Next Generation Gaming Systems

4r3s

To be fair the title of the thread say "Next Gen Gaming Systems" not "Next Gen Gaming Consoles" so I felt that PCs where viable. And to continue being fair going PC and playing games typically means going with microsoft as well but at least there is starting to be some support on the other OS. And I'm done being off topic.

If I buy a console I'll have to wait for more information. Microsoft doesn't exactly have that great of a track record with their hardware and I still have a sour taste in my mouth from when Sony took away the boot to another OS option. I would definitely buy the PS4 if I had no history or preconceived notions about either company and based my choice off just the consoles themselves.

Mr&Mrs

Fair enough in my defense though I do not consider a PC a gaming system because they do so much more. Lets face it, you can build one just for gaming but they are multi taskers and we all use them for more than gaming. Then again the consoles are now trying to do to much of thie "multi tasking" and frankly it pisses me off.

I feel like im being spammed with ads every time I turn on one of my systems and see all the garbage pop up, facebook, twitter, netflix, hulu, etc. Everything I own is preloaded with that junk! I want an online gaming system and thats it!!!!! Man where did that come from....lol

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Tazicon

I am sure I will stick with Playstation just because I have a loyalty to Them. I still have my Playstation, my PS 2 as well as my PS3.

ElVee

I voted for xbox one for now.

My background is of Nintendo in the early days, then sharing time with PC gaming, skipping the Wii, loving xbox360, and passing on the ps3. I passed on the ps3 because it gathered dust in all my friends' places whereas the xbox360 got used. I do consider myself an off-and-on-again core gamer, if you use those terms.

I'll give the PS4 consideration, but at the end of the day, I likely only have time and interest enough to give to one console, not two. I'll probably simply flow to where the most core gamers flow to.

The PS3 doesn't do it because it was difficult/expensive to develop for, so it never really had quite the library for its first 3/4 of life that the xbox360 had and lacked good online support. The PS4 needs to change that and start out strong in North America. Sony lost money on the PS3. It's been a huge uphill battle for them, and not one they win in North America. They trounce the xbox360 though in other markets, particularly Asia. It'll be interesting. Clearly having the best specs is not the key; the Wii outsold everyone (despite being a borderline failure to gamers) and had the worst specs. The PS3 has always been ahead on a purely device technical level (minus the Move/Kinect comparo), but if you can't court the core gamers and have a quality library with key system features that match or beat the competition, you will still struggle. The Wii got by because it courted a different market, but it's not a sustainable market unlike the core gamer market.

The good thing in all of this is that 3 platforms (plus PC and Mobile/Handhelds) went into this last generation and 3 platforms survived and are emerging for the next round. Competition is good.

xxAGAVExx

I currently have both (360/PS3), but I lean towards Xbox because of their games, namely Halo. If PS4 comes out with with some awesome new games, then I would probably get it too. With both systems being as good as they are, to me it just comes down to the quality of their games.

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SmokeEater27

Im a bit undecided when it comes to the new systems. Ive owned both a 360 and PS3 and theres the give and takes with both. With the new PS4 and Xbox one I feel its the same way again. I personally feel Microsoft has always had better servers and for the most part better exclusive game titles. Where as gaming online with the PS3 has been both great and horrible and they too have some good exclusive titles but thats my own experiences and opinion of course. I guess the give and take is that ones free and ones paid for as far online gaming services go. So go figure where more server up keep is going to go towards. With the new xbox one Im not too big on their second hand games tactics from what Ive seen and read. I think alot of people share games or sell games to buddies and for them to pretty much crush that market really sucks. I did read that Microsoft is suppose to being doing a free game a month for "Gold" memberships not sure how true it is. Either way Im looking forward to trying both systems and seeing how they rank against eachother but i personally think the PS4 will stay as the focal system with consumers and the xbox one might find itself posted alot on Craigslist. just my

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Mr&Mrs

Again for people that are not reading all the posts the PS4 will require a PSPlus membership to play games online. It is no longer free.

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SmokeEater27

ok good to know because I hadnt read that yet, hopefully this means a better online experience and free map upgrades for future games like xbox owners.

