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ImportConvert 01-28-2013 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandZ45 (Post 2133824)
Speaking of which. Have had the Z about 7 weeks now and still can't figure out where to keep a car gun in it. Could put a snubby in the glove box but leaning over to get it in a pinch is a "tell" that could get me hurt. Same with reaching behind the passenger seat which is also problematic due to a bad shoulder (unless there is some way to secure it down low)

Thought about attaching a left handed holster to the shiny cross bar under the seat which would be ready at hand without being obvious but that seems dangerous in an accident--might break loose and fly up under my feet.

Could put a mouse gun or subcompact in the center console but don't own one that small and it isn't a good time to be a buyer now. Prefer large frame revolver or full size semi-auto.

What is left? Do I need to get a permit and just hang it on myself? Any ideas?

Open carry on your right leg.

DEpointfive0 01-28-2013 02:22 AM

Hey, who knows where to get some 30 round AR mags without being bent over?

Either Magpuls or CHEAP arse mags

DEpointfive0 01-28-2013 03:13 AM

Is there anyone else who does this....

When I open a box of WWB .44Mag or my .50AE ammo boxes and I slide the ammo out and see all the brass or the hollow points (respectively), a shít eating grin and happiness comes across my face, lol

ImportConvert 01-28-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2134136)
Hey, who knows where to get some 30 round AR mags without being bent over?

Either Magpuls or CHEAP arse mags

You live in California. I'm not sure what advice is even valid for your state. I do know this:

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California state laws states that magazines must be made to permanently hold ten rounds, with permanent requiring a tool to render back into high capacity mags. The blocked magazines cannot be made to hold more than ten rounds without destroying the magazine in the process.
http://www.nationalgunsupply.com/Mag...ca-blocked.htm

OMGiGOTaZ 01-28-2013 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2134136)
Hey, who knows where to get some 30 round AR mags without being bent over?

Either Magpuls or CHEAP arse mags

check here regularly the get small supply shipments but they are always gone by morning, now that I know your lookin I'll let you know when I see them pop up

I ordered a Magpul W/window from here

Rooster89 01-28-2013 09:47 AM

Feb 8th. Your state capital.

edub370 01-28-2013 11:24 AM

UPDATE: vltor stock and buffer tube now added... getting closer


http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...ltor-stock.jpg

ImportConvert 01-28-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2134457)
UPDATE: vltor stock and buffer tube now added... getting closer


http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...ltor-stock.jpg

Looks good, and if you find complete QUALITY BCG's in stock, PM me after you buy yours! I need 3, all are gifts to friends. This Christmas I was to give people uppers, but could not find BCG's :(

edub370 01-28-2013 02:31 PM

Deal. uppers are so difficult to find right now.

ImportConvert 01-29-2013 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2134954)
Deal. uppers are so difficult to find right now.

Yeah, I ordered two from PSA back during the Black Friday sale (Midlength flat-top with fixed FSB and "regular" handguards) for gifts and it took me over a month and a half for PSA to deliver both. Now I need the BCG's.

DEpointfive0 01-29-2013 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2134215)
You live in California. I'm not sure what advice is even valid for your state. I do know this:


Magpul PMAG 10 Rnd Magazine $19.95 | California PMAG Magazine | AR15 PMAG 10 RND Magazine


You can ship to TX! :tup:

ImportConvert 01-29-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2136178)
You can ship to TX! :tup:

True story!

edub370 01-29-2013 09:19 AM

bolt carrier groups.... whos got em

Mt Tam I am 01-29-2013 10:26 AM

I bought 7 CA off list AR's in September for $375 each. I would not pay $475 like the guy wanted and he countered with $375, so I bought them as who would want CA lowers with "bullet buttons" or paddles over the grips, so as to render them non pistol gripped. I primarily bought them for the uppers.

I tried to sell one for $700 and could not. I have now sold them all, most for $1100, one scoped model I got $1800.

Somebody else, who feared confiscation, sold me two more Vietnam era, no forward assist Colt uppers with off list lowers. They went just as fast.

I do feel that nationally, guns will be OK. But in places like CA, NY, etc. It will get worse.

