement, but driving this setup without the requisite front camber adjustment has really hurt in the overall. It just destroys the outside edges of front tires and the front doesn't grip like it should, forcing other setup changes and driving habits, etc. I really do have to fix that before my next time out. If SPL's arms aren't ready, I'll buy cheap ones and mod them to hold their settings or whatever.

For comparison to the recent video a few posts up, this video was from just before the coilovers went on, and it was my first weekend at this track, whereas the one above is one I'm very familiar with now. When I watch this video I see a much better version of my driving than the more recent runs, even though I've really picked up some raw skill in the interim. The car was just much more natural and easy to feel through things when I could use all the front tire:

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Corvette = slow you down in the infield then vroooooom!

Seems to be a trend in our sport

As I type, finally let's you by...

Your driving has improved a lot since your first vid. Getting set up well before, accelerating sooner out of turns, etc
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I'm getting there, bit by bit. At this point I generally know what my mistakes are and what things are supposed to feel like and look like, it's just a matter of getting it done more consistently and building up the seat-time experience (and confidence in the case of some corners with scary setups) to do so.

With Driver's Edge (the group I usually run with) they do four rungroups: Green, Blue, Yellow, Red. There's a half-promotion during blue to "Blue Solo" where you run alternating sessions solo/instructor, and then Yellow starts out that way and progresses to Yellow Solo where you just run all day by yourself (although it's not uncommon to pick up a random instructor ride-along to work on stuff for a session). Passing in corners doesn't start until Red, but they give us a little more leeway on starting our straight-passes early and ending them late in Yellow. In practice it seems more like "final apex to first apex"

I've just made the transition over this summer from being a solid top car in Blue (e.g. that video with the Corvette pass above where I'm kinda owning the field) to moving into Yellow where I'm definitely down in the lower 1/3 of the field on skills and speed. I'm hoping that my car setup more-or-less stabilizes at a good point between now and the end of the year, and then I'm probably looking at another year or two of events on that relatively-stable setup to get to where I really feel like I can hang in the top-level run group and start trying to run with them. We'll see how those predictions pan out
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So back on the teardown stuff: of course I should have anticipated that UpRev Pro-tuners apparently aren't allowed to do NATS-disable on a rom file remotely. I do want to kill the related wiring that I can before the car moves again, though. Has anyone run with just the Fobgina still active and the rest of the fob sensors (e.g. the ones behind the door, passenger under dash, center console, trunk area, etc) all removed? Can you still open/start the car? Is it impossible to unlock the trunk? I could leave just the Fobgina for now and that would be pretty easy to finish removing later after it's been driven somewhere for NATS disable.
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I just run the keyfob in the fobgina only. All sensors and wiring are gone. Along with the antenna that runs it all under the dash.

The Nats will be deleted upon my next tune.
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Ok, sounds like a plan then. Thanks
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Send a couple ROM files you want with NATS disabled and any Uprev tuner would do it for you free of charge (if you ask nicely I think). I had to get it disabled when that unit died on me for some reason. Uprev would even do it for you.
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I did get NATS disabled remotely by someone. It didn't do all the magic I hoped it would do, but I guess it's still nice to have one less thing that can get screwed up on the car. I still have the fobgina, and it still appears to be necessary to put the key in there to turn on the ignition and start the engine with the stock button. Who knows if maybe *anyone*'s key does that now, though.

Re: basic ignition, it sounds like you *could* in theory get rid of the keyfob sensor at that point, but only if you did some custom wiring to your own on/start buttons and ditched the stock one (because the BCM controls the engine start button, and NATS disable is just the ECU - the BCM still cares about they keyfob if you wanna operate that switch...).

I was also hoping it would allow me to unplug and remove the steering lock unit (which is currently disabled with the fuse-pull hack anyways), but it doesn't do that either. If I unplug the steering lock unit I get a little Key icon warning light on the gauges and it refuses to turn on the ignition.

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Also, I had my first major screwup with the unwiring of the car. When I was removing a bunch of little modules from under the dash (e.g. fob sensors, TPMS receiver), I removed one too many little black boxes. I didn't realize until a couple of days later during a test-drive what went wrong. One of those little black boxes under the passenger dash is the power steering controller I still have tails on the box itself and on the various places it was wired to, but I'll have to run new lengths of wire to hook it back up. Could've been much worse I guess, and everything else has gone pretty smooth so far. Still have days of work ahead of me to get the harness stuff all wrapped back up nicely.
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Re: basic ignition, it sounds like you *could* in theory get rid of the keyfob sensor at that point, but only if you did some custom wiring to your own on/start buttons and ditched the stock one (because the BCM controls the engine start button, and NATS disable is just the ECU - the BCM still cares about they keyfob if you wanna operate that switch...).
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Soo after a couple hours in the garage, I managed to start the car without the need of the key at all..

I managed to give power to some auxiliary equipment like the rpm/speedo cluster. I jacked the car to see if the speedometer work. It did !. Im sure the rpm would work to but I had to remove the vhr ecu because it drained .y battery .. I must install a switch for this which will be done this weekend !

So anyway yes some auxiliary has power . The low/high bean work but not the flasher.
My center console does lid up but no power to the radio/nav yet.

All this require some by pass wire ..this setup needs a minimun of 4 wires . And the NATS disabled ofcourse.

Im gonna post a video later on about how it look like right now

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