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dad 08-31-2009 03:40 PM

Sig Sauer recall:SIG SAUER : Product Alerts

semtex 09-02-2009 10:29 AM

A Maglite that's a shotgun.

YouTube - Maglite Shotgun Shootin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euoy_yN3uEE

http://www.npdf.org/images/Safe_Cops...ht_shotgun.jpg

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tvfreakazoid 09-03-2009 04:41 AM

how about 1:8 twist? I've seen this on some ar 15. My pof has a 1:8 twist.


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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 99332)
tv:

re twist rates and bullets:

Rifles are called rifles because the barrel has "rifling", which is a set of grooves (or something close to that) engraved in the inside of the barrel. These grooves twist, and their primary purpose is to impart a spin to the departing bullet to make it stable in flight. 1:7 is the ratio of the spin, and is the tightest spin generally available on a 5.56 cal AR-15. 1:9 is the common "compromise" twist rate, and you'll also see some 1:10 and even 1:12 guns. The tighter you make the twist rate, the heavier bullet your barrel can stabilize. The downside is that if the twist rate is too tight and you shoot very lightweight bullets, they could fly apart and fragment in the air from excess twist.

People who use an AR-15 to kill very small game (called "varmint" gun builds, because they're used to shoot small varmints like groundhogs and squirrels, etc) like to use very light bullets (40-55gr weight) at very high velocities, so for them a looser twist makes sense (1:10 or 1:12).

Standard issue US military ball ammo in 5.56 comes in 55gr (which will stabilize and be reliable in just about any twist rate) and 62gr (works fine in 1:7 and 1:9 barrels, but may not stabilize well in 1:10 or 1:12 barrels).

But according to modern ballistics research, the best performing rounds (on humans) in 5.56 tend to be the really heavy ones, like the 69gr, 75gr, 78gr, and yes even crazy 80gr rounds. 75gr Hornady TAP is very popular for a defensive round in the AR-15, for example. None of the heavier ones will stabilize in 1:9 reliably, only in 1:7. Some people have success with the 69 in a 1:9 barrel, but it's kindof a crapshoot depending on the barrel and bullet mfg.

Re the uppers you're looking at:

The POF upper you're describing is what's known as a piston-driven upper. Piston guns are a matter of a lot of contention and debate in the AR-15 community. The original design of the AR was to be gas-driven, whereas some other rifles like the AK-47 are piston driven.

Someone decided you could get the best of both worlds by modifying the AR design to be piston-driven too. Upsides are supposedly less recoil, and that the upper receiver and the bolt stay cleaner (less burnt stuff blowing on them all the time), but they still do require lubrication (don't let anyone tell you not to lube an AR just because it's a piston design, it still needs lube, the lube will just last longer). Downside is it's a relativelty recent and unproven serious design change to a good design that's proven itself well over the course of decades in the field. One of the biggest specific concerns is that the bolt is now driven back with an off-center force, which could cause galling of the upper receiver surface. Also has more small fragile parts than the original design, which may or may not fail early (not enough data).

LWRC also makes piston uppers, and are generally considered to be one of the highest quality piston uppers you can buy. If I were going piston, I'd shell out for LWRC instead of POF, but that's just me. Then again, a lot of people will tell you not to mess with a good thing, and just go with the original gas design, which is what you commonly find on all the major AR-15 variants (standard in Colt, Bushmaster, LMT, Knight's, Armalite, etc, etc).


wstar 09-03-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 184213)
how about 1:8 twist? I've seen this on some ar 15. My pof has a 1:8 twist.

I donno, I've never read up much on people's experiences with 1:8. I would assume it's fine for at least 69gr ammo, and probably 75gr. Not so sure about the super-heavies like 78's and 80's though. 1:7 is kinda the official standard for short barrels and heavy bullets though, and it's what you get on real M4's. Slower twists are compromises to be sure you don't spin-fragment light bullets, but 55gr ammo works fine in 1:7, and there's really no use for shooting anything lighter than that unless you're actually doing the varmint-hunting thing (as in, using an AR to kill groundhogs and the like).

robin 09-03-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 174285)

hey mightybobo..cool site and very informative it keep me updated on this things too..

robin 09-03-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 175929)
Amazing! :tup:

likewise here! good pics and information regarding this pieces of metal(firearms)

robin 09-03-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 170656)
Anybody ever read this blog, it's pretty interesting.

