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NIZMOZ · 07-31-2009, 11:39 AM

^^ Yea I recall on Radarguys forum that they said do not get that stuff on your paint. Guess you proved what they meant by that.

wstar · 07-31-2009, 11:46 AM

Yeah I was expecting something thicker, like actual paint. I should have realized the problem when I saw how thin and watery this stuff is. The spots aren't big though, I imagine a good paint repair guy can fix them up pretty easily.

semtex · 07-31-2009, 12:09 PM

Dude, that sucks. Sorry.

wstar · 07-31-2009, 12:35 PM

Well, **** happens, it's all a learning experience

Mostly it's just 4-5 little spots like these first two pics (you can see where I rubbed through the clear coat on one of these trying a method of removal):

And this is the only really bad spot, in front of the passenger headlight, where I went ahead and tried harder and went through paint in a tiny spot without doing any good:

theDreamer · 07-31-2009, 12:41 PM

Wow, that really sucks man, I guess it is a live and learn situation. I hope you can get it fixed and paint matched.

CrownR426 · 07-31-2009, 01:08 PM

Never do something unless your confident!
Especially on a nice car like that...
Hope you learned your lesson!

wstar · 07-31-2009, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426

Never do something unless your confident!
Especially on a nice car like that...
Hope you learned your lesson!

Haha

In case you haven't noticed by Page 17, my motto in life is do everything anyways even if you're not confident, and learn from it. That's how my first oil change went years ago, and that's how the IR paint went today. Actually that's how I got my first Unix job too when I was 18. Lied on the interview about age/experience, winged it, figured it out pretty well within the first few months.

So yeah, I learned my lesson, which is don't trust masking tape, not to avoid doing things I'm not confident about

NIZMOZ · 07-31-2009, 02:38 PM

Wstar, that may not have went through the clear. It might just need a buff. I would take it to someone that knows how to buff paint on cars, and have them buff your bumper. I bet that would come out.

wstar · 07-31-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Wstar, that may not have went through the clear. It might just need a buff. I would take it to someone that knows how to buff paint on cars, and have them buff your bumper. I bet that would come out.

I'm pretty sure it's through the clear, and down inside the paint itself. I started out with a little alcohol on a paper tower and that did very little good (did remove a little at the surface though). Then I moved up to a microfiber cleaning rag, and then a toothbrush, and then finally a slighty-rough (but fabric-based) scrubbing pad. Basically the purple never goes away until the paint goes away. I could see the clearcoat gone first (paint gets dull in that spot), and then the actual paint, and then you see dark bumper material underneath, but it was always purple until I got to the bumper plastic.

kdoske · 07-31-2009, 03:31 PM

That sucks about the paint man.

NIZMOZ · 07-31-2009, 04:54 PM

Yea then you did go all the way through. Might have a guy see about the rest of them though.

Some dealers, like Infiniti, Audi and so on (mostly luxury ones) have a guy that comes out and touches up paint on cars while on the car and does a really good job usually too. I had to get my rear bumper on my G35 fixed and he did this and you couldn't tell. Might be worth looking into.

wstar · 08-12-2009, 09:53 PM

Changed the oil again today at 9150 (2150 oil change interval), since Blackstone recommended keeping it down to 2K for now (I had to wait on parts to show up, hence the 150 over).

I also swapped in the Mocal 180 degree thermostatic sandwich plate. I didn't even end up using some of the adapters I thought I would. I attached the Mocal-recommended -8AN to 1/2" BSP Male:Male unions to the sandwich plate, and then screwed the -8AN 45 degree swivel ends of the hoses from the Stillen kit straight onto those. It was a little bit of a stretch to get the hoses to cover the extra 1.5" or so, but I had slack elsewhere in the hose routing so it fit fine once I shifted them around a little.