UNKNOWN_370 01-29-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2134136)
Hey, who knows where to get some 30 round AR mags without being bent over?

Either Magpuls or CHEAP arse mags

nowhere bro... Its rape city.

UNKNOWN_370 01-29-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2136425)
bolt carrier groups.... whos got em

2 ways...

Palmetto State Armory (PSA) or you can build a piston AR with an Adams Arms kit. :)

I'm doing the latter

BlackZeda 01-29-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2137575)
nowhere bro... Its rape city.

I have 10 30-round steel magazines and 9 30-round PMAGs so I just wanted one more PMAG to round things out (don't ask...I have a thing about symmetry). So I found on Cheaper Than Dirt they had PMAGs listed for 79.95 and on sale for 49.95 so I bought one. My butt hurts...

BlackZeda 01-29-2013 09:49 PM

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...-22-40-s-w.jpg

I picked these beauties up just in case they ban high-capacity magazines. The background check just came back today, in which it took 10 days. Usually it takes about 15 minutes. The H&K P2000 is 9mm and the Glock is model 22 (full-sized .40 S&W). I had a Glock 19, but getting the P2000 made it kinda redundant, but I still wanted at least one Glock.

Red__Zed 01-29-2013 10:08 PM

Daniel Defense Ambush V7 5.56MM 18 inch MOINF - fort worth sports equipment for sale - backpage.com

In stock!

ImportConvert 01-29-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2137586)
2 ways...

Palmetto State Armory (PSA) or you can build a piston AR with an Adams Arms kit. :)

I'm doing the latter

PSA hasn't had them for weeks, and I don't like piston AR's.

CCastro 01-29-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 2137947)
http://www.the370z.com/members/black...-22-40-s-w.jpg

I picked these beauties up just in case they ban high-capacity magazines. The background check just came back today, in which it took 10 days. Usually it takes about 15 minutes. The H&K P2000 is 9mm and the Glock is model 22 (full-sized .40 S&W). I had a Glock 19, but getting the P2000 made it kinda redundant, but I still wanted at least one Glock.

I have a P2000 in .40 with the LEM Trigger... I want a Glock in 9mm

DEpointfive0 01-29-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 2137886)
I have 10 30-round steel magazines and 9 30-round PMAGs so I just wanted one more PMAG to round things out (don't ask...I have a thing about symmetry). So I found on Cheaper Than Dirt they had PMAGs listed for 79.95 and on sale for 49.95 so I bought one. My butt hurts...

Lol, I'm that way about other things


I had 2 steel mags that came with my gun and 16 PMAGs, I just gave 2 away to a friend for his birthday. So I wanted to know if you guys have the down low on a good place not to get fisted

UNKNOWN_370 01-29-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2137980)
PSA hasn't had them for weeks, and I don't like piston AR's.

Oh well... I do. But i'm interested in
a. eventually running suppressed
b. Don't like the idea that cleaning is IMPERATIVE after use.
c. Don't like heat on the bolt. (don't care what DI fanboys claim either) Heat= increased wear on a vital component
d. During these times, getting an M4 build operational takes some compromises
e. Running the Right length piston system can keep a gun fairly balanced.
f. Don't believe the hype. Magpul fore-end handguard help increase balance and cut heat from the front.
g. Carrier tilt? BS and ancient. Dont get me started.

Ackrite 01-29-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2138048)
Lol, I'm that way about other things


I had 2 steel mags that came with my gun and 16 PMAGs, I just gave 2 away to a friend for his birthday. So I wanted to know if you guys have the down low on a good place not to get fisted

Don't know or care about pmags. I have quite a few that I bought a long time ago and don't really use for about $11 a piece and am now tempted to sell for the low, low price of $100 each. My 30(?) gallon trash bags full of GI steel mags are more than sufficient since I don't even have enough ammo to fill them.

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2138076)
Don't know or care about pmags. I have quite a few that I bought a long time ago and don't really use for about $11 a piece and am now tempted to sell for the low, low price of $100 each. My 30(?) gallon trash bags full of GI steel mags are more than sufficient since I don't even have enough ammo to fill them.