Civilian Gun Self-Defense Blog

cool woman! i think its best to have some guns at home for our protection..!!

robin 09-04-2009 08:08 PM

would you believe its the first time i had seen this piece?

semtex 09-06-2009 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by robin (Post 186649)
would you believe its the first time i had seen this piece?

Not surprised. These are kinda rare as they're no longer in production. The only reason I came across it is that my local gun store has two of them in their Class III cage.

robin 09-07-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 187638)
Not surprised. These are kinda rare as they're no longer in production. The only reason I came across it is that my local gun store has two of them in their Class III cage.

so we can consider it as a vintage already?:icon18:

robin 09-08-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 175982)
Funking looking sks. I would hold on to it. I've got one but it's just a regular russian sks 1954. It's original at least. You should go the sks forum:
SKS forum

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...d/IMG_9058.jpg

never seen this one too! its a great idea !!(going to sks forum :icon18:)

semtex 09-09-2009 09:15 AM

In case anyone here has a Ruger LCP and isn't already aware, there's a recall out on some of them. Ruger - LCP Product Safety Warning and Recall Notice

dad 09-10-2009 02:10 PM

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ZKindaGuy 09-10-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 184781)
I donno, I've never read up much on people's experiences with 1:8. I would assume it's fine for at least 69gr ammo, and probably 75gr. Not so sure about the super-heavies like 78's and 80's though.

1:8 twist is what my Les Baer AR-15 is. The best bullet weight for 1:8 twist is between 60 and 77 grains. It can perform well with light bullets down to 55grains as long as the jacket isn't too thin.

tvfreakazoid 09-10-2009 03:50 PM

Good to know. I have a pof upper that is a 1:8 twist.
I have 1k rounds of centurion ammo (55g) and i'm looking to buy some different range of bullet weight to test out my upper. But it's so expensive. I'm going to try to get some 60's to 77's weight ammo.

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 192716)
1:8 twist is what my Les Baer AR-15 is. The best bullet weight for 1:8 twist is between 60 and 77 grains. It can perform well with light bullets down to 55grains as long as the jacket isn't too thin.


robin 09-11-2009 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 192735)
Good to know. I have a pof upper that is a 1:8 twist.
I have 1k rounds of centurion ammo (55g) and i'm looking to buy some different range of bullet weight to test out my upper. But it's so expensive. I'm going to try to get some 60's to 77's weight ammo.

are you a member of a specific club that is complete in amenities such as firing range and the likes? how much money did you spend for the bullets of that kind of piece?

Inspector71 09-11-2009 02:47 PM

tvfreakazoid
 
I didn't build one but purchased a complete AR in 6.8 spc cal. from CMMG here in Missouri. They sell all the parts to build your own. Certainly some or many come from DPMS and if you haven't checked out their catalogue, it is a good place to start.

frost 09-12-2009 01:13 PM

http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/earplug.jpg

robin 09-13-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 195778)

lol:icon18:+ ..nice illustration here! for everyone to see..

tvfreakazoid 09-14-2009 12:34 AM

Nope i'm not a member of any type of clubs. The ammo that i have so far is a 55g centrion brand. I bought 1k ammo for $375 shipped. I just wanted to test different weight of bullets for my new ar.

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Originally Posted by robin (Post 193958)
are you a member of a specific club that is complete in amenities such as firing range and the likes? how much money did you spend for the bullets of that kind of piece?


tvfreakazoid 09-21-2009 03:07 AM

Well it took about 3 months or so, finally i got my ar build done. I will post pics sometime this week.

dad 09-23-2009 01:53 PM

Recall-If you own one of the following-go to the Colt site for more info..






