I played that game. Arsenal SA-M7. Sold about a month later. Not my bag.
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My .02?

Do it right and SBR an M4.

Go with 300AAC, suppress it. That gives you a 0.5-1.5 MOA gun that is quieter than an M5-SD with subsonics, offers AK-47 ballistics with superior projectiles and ballistic coefficients in supersonic, and gets a very efficient powder-burn in 8.2" barrels with either flavor. Epic win with no downside.

*However*

I chose 5.56 because I like the flatter trajectory out to 300 yards and it will handle my needs just fine.

I played the 1911 game, too. Les Baer (TRS, factory Hard Chrome), Colt (80-series, my Dad owns it), Wilson Combat (Tactical Supergrade).

All of these have proven unreliable and my Dad keeps his for sentimental reasons, I sold him the Baer because he doesn't care if it jams or not and how crappy the workmanship on it is as long as it looks good on the outside and is accurate, Wilson bought the Supergrade back from me after the 3rd warranty return.

Now? I sold my Gen 3 Glock because someone at work wanted it REALLY BAD! So I made a buck. One thing I noticed is that every now and then it would eject cases right back at me, barely missing my face. FFWD about 6 months and I am looking at Gen 4's to replace it. I read on a bunch of forums that THEY do this, and what do ya know? The late 3rd gens did, too! Explains that...

So, after a few conversations with MD Roberts on the issue, I am going with an M&P 9c. If the trigger sucks after 1,000 or 2 rounds, I will just drop the APEX parts in and all will be gravy. The accuracy issues are with the full-size M&P's. Not a single issue with the compact series, and from what I hear, S&W is handling up on the full-size, now.

The civic is practical, reliable, and easy to maintain. The 1911 is more like the Testarossa of the gun-world. Looks like sex, but I wouldn't take it on a road-trip unless I had a spare car following me, and maintenance takes an artist.

I wouldn't own a 1911 again. No point to it. As a defensive weapon, there are far better choices out there that don't have a single stack mag and thumb safety. I could see it as a hobby gun.

Depending on your use, I'd recommend HK, S&W M&P, Glock, Walther. Stay away from Sig - quality too far down the scale these days. S&W, they had some issues with their earlier M&P barrels in 9mm, now fixed. Glock, has multiple issues with their Gen 4 and later Gen 3's relative to ejection. The current Gen 4s are working better, current Gen 3s still problematic. HK and Walther, especially the Walther PPQ...very highly regarded. If I were you, I'd look at the Walther PPQ.

I have an M&P 9L with a DCAEK installed and a fitted Storm Lake barrel. It's an extremely accurate and reliable handgun. My Glock 19 Gen 3 is reliable and pretty accurate, but annoying for its erratic ejection. I have a new Apex "Failure-Resistant" extractor for the Glock on order. Early reports from the beta testers are good. We'll see.

I've had my Range Officer for a couple months now and I'm already over it. :|

I'm over my G17, too. I've got some use for the 19. 26 and my Kahr see the most action.

I keep hearing about the PPQ. Do you have one? Have you handled it? How does it compare to the G19 for 4:30 IWB carry? The butt is what prints the worst/most likely on my old Gen 3 G19. How does the PPQ fare?

I don't have one, but I've shot it. That one had the best trigger out of the box of any handgun I've seen. I found it to be easy to shoot well, good grip axis so easy to keep on target, grip angle very similar to my Glock. The grip is more rounded so it feels like it fits my hand better (with small backstrap). The PPQ just feels like a better handgun, more solid, better put together. The Glock is kind of a funky conglomeration of parts, and dry firing it leaves me with the impression that it's likely to be a piece of crap. Yet...for whatever reason I shoot my G19 as well as any pistol I've ever owned. Even so, for the money, I'd skip right over the Glock in favor of the PPQ if I were to do it again. You'd have to be OK with the trigger guard mag release.

