would you happen to know the production years the decline in quality happened for both brands? cuz you're awesome maccool!

I don't know what year my self. But a while back, maybe a year or so ago, a vendor on a forum stated he states that kimbers are not up to par.

I think they are pricey.

Thanks for the feedback fellas. I have gone around to a few gun stores and have heard some of the same comments about Kimber, so I think I might aim a littler higher in my 1911 purchase. Originally my budget was around $1500, but I think I might plan on doubling that or more. A couple of makes that have caught my eye are Wilson Combat and Uselton, so with that being said it may be a couple of months till I can actually make the purchase.

Thanks again for the info and I will definitely post the pictures when I get it.

quick question. looks alone.
A
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/2891600...x209869637.jpg

or
B
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/2890570...x743918353.jpg

Just asking which looks better to you. The black is 50 bucks cheaper.

Not to get in a ballistics battle, but I was looking at getting my wife a bodyguard. Do you feel there's enough stopping power? Honest question, not trolling. I really do like the size of the gun and the fact it has a built in laser.

.380ACP is a compromise for sure. Can she not handle/is not willing to train with the 9mm?

If you must go .380, I recommend loading it with Corbon DPX.

here are a couple toys I share with my pops...I just cleaned the Makarov and saw this thread pop up so took a pic. Sorry for crappy camera phone quality.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7221/7...2f052f3d_z.jpg

Looks good! How are they to shoot?

that looks fun as sh*t :tup:

the .22 S&W is like shooting a bb gun lol, extremely accurate though. I have a lot of fun shooting the Makarov, it's not the most accurate gun but it's really easy to take apart/clean and it's a reliable workhorse. Just sucks shopping for ammo for it cause you can't use 9mm, it has to be specific Makarov that's very slightly different than a standard 9mm.

[QUOTE=Rooster89;1745123]quick question. looks alone...QUOTE]

B for black...but both look great. Going for the .308 carbine eh?

[QUOTE=BlackZeda;1746061]yeppers. need to start building up my collection while i still can.

Plus I already have a marlin 99c, why would i need a 556 carbine? :P

I'm not a fan of the .380 per say... but the .380 serves a purpose for me.
The Bodyguard holds 6 +1, I carry +P Rounds.

I do carry bigger calibers but when its 105 degree outside the .380 is perfect. T-shirt and shorts and it doesn't print.

saying that...
.380 will make you just as dead as any round.
Its all about shot placement anyway. I will say you must practice at the range with your carry pistol. The small pistols can be difficult to be accurate with.

To me that's the biggest concern about a small gun. Not the caliber size but the accuracy. These pocket guns have a long trigger pulls for safety making accuracy difficult. Also remember these guns are made for up close and personal defense. If things get crazy grab the AR ;)

Good Luck.

I have a little addiction to H&K. Here's the ones i've taken pics of. If you click on the pic and then click on it again when Flickr opens up, you'll get the high rez pic.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/7...bd1b254294.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5040/7...c24d8576a6.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/6...664f893ddc.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8165/7...e761e2925a.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7208/6...b34188939e.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6...aed6a326_n.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7064/6...5742265c54.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/6...39e3150e_n.jpg

Wow...speechless

is that a 45c with a can? :yum:

Went with the flat dark earth on gun broker. Auction ended today with me as highest bidder. :tup:

Yes, the .45c with Silencerco Oprey .45. It can go on my HK45, HK45c, or the USC/UMP conversion. Here's the full size HK45.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5275/5...f67c8aaf_n.jpg

I've never fired a handgun with a can, only long guns. Can you fire it without hearing protection?

Edit:I've also been looking into a 45c and .380 bodyguard for coldweather/warm weather carry options. My full size 1911 is not very concealable without a jacket :(

The can is "hearing safe" but I still prefer little ear plugs.

The .22 Sparrow suppressor I fire without hearing protection.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6217/6...b349189a6f.jpg

For summer carry the ruger LCP fits in my cargo shorts.