IMPORTANT NOTICE



Colt's Manufacturing Company LLC has determined that the Slide Lock Safety and the Recoil Spring Guide Pad in certain Colt model pistols were not manufactured to Colt specifications and must be replaced. All of these Colt models were sold after March 2007 and the range of serial numbers affected by this product recall is as follows:

1911 WWI Replica (O1911) From: 4597WMK To: 5414WMK
1918 WWI Replica (O1918) From: 1001WWI To: 3431WWI
New Agent (O7810D) From: GT01001 To: GT04505
Combat Elite (O8011XSE) From: CG10000E To: CG11293E
Defender (O7000D) From: DR33036 To: DR35948
Talo Night Defender (O7000NDF) From: NDF0001 To: NDF0400

dad 09-23-2009 08:46 PM

America armed, but guns not necessarily loaded
 
NEW ORLEANS – Bullet-makers are working around the clock, seven days a week, and still can't keep up with the nation's demand for ammunition.

Shooting ranges, gun dealers and bullet manufacturers say they have never seen such shortages. Bullets, especially for handguns, have been scarce for months because gun enthusiasts are stocking up on ammo, in part because they fear President Barack Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress will pass antigun legislation — even though nothing specific has been proposed and the president last month signed a law allowing people to carry loaded guns in national parks.

Gun sales spiked when it became clear Obama would be elected a year ago and purchases continued to rise in his first few months of office. The FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System reported that 6.1 million background checks for gun sales were issued from January to May, an increase of 25.6 percent from the same period the year before.

"That is going to cause an upswing in ammunition sales," said Larry Keane, senior vice president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a trade association representing about 5,000 members. "Without bullets a gun is just a paper weight."

The shortage for sportsmen is different than the scarcity of ammo for some police forces earlier this year, a dearth fueled by an increase in ammo use by the military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"We are working overtime and still can't keep up with the demand," said Al Russo, spokesman for North Carolina-based Remington Arms Company, which makes bullets for rifles, handguns and shotguns. "We've had to add a fourth shift and go 24-7. It's a phenomenon that I have not seen before in my 30 years in the business."

Americans usually buy about 7 billion rounds of ammunition a year, according to the National Rifle Association. In the past year, that figure has jumped to about 9 billion rounds, said NRA spokeswoman Vickie Cieplak.

Jason Gregory, who manages Gretna Gun Works just outside of New Orleans, has been building his personal supply of ammunition for months. His goal is to have at least 1,000 rounds for each of his 25 weapons.

"I call it the Obama effect," said Gregory, 37, of Terrytown, La. "It always happens when the Democrats get in office. It happened with Clinton and Obama is even stronger for gun control. Ammunition will be the first step, so I'm stocking up while I can."

So far, the new administration nor Congress has not been markedly antigun. Obama has said he respects Second Amendment rights, but favors "common sense" on gun laws. Still, worries about what could happen persist.

Demand has been so heavy at some Walmarts, a limit was imposed on the amount of ammo customers can buy. The cutoff varies according to caliber and store location, but sometimes as little as one box — or 50 bullets — is allowed.

At Barnwood Arms in Ripon, Calif., sales manager Dallas Jett said some of the shortages have leveled off, but 45-caliber rounds are still hard to find.

"We've been in business for 32 years and I've been here for 10 and we've never seen anything like it," Jett said. "Coming out of Christmas everything started to dry up and it was that way all through the spring and summer.

Nationwide, distributors are scrambling to fill orders from retailers.

"We used to be able to order 50 or 60 cases and get them in three or four days easy, it was never an issue," said Vic Grechniw of Florida Ammo Traders, a distributor in Tampa, Fla. "Now you are really lucky if you can get one case a month. It just isn't there because the demand is way up."

A case contains 500 or 1,000 bullets.

At Jefferson Gun Outlet and Range in Metairie just west of New Orleans, owner Mike Mayer is worried individuals are going to start buying by the case.