I can't believe i cant find 10 round AK mags. Even 10 round mags are impossible to find and the prices are high... why if there is no ban restriction.

I need 2 AK, 10 round, 7.62 mags if anyone can find?

Ackrite 01-30-2013 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2138129)
I can't believe i cant find 10 round AK mags. Even 10 round mags are impossible to find and the prices are high... why if there is no ban restriction.

I need 2 AK, 10 round, 7.62 mags if anyone can find?

AK's in general seem to be impossible to find, at least here in CA. On the main CA gun forum classifieds there are probably hundreds of AR's, lowers, and over priced pmags, but literally no AK's or parts for them. You probably can't even find 10-rounders since whatever was available pre Sandy Hook shipped out west to CA immediately right after.

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2138147)
AK's in general seem to be impossible to find, at least here in CA. On the main CA gun forum classifieds there are probably hundreds of AR's, lowers, and over priced pmags, but literally no AK's or parts for them. You probably can't even find 10-rounders since whatever was available pre Sandy Hook shipped out west to CA immediately right after.

AK parts kits i have found, but they used to be $200, now they are $400.

This fkin shyt is getting corny already. Every hobby has to be exploited and gouge marketed, for political or capitalist reasons. Like car tuning etc. That shyt has gone up 200% in price over the last 10 years. Remember when intake exhaust and headers was less than $2,000???

edub370 01-30-2013 08:59 AM

why the f r u guys paying $50-$70 a pmag? even with all this craziness my local gun store has them for 30....

i got some swamp land in florida for sale if anyone wants in

BlackZeda 01-30-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2138403)
why the f r u guys paying $50-$70 a pmag? even with all this craziness my local gun store has them for 30....

i got some swamp land in florida for sale if anyone wants in

:bowrofl: That's a good one...AR mags in stock at a local gun store.

edub370 01-30-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 2138939)
:bowrofl: That's a good one...AR mags in stock at a local gun store.

:ugh2: was just in there on sunday

They reeeally aren't hard to find for a whole lot less than $70

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=327894081



so about my swamp land...

Rooster89 01-30-2013 02:19 PM

Rooster presents your gun porn for the day

http://www.tactical-life.com/online/..._dunn-0656.jpg

:yum:

ImportConvert 01-30-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2138069)
Oh well... I do. But i'm interested in
a. eventually running suppressed I run suppressed almost all the time except high-volume training.
b. Don't like the idea that cleaning is IMPERATIVE after use. Who said it was? Last time I shot "a lot" it was 1600-1700 rounds during a 3-day course. I didn't do anything, just lubed it on day 1 before the course began. I cleaned it a few weeks later at home. NO lube, no wipe-downs, nothing during the course over 3 days. Ran great.
c. Don't like heat on the bolt. (don't care what DI fanboys claim either) Heat= increased wear on a vital component The bolt gets to about 10-20*F hotter in a DI gun than a piston gun after about a dozen mag-dumps (around 130*F total temp). I really don't think it's a problem. The real issue is that the gas-block in a piston gun gets hot. Very hot. As in twice as hot as on a DI AR (about 600*F compared to about 300*F). It's almost like having a suppressor under the rail. You shoot it enough and you are going to need some gloves, really awesome rail overs, to move your hand, etc. God forbid the weapon should graze your leg when you sling it. Also, if you are running a light, which you need on an HD carbine, chances are the body will be next to the gas-block, and batteries don't like heat. Sure would suck if they ruptured.
d. During these times, getting an M4 build operational takes some compromises Very true, or time. One of the two.
e. Running the Right length piston system can keep a gun fairly balanced. Has a lot to do with rail, stock, etc.
f. Don't believe the hype. Magpul fore-end handguard help increase balance and cut heat from the front. No comment, it's a personal opinion. The barrel-nut is the main thing that pulls heat out of the throat area.
g. Carrier tilt? BS and ancient. Dont get me started. That's not my issue, HK seems to have fixed it. I didn't buy a 416 because I didn't want to deal with a ton of proprietary parts and a gun that was over-gassed when suppressed. I did not see any adjustable gas-system 416's when I bought my SBR. I have heard they exist, in which case, I might consider one, but don't think it offers anything better than what I run now, just another flavor.