I have no idea how the PPQ might print, but the back of the butt is undercut and more rounded, and the back of the grip is farther under the rear of the slide. My buddy didn't have a holster for the PPQ, so I don't know how it would carry, but given the grip location and shape I'm guessing that the butt wouldn't stick out as far. The part of the Glock that shows the most is the lower rear of the butt. Comparing a PPQ to my G19, their overall dimensions appear to identical, but the shape and location of the grip make a big difference. I like it a lot. If it weren't for what I consider to be a decline in Glock's quality of design and reliability, I'd consider them equally functional for me. But especially given the current state of Glock, I think the PPQ is significantly superior, based on first impression with only about 200 rounds behind the PPQ.

I have little experience with IWB carry, so I can't really give any kind of informed opinion on how it might work in that role. I'd guess that the grip would sit lower to the belt line and therefore print less, but it's only a guess.



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Of course.

I am trying to make this part of the forum a regular part of the day.

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One is waffen ampted the other is post war but both are Zellamellis.

The original bakelite grips are off as they warp on the gun.

The super grade 1911's that shoot 2" groups @50+ yards are not the WWII looser tolerance never jam type.

When I carried a 1911 daily I had a regular no frills version. I have numerous model 70 Gold cups, had two Les Baer's, a Wilson, and an Ed Brown. They are like your AR, Ferraris in a clean environment. Not so great in a dirty gritty environment like the M1A or M14.

I like Glock but get a bigger bullet. A .45 comes pre expanded. At least a 40 S&W. All you'd need is a drop in bbl and new mags.

With that said my friend used a Beretta 9mm and one shot one kill (head). So you will have a gun (9x19) in a gun fight .

I think this is similar to the HP debate. :icon17:

You have me interested in re-looking at the PPQ now. I just texted my FFL to order me one. Unfortunately, they are widely out of stock at virtually all of his distributers.

Here's an interesting thread over at M4C regarding Larry "Mr. Glock" Vickers and his impressions of the PPQ...

Walther PPQ - M4Carbine.net Forums

i hope to go buy a tarus judge today :)
iv shot a buddies and it was to much fun

well i bought my first gun a tarus judge will put up pics later when im not to lazy

Congrats :)

One of the most sought after guns in California that is not legal here for importation.

Enjoy it for all of us living behind the mental iron curtain.

The irony is that in 1968 the M16 was tested against the M14 and over-all across jungle, beach, etc. it proved more reliable, as a whole, and never much better/worse in each individual environment.

The M4 is plenty reliable. My 1911's? They crapped the bed IN a clean environment.

The M4 is tested to withstand 3600 rounds between stoppages. The target for the MEUsoc 1911? 300. That tells it.



Anyway, I bring more than bickering, I ordered one of these today (yesterday, now, technically), so make fun of me or be jealous of me, whatever, it will be here in 2 days:

New M&P 15T on Order:excited:

I know someone is going to take exception to this, but oh well; I like my S&W 1911 plenty but the design is archaic. It seems like it is something they came up with 100 years ago :rolleyes:

Someone else has said this, but the H&K USP .45ACP IS a modernized 1911 taking advantage of new materials and technology while adding new features such as a decocker, double-action trigger and a safety that can be engaged at any time.

Ironically I am selling my H&K USP .45 since I am picking up a H&K HK45C tomorrow. My Glock 19 is being sold as well because I have decided that even though there are many advantages to a striker-fired pistol, I just feel comfortable with DA when there is a round in the chamber while I am carrying it. Also being sold is my H&K P30L 9mm since even though I have a lot of range time with it, it is still the pistol I am the most inaccurate with. It is a fine weapon but the "spiderman" grips somehow screws with my trigger control. My H&K P2000SK gives me tighter groups where I want them even though it is a much smaller handgun. I think I might pick up an H&K P2000 to replace it since it has the nice flat grip which seems to suit me.

I will post pics :tup:

I used to carry a G19, but 1/10 casings seemed to come back very near my face, and it limited my clothing at times. I had to dress to the gun on occasion and it stayed home more than it should have. I carried IWB in a Comp-Tac MTAC. This, I will carry in a CTAC. Here are my impressions so far.