"If someone wants to shoot on the weekend you have to worry about having the ammunition for them. And I know some people aren't buying to use it at the range, they're taking it home and hoarding it."

With demand, prices have also risen.

"Used to be gold, but now lead is the most expensive metal," said Donald Richards, 37, who was stocking up at the Jefferson store. "And worth every penny."

robin 09-24-2009 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 198137)
Nope i'm not a member of any type of clubs. The ammo that i have so far is a 55g centrion brand. I bought 1k ammo for $375 shipped. I just wanted to test different weight of bullets for my new ar.

how long have you been into this kind of hobby?

tvfreakazoid 09-25-2009 06:27 AM

For about 3 months. Very new.

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Originally Posted by robin (Post 210836)
how long have you been into this kind of hobby?


robin 09-27-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 212263)
For about 3 months. Very new.

yeah fairly new huh..well i guess you dig it!!

dad 09-30-2009 05:14 PM

Ban handguns? Supreme Court taking a new look
 
WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court says it will take up a challenge to Chicago's ban on handguns, opening the way for a ruling that could set off a vigorous new campaign to roll back state and local gun controls across the nation.

Victory for gun-rights proponents in the Chicago case is considered likely, even by supporters of gun control, in the latest battle in the nation's long and often bitter dispute over the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. A ruling against the city's outright ban could lead to legal challenges to less-restrictive laws across the country that limit who can own guns, whether firearms must be registered and how they should be stored.

The case is to be argued early next year.

Last year, the justices struck down a prohibition on handguns in the District of Columbia, a city with unique federal status, as a violation of the Second Amendment. Now the court will decide whether that ruling should apply to local and state laws as well.

The court has previously said that most, but not all, rights laid out in the Constitution's Bill of Rights serve as checks on state as well as federal restrictions. Separately, 44 state constitutions already enshrine gun rights.

Though faced with potential limits from the high court on their ability to enact laws and regulations in this area, 34 states weighed in on the gun- rights side before the justices agreed to take the case Wednesday, an indication of the enduring strength of the National Rifle Association and its allies.

The gun case was among several the court added to its docket for the term that begins Monday. Others include:

• A challenge to part of a law that makes it a crime to provide financial and other aid to any group designated a terrorist organization.

• A dispute over when new, harsher penalties can be given to sex offenders who don't register with state sex offender databases.

• Whether to throw out a human rights lawsuit against a former prime minister of Somalia who is accused of overseeing killings and other atrocities. The issue is whether a federal law gives the former official, Mohamed Ali Samantar, immunity from lawsuits in U.S. courts.

In the gun case, outright handgun bans appear to be limited to Chicago and suburban Oak Park, Ill. But a ruling against those ordinances probably would "open up all the gun regulations in the country to constitutional scrutiny, of which there are quite a few," said Mark Tushnet, a Harvard Law School professor whose recent book "Out of Range" explores the often bitter national debate over guns.

Already, Alan Gura, who led the legal challenge to the Washington law and represents the plaintiff in Chicago, is suing to overturn the District of Columbia's prohibition on carrying firearms outside a person's home. Illinois and Wisconsin have similar restrictions.

In voiding Washington's handgun ban last year, Justice Antonin Scalia suggested that gun rights, like the right to speech, are limited and that many gun control measures could remain in place.

Ultimately, said Tushnet, the court will have to decide, possibly restriction by restriction, which limits are reasonable.

"It's very hard to know where this court would draw the line between reasonable and unreasonable," he said.

NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said he hopes the court rules that "core fundamental freedoms like speech, religion and, we believe, the right to keep and bear arms are intended to apply to every individual in the country."

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said the court's decision to take up the new case was unsurprising in light of last year's ruling.

These cases should "take the extremes off the table," Helmke said, referring to bans on guns and unlimited gun rights. "What's critical for us is how the court goes about fleshing out what the limits are."

The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago had upheld the gun bans as legitimate expressions of local and state rights.