Oil change was 3 cans of 300V (so 6L, roughly 6.3qts) and came out just about perfect on the oil level afterward - but then again compared to a regular oil and filter change, I lost a little bit extra from the sandwich plate swap (the plate itself and the lines both drained a bit when disconnected, but I didn't intentionally try to flush anything out of the cooler/lines). On the other hand, I did this oil change on ramps instead of level, so I may have left extra in the bottom of the pan too

So I suspect when and if I ever have one of those "regular" oil+filter changes that doesn't involve other work, it will probably come out somewhere close to exactly 3 cans of 300V, we'll see.

I also switched to K&N's HP-1010 oil filter this time around. It's identical to the HP-1008 in every way, but longer, so you get more filter surface area out of it I would hope. Fits fine, even on top of a thermo sandwich plate, with plenty of headroom around it.

I've found a small leak along my new oil pan gasket (from when I put the spacer on). Either I didn't get the Ultra Grey on perfect, or didn't torque it perfectly, or perhaps I even slightly warped the pan's mating surface during removal, who knows. In either case the leak is so tiny you'd hardly notice it. Made an oil stain on the plastic undercover, and the oil level dropped about half the range of the L:H on the dipstick during 2150 miles.

So probably next oil change, given the paint stripping incident with the pan anyways, I'll just order a new pan to be extra sure and swap that on with some fresh Ultra Grey and give it another go. The spacer should stay in place anyways with its own Ultra Grey, so it will be much easier this time around than trying to get them both up there perfectly at the same time.

Also on the Veil Paint mishap around the headlights, I've decided to postpone fixing it even though I hate looking at it. I've got more projects coming up in the bumper area anyways (which could lead to more damage which might as well all be fixed at once), and there's always a chance I'll end up falling in love with some (aero/cooling-functional) aftermarket bumper replacement for that matter too. So I figure I'll wait it out a little before I call a paint guy.

travisjb · 08-12-2009, 10:08 PM

good progress, good update... re bumper cover, i'm leaning towards eventually the zele with a separate splitter (APR maybe)... very porsche-esque

Brazilbro · 08-14-2009, 02:54 AM

Thats a real sh*ty day.. At least the steak was good.. I love outback! I had a Great day. I went to the casino to play poker which is very rare but had some family in town and wanted to check it out. So Im at the table that it had a bad beat which means that the hand went heads up to the end with 2 royal flush hands at the end.. the pot was at 72k-ish the loser got the most money like 35k the winner got like 15k and eveyone else got 3k. I was just sitting theere.. so got the 3K! I never win anything.. to bad i wasnt the loser.

tonmed123 · 08-14-2009, 03:38 AM

Dude sorry to hear that!

07-31-2009, 11:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	^^ Yea I recall on Radarguys forum that they said do not get that stuff on your paint. Guess you proved what they meant by that. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

07-31-2009, 11:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	Yeah I was expecting something thicker, like actual paint. I should have realized the problem when I saw how thin and watery this stuff is. The spots aren't big though, I imagine a good paint repair guy can fix them up pretty easily. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

07-31-2009, 12:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Dude, that sucks. Sorry. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

07-31-2009, 12:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	Well, **** happens, it's all a learning experience Mostly it's just 4-5 little spots like these first two pics (you can see where I rubbed through the clear coat on one of these trying a method of removal): And this is the only really bad spot, in front of the passenger headlight, where I went ahead and tried harder and went through paint in a tiny spot without doing any good: __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

07-31-2009, 12:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	Wow, that really sucks man, I guess it is a live and learn situation. I hope you can get it fixed and paint matched. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

07-31-2009, 01:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	Never do something unless your confident! Especially on a nice car like that... Hope you learned your lesson! __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

07-31-2009, 02:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	Wstar, that may not have went through the clear. It might just need a buff. I would take it to someone that knows how to buff paint on cars, and have them buff your bumper. I bet that would come out. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

07-31-2009, 03:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
kdoske Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 541 Drives: 800whp Unicorn FI Z Rep Power: 18	That sucks about the paint man.