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SS_Firehawk

I'll just upgrade my GPU for $500 instead. Don't have to worry about backwards compatibility, lack of launch games, subscriptions to play on the internets, a graphics ceiling, and I can do 3 monitors. I'd rather wait for the dust to settle. I bought a Wii back in 2009, it's not used very often. I used to be a big console gamer, but after replacing six PS2's, no thanks. I've never had a pc part fail unless I did something stupid. My brother replaced two Xbox 360's, I don't have much faith in the durability of consoles anymore. Why is it all the Nintendo needs is someone's hot @ss breath blowing on it? Super Nintendo still works, N64 still works, Gamecube still works. Dreamcast still works. If I would choose only one? PS4 would take my money. $500 and DRM is rough. Not only that but their cloud computing to increase performance does sound like a great idea, it forces the console to always be online for games that deem it necessary. Better have a 100+mb connection because now you'll hear family members bjtch because your F'n Xbox is stealing all the bandwidth to play your game.

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Mr&Mrs

When your gaming do you want to share any bandwidth? I dont!

Joking aside the new routers out there can make even a 10mb connection go a long way. With the help of lag compensation of console gaming you do not need crazy speeds to play at the same level of someone with a screaming fast connection.

It sucks to have that fast connection though and get owned by lag compensation, but it allows everyone no matter the budget to enjoy the games.

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jofro6

I've already got 2 Xbox Ones on preorder for day one release. I am not loyal to either company as ive had both x boxes and ps1 and ps2. Ive never owned a ps3 because there were no games i felt i had to have for it, and everyone i knew were buying 360 versions of the online games due to multiplayer reliability. I also preordered these xboxes before the ps4 release conference at E3, just so i was guaranteed a xbox system. If i decide to not want it before release i will just sell them or return them unopened to the store for my refund. There is no down side to preordering. Now after the PS4 conference, it looks like they can be rocking a better exclusive lineup, but who knows, there is still 5 months till release time and what both have up their last minute sleeves we can only guess. As for the online deal with xbox, this does not bother me as bandwidth is not an issue in my house and could care less if it has to connect everyday. But I do understand the people in more undeveloped areas bitching about it. In the end though, its looking like I will be purchasing both systems prior to christmas time lol Neither will fail and fall on its face, no matter what people are thinking due to the restrictions. These are now pretty much the last 2 systems left (Wi U basicly being a flop), and the odds of one dominating the other so much that it becomes a 1 system community for gamers is slim to none in my opinion.

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PS4's Price And Policies Humiliate Microsoft's Xbox One At E3 - Forbes

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ElVee

As I catch up on news, I see now why I see this topic popping up: E3! Microsoft isn't making this easy for themselves and is making it easy for Sony to get a standing ovation. $100 more for the console is the biggest reason PS3 adoption was slow.

I couldn't care less about used game sales. It's a market that simply will not last over time as media becomes more digital, just like music. Sure it's not going to completely go away and places like GameStop will be pissed, but it's hard to be absolutely upset about it.

"Always on" requirements are lame and unnecessary if you ask me, but it wouldn't affect my purchase because I'm always on anyway.

I don't care for the Kinect. I'd rather not have it and I'd rather not pay to have it. I don't want it invading my privacy and otherwise getting me up off the couch. That's really the reason for the price difference. As a core gamer, I just want a controller in my hand. As a PC gamer, I just want to sit and use a kb/mouse as a controller. Not stand up and gesture, or gesture at all.

hide187

Some of the things Im reading about kinect integration are advanced beyond the simple gesture. USAToday article Why you should keep quiet while playing 'Dead Rising 3'

As far as the privacy invasion, something in my gut tells me my cellphone or webcam are going to provide more than enough intel long before the eyes get to my Xbox. I am fairly certain noone wants to watch me Halo in my draws.

jofro6

that forbes article is fine, ive read it when it first came out yesterday. But its still all moot points. $500 price is not a lot, especially when you compare it to what ps3 cost when it first came out... I guarantee sony had 2 price points set for ps4 based on what xbox said it was launching at. Xbox one is the same price as what 360 and kinect cost for people that bought them both when they came out. The only argument is now forcing everyone to buy a connect, but i feel real strongly that kinect will be a major bonus in the forgoing years and has monstrous potential with the new specs. But if $100 price difference is really your make or break budget decision, then people have larger financial issues at hand and probably shouldnt be buying any system. Plus if you end up buying the sony camera device you are at the same price point if not more (i dont know the sony camera price, but assume it will be atleast $100)

As for the used game portion, it is still a non issue until the game company itself makes it an issue. Who knows, not a single company may enforce the used game policy for Xbox One.

Like i said in my other post, im not a platform loyalist, and im not arguing that One is better than PS4. I do like to play devils advocate though and look at how big of an issue really is the objectifications people are making about how bad a system is compared to another

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