M&P 9 Shield Impressions so far:

Quality is superb. This does not feel like a $450 small pistol. It feels like an H&K, or a SIG (one of the German one's). Solid, sleek (okay, a newer H&K), and durable.

The sights are not available with tritium inserts, but are highly visible even in poor lighting. If you can see your target, you can see your sights.

I wear a size 7 surgical glove and can BARELY get my pinkie situated on the grip with the 7-round magazines. The 8-round magazines defeat the purpose of this pistol and I recommend a larger firearm if you feel inclined to use them.

The trigger is...okay. I prefer the trigger on my last Glock 19 to this, and my father, who loves high-end 1911's because he is a nostalgic kind of guy who nonetheless prefers an M4 at the side of his bed, had the trigger as his only complaint "Needs a trigger job" was his synopsis. Me? I don't know if I agree. I think it is a bit heavier than I like--feels like 6-7#--and it is not crisp or smooth, but it feels like the kind of grit that a few thousand rounds will clean up. I would NOT! let this stop me from buying the pistol.

The Safety...yeah, it has one. However, there is no way it will accidentally be activated, and it comes off VERY readily with a thumb-sweep on the draw.

Accuracy...I produced a group about the size of my spread hand my second magazine through it at 7 yards in failing dusk lighting using 124gr NATO winchester ammunition. I am not on my A-game right now, and the pistol has plenty more in it. It shoots where I point, I just need to get used to pointing a sub-compact.

Recoil...very manageable. It felt easily as controlled as I remember my G19. I am very impressed! It uses an all metal dual recoil assembly with the mainspring being of flatwire design, and the inner spring normal round-coil.

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Thanks for the review, I've considered the m&p 9

I am a a Huge M&P fan, but I prefer the double stack magazines so I carry the 40c

I think the M&P 9C is a great gun, as I am sure the .40 is, as well. However, I found myself leaving my G19 at home far too often. I think this Shield will remedy that.

If you don't mind me asking, what holster?

I have an LCP and J frame for occasions the 40 is to much to , I'm an instructor, have taught many hours, days, months, talking about holsters, carry methods, etc...

MTAC for the Glock, CTAC for the shield.

I have the M&P9c and the Shield 9mm. Love em both.

Importconvert - do you carry an extra mag with the shield?

:icon18:Pretty Nice Holsters! I've been stuck on my crossbreed supertuck the past few years...

Need to get around to trying out a Galco KingTuk...

The wife carries the M&P 9C:tiphat: Setup Left Handed, I like to shoot it left handed JIC;)

Well despite semtex's warnings I finally got my hands on a HK Hk45C. I can't wait to go to the range this weekend:

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I don't think you will be dissatisfied with the h&k, I have enjoyed shooting them!

Never had a bad experience with one. Looks good! Enjoy! Sadly, I think you will find it boring, though. All it does is go "bang" when you pull the trigger and lock back when it's empty. No real drama like 1911's and the like.

I will. I just ordered the gear this week. Comptac shipped it today. I did order a mag pouch. I don't think I will need it, but it is nice to know it's there, and it's not like it will weigh me down much.

I think I might sell my SA Range Officer and Glock 17. :|

Thanks, my MTAC is for sale, btw. 1.5" standard black clips, tan/borwn leather instead of the currently advertised black, and in great shape.

That is definitely been my experience with the USP .45. The Hk45c seems to be even more refined and sits better in my hand (less bulky). It's going to be my winter carry gun since it isn't really too much bigger than my P2000SK.

Are you going to replace them with anything?

I've learned a couple things over the summer:

I'm not really a 1911 guy and I'm not too happy with Glock after all these BTF issues.

I probably will, but maybe not right away.

ouch!

Sounds like a string of bad Gluck:rofl2:

I know I know, PICS say a thousand words, so....
 

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