07-31-2009, 04:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	Yea then you did go all the way through. Might have a guy see about the rest of them though. Some dealers, like Infiniti, Audi and so on (mostly luxury ones) have a guy that comes out and touches up paint on cars while on the car and does a really good job usually too. I had to get my rear bumper on my G35 fixed and he did this and you couldn't tell. Might be worth looking into. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

08-12-2009, 09:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	Changed the oil again today at 9150 (2150 oil change interval), since Blackstone recommended keeping it down to 2K for now (I had to wait on parts to show up, hence the 150 over). I also swapped in the Mocal 180 degree thermostatic sandwich plate. I didn't even end up using some of the adapters I thought I would. I attached the Mocal-recommended -8AN to 1/2" BSP Male:Male unions to the sandwich plate, and then screwed the -8AN 45 degree swivel ends of the hoses from the Stillen kit straight onto those. It was a little bit of a stretch to get the hoses to cover the extra 1.5" or so, but I had slack elsewhere in the hose routing so it fit fine once I shifted them around a little. Oil change was 3 cans of 300V (so 6L, roughly 6.3qts) and came out just about perfect on the oil level afterward - but then again compared to a regular oil and filter change, I lost a little bit extra from the sandwich plate swap (the plate itself and the lines both drained a bit when disconnected, but I didn't intentionally try to flush anything out of the cooler/lines). On the other hand, I did this oil change on ramps instead of level, so I may have left extra in the bottom of the pan too So I suspect when and if I ever have one of those "regular" oil+filter changes that doesn't involve other work, it will probably come out somewhere close to exactly 3 cans of 300V, we'll see. I also switched to K&N's HP-1010 oil filter this time around. It's identical to the HP-1008 in every way, but longer, so you get more filter surface area out of it I would hope. Fits fine, even on top of a thermo sandwich plate, with plenty of headroom around it. I've found a small leak along my new oil pan gasket (from when I put the spacer on). Either I didn't get the Ultra Grey on perfect, or didn't torque it perfectly, or perhaps I even slightly warped the pan's mating surface during removal, who knows. In either case the leak is so tiny you'd hardly notice it. Made an oil stain on the plastic undercover, and the oil level dropped about half the range of the L:H on the dipstick during 2150 miles. So probably next oil change, given the paint stripping incident with the pan anyways, I'll just order a new pan to be extra sure and swap that on with some fresh Ultra Grey and give it another go. The spacer should stay in place anyways with its own Ultra Grey, so it will be much easier this time around than trying to get them both up there perfectly at the same time. Also on the Veil Paint mishap around the headlights, I've decided to postpone fixing it even though I hate looking at it. I've got more projects coming up in the bumper area anyways (which could lead to more damage which might as well all be fixed at once), and there's always a chance I'll end up falling in love with some (aero/cooling-functional) aftermarket bumper replacement for that matter too. So I figure I'll wait it out a little before I call a paint guy. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details Last edited by wstar; 08-12-2009 at 09:59 PM.

08-12-2009, 10:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	good progress, good update... re bumper cover, i'm leaning towards eventually the zele with a separate splitter (APR maybe)... very porsche-esque __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

08-14-2009, 02:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 849	Thats a real sh*ty day.. At least the steak was good.. I love outback! I had a Great day. I went to the casino to play poker which is very rare but had some family in town and wanted to check it out. So Im at the table that it had a bad beat which means that the hand went heads up to the end with 2 royal flush hands at the end.. the pot was at 72k-ish the loser got the most money like 35k the winner got like 15k and eveyone else got 3k. I was just sitting theere.. so got the 3K! I never win anything.. to bad i wasnt the loser.

08-14-2009, 03:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
tonmed123 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston,Texas Posts: 223 Drives: 09 370Z Red M6 Rep Power: 268	Dude sorry to hear that! __________________ 09,Solid Red,MT,Tour/Sport,Nav,3M Clear bra,35% Ceramic tint,Stillen sways,F.I. (HFC's,18 RES's,CBE), SpawnCFB pillars; Injen BLK CAI

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