My .02 and experiences on it.

MacCool 01-31-2013 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2138069)
Oh well... I do. But i'm interested in
a. eventually running suppressed
b. Don't like the idea that cleaning is IMPERATIVE after use.
c. Don't like heat on the bolt. (don't care what DI fanboys claim either) Heat= increased wear on a vital component
d. During these times, getting an M4 build operational takes some compromises
e. Running the Right length piston system can keep a gun fairly balanced.
f. Don't believe the hype. Magpul fore-end handguard help increase balance and cut heat from the front.
g. Carrier tilt? BS and ancient. Dont get me started.


Piston guns are fine. The design is a good solution to a problem that really doesn't exist, but they're a completely viable weapon system. A friend of mine actually created a line of piston guns (Huldra). I've spent a lot of time talking with him and his technical director (who is also my primary instructor). I still don't own one even though I could get one at cost any time I want. OTOH, he has a new sister line of DI guns coming out (Korstog .. http://www.facebook.com/korstogarms?ref=ts&fref=ts )

ImportConvert 01-31-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2139982)
Piston guns are fine. The design is a good solution to a problem that really doesn't exist, but they're a completely viable weapon system. A friend of mine actually created a line of piston guns (Huldra). I've spent a lot of time talking with him and his technical director (who is also my primary instructor). I still don't own one even though I could get one at cost any time I want. OTOH, he has a new sister line of DI guns coming out (Korstog .. http://www.facebook.com/korstogarms?ref=ts&fref=ts )

Unless he's making his own parts 100% in-house, horrible time to come out with a new AR. That said, if he can actually get the parts to build them, I bet they sell!

ImportConvert 01-31-2013 10:50 AM

Doublt-tap 'em with a shovel!
DIY: Shovel AK - photo tsunami warning!

Red__Zed 01-31-2013 09:43 PM

Anyone have experience with one of these?

ShotLock Universal Solo Vault Safe

Obviously not perfectly secure, but I like the idea.

UNKNOWN_370 02-01-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2139982)
Piston guns are fine. The design is a good solution to a problem that really doesn't exist, but they're a completely viable weapon system. A friend of mine actually created a line of piston guns (Huldra). I've spent a lot of time talking with him and his technical director (who is also my primary instructor). I still don't own one even though I could get one at cost any time I want. OTOH, he has a new sister line of DI guns coming out (Korstog .. http://www.facebook.com/korstogarms?ref=ts&fref=ts )

Kool, you know those guys!!! In my search for parts I've ran across them. Hmmm so are you holding back on an AR kinneck????:crying:

ImportConvert 02-01-2013 10:00 AM

Picked this up from a pawn shop today for $399+Tax. Still had tons of factory copper-colored "lube" in it when I broke it down for cleaning. WIN!
http://i48.tinypic.com/aeoaci.jpg

m4a1mustang 02-01-2013 10:05 AM

I love my G19. I wish it wouldn't shoot me in the face, though (Gen 4). But I guess I don't mind anymore. :|

MacCool 02-02-2013 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2142267)
I love my G19. I wish it wouldn't shoot me in the face, though (Gen 4). But I guess I don't mind anymore. :|



I finally was able to turn my Gen 3 Glock 19 into a functional pistol by changing the ejector to the 30274 (Gen 4 ejector) and putting in Apex' Gen 3-specific extractor and a stiffer bearing spring with original LCI bearing. It's an ok pistol now, but the PPQ has been and is a vastly superior pistol IMHO. Prior to that $70 upgrade, my Glock was not functional, with about 5 rounds out of every magazine hitting me in the forehead and about the same number ending up in my shirt pocket. It was beyond merely annoying; clearly a malfunction and one that appears to be not uncommon, judging by the number of people who post about it with varying degrees of disgust and anger.

The incidence of malfunction appears to be lower in the Gen 4 9mm Glocks, and the Apex extractors appear to fix them more reliably than the Gen 3s. Still no word that Glock has fixed or even acknowledged that their 9mm pistols have a high rate of malfunction.


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