I can appreciate the H&K addiction :tup: ...I have only started down that road:

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...k-p30l-9mm.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...5-usp-40sw.jpg

very nice :tup:

:tup:

I have a P30 but not the L

I think if I didn't already own the P2000SK (which is what I carry) I probably would have gone for the P30 myself. I use the P30L for shooting at the range, which is perfect since it is a variant 3 (decocker, ambidextrous controls, SA hammer).

oldies but goodies
 

Here's a couple pics of 2 of my favorite oldies, my Swiss K31 and my CG80, both very fun to shoot and accurate! .:tup:

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reported spam modtechindiaa ^

Just picked this up today...
http://i46.tinypic.com/5x4kl3.jpg

^ Fantastic can right there

Purchased today or form 4 back today?

Stamp received.

I already have a pinned 14.5" Noveske to put it on, but I wanted a clone of what I already have, except in SBR form...so here we go again...

http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin...status=&title=
(I chose to have them use a chrome-lined hammer-forged barrel from the M249 spec that Noveske uses, Geissele SSA trigger, and LMT stock and Surefire flash-hider instead of what you see pictured).

Nice stuff. I want a 9-10" Noveske .300 Blackout upper

Nice! I'm holding off on the 300AAC until I know where it's headed, and whether or not it will really catch on and if they can iron the issues out with it.

I'm finally getting my 1911 back tomorrow...I don't know how the hell I'm going to be able to sleep tonight :roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

I've had a couple good-quality 9mm suppressors. Both were fine for shooting 147gr ammo (naturally subsonic in most loadings) with no hearing protection. The clacking of the gun's action was almost louder than the pop from the firing itself. I've heard .45 is similar but without having to be so picky about ammo (since it's almost all subsonic), but never tried it myself.

Suppressor on a shorty AR-15 on the other hand, is a whole different ballgame. The outdoors sound level goes down from "ear-damaging" to "possibly not quite ear-damaging, but I'm not sure". Indoors you'd definitely still want plugs if you had the choice. Subsonic ammo (which also doesn't cycle the action) can make even an SBR AR-15 really dead quiet, but then it's about as ballistically useful as .22LR, so you might as well just use that. I bought a couple boxes from an ammo mfg here in TX once, never even finished shooting those.

Mine is a 14.5" pinned barrel. I shot it today, and without ears, I could dump a 20 round magazine slow/steady fire without discomfort. I then turned my switchblock to "normal", and it rang my ear. You NEED a way to damp the gas down to the right flow-rate, or you will be unnecessarily adding a few dB to things. Is mine REALLY hearing-safe? No, the ballistic crack is about 150dB, but it IS coming from downrange, and what's there to reflect it back to you is what matters. Indoors it sucks. Outside, not too bad at all, as I discovered. Sounds like a .22 semi-auto shooting stingers.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ykxid3.jpg

finally :tup:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...619_173105.jpg

Came out looking pretty sick. =)

So when are we shooting it? ;-)

Don't know about you but Im shooting it today and tomorrow and hopefully saturday at an IPSC match if I can borrow a holster. The one I have isn't the right size :roflpuke2:

Just broke down and ordered a new AR. I have a Sig 556 as my main AR but I want a traditional ar now so I ordered a BCM upper. Not sure on the lower right now but its going to be my new coyote rig. I can't wait to run it and see what it can do. Picked up a BCM bolt carrier and gunfighter charging handle too. Here is the upper: BCM SS410™ 16" Mid Length Upper Receiver Group w/ Midwest Industries SSG2 12" Handguard 1/8 Twist

I'm thinking about building my own AK47 kit. I have posted on other forums so i can get some opionions (It would be my first AK and first to have one built. But i have shot ak's before)

I'm getting that its better to buy a pre built ak cause it will be cheaper and less of a pain in the *** to build one. Or get a wasr and have rifle dynamics upgrade the wasr. But since i live in cali, with ffl fee's, shipping charges, bullet button, i'll end up paying over 1k if i go this route. Hell i'll end up paying the same to have one built. But i won't have to go through an FFL dealer and i can buy my own aftermarket kits.

I don't have any tools but occasionally we have build parties and usually they have all the necessary tools to have ak's built.

I want your thoughts, opionions or suggestions! Have anyone of guys built your own AK? How would you say it compares to say a wasr or even a arsenal ak's. (quality of the build, finish and how does it shot :tup:)

Here's one of the kit i may get, but it is pricey.

1969 Izhmash AKM Parts Kit