Judge Frank Easterbrook, an appointee of President Ronald Reagan, wrote in the ruling that "the Constitution establishes a federal republic where local differences are to be cherished as elements of liberty rather than extirpated in order to produce a single, nationally applicable rule."

"Federalism is an older and more deeply rooted tradition than is a right to carry any particular kind of weapon," Easterbrook wrote.

Evaluating arguments over the extension of the Second Amendment is a job "for the justices rather than a court of appeals," he said.

Justice Sonia Sotomayor, then an appeals court judge, was part of a three-judge panel in New York that reached a similar conclusion in January.

The high court took the suggestion Wednesday.

Judges on both courts — Republican nominees in Chicago and Democratic nominees in New York — said only the Supreme Court could decide whether to extend last year's ruling throughout the country.

The New York ruling also has been challenged, but the court did not act on it Wednesday. Sotomayor would have to sit out any case involving decisions she was part of on the appeals court. Although the issue is the same in the Chicago case, there is no ethical bar to her participation in its consideration by the Supreme Court.

She replaced Justice David Souter, who dissented in the 5-4 Washington case, so the five-justice majority remains intact.

Several Republican senators cited the Sotomayor gun ruling, as well as her reticence on the topic at her confirmation hearing, in explaining their decision to oppose her confirmation to the high court.

The case is McDonald v. Chicago, 08-1521.

dad 10-06-2009 09:56 PM

If you live(or visit)California...

http://www.gunlaw.com/index.php

dad 10-10-2009 12:22 PM

Polls Show Record-Low Support for Stricter Gun Laws



Results from a just-released Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that, more and more, Americans are in support of the Second Amendment and its individual guarantee of law-abiding citizens to Keep and Bear Arms, and oppose more restrictions on that right.

Among the surveys highlights:

Only 39% of Americans say the United States needs stricter gun control;

50% are opposed to stricter gun control laws and 11% are not sure;

69% of adults say city governments do not have the right to prevent citizens from owning handguns;

87% of Republicans, 52% of Democrats, and 72% of "unaffiliateds" say cities do not have the right to ban handgun ownership;

71% of Americans continue to believe that the U.S. Constitution guarantees the right of an average citizen to own a gun, and;

63% of voters agreed with the Supreme Court's landmark District of Columbia v. Heller decision, saying the Second Amendment granted individuals the right to own a gun for self-defense.
Also released this week were the results of a new Gallup poll (Gallup's annual Crime Poll, conducted October 1-4, 2009). The results of this poll show that a new low of only 44% of Americans who say the laws covering firearm sales should be made stricter. That is down five points in the last year, and 34 points from the high of 78%, recorded the first time the question was asked in 1990.

The Gallup poll also found a new low in the percentage of Americans favoring a ban on handgun possession except by the police and other authorized persons, a question that dates back to 1959. Only 28% now favor such a ban.

The poll states that, "Compared with views in 2000, each major demographic or attitudinal subgroup has shown a shift toward a more pro-gun stance on the question about whether gun laws should be more strict or less strict."

In conclusion, the poll found that, "Americans continue to trend toward holding attitudes that are more in favor of gun rights, and Gallup today finds new low points in favor of gun control on two separate measures dating back at least two decades," and that, "the current poll marks the first time Gallup has not found a significantly higher proportion of Americans preferring tighter gun-sale regulations."

The results of these latest polls make clear—yet again—that more and more Americans overwhelmingly support our Second Amendment rights and lawful gun ownership and reject gun control schemes.

semtex 10-12-2009 07:49 AM

Have you guys heard about the Blair Holt Bill yet? It's H.R. 45. I found out about it when a friend of mine sent me an email going around about a bill that will require us to list all firearms we own on our federal income tax returns beginning next year. Now, according to snopes, this tax return thing is false. A proposal to require gun owners to list their firearms on federal income tax returns was in fact part of Senate Bill 2099, way back in 2000, but it didn't make it through committee. snopes.com: Handgun Safety and Registration Act

But in researching this, I came across Blair Holt. According to the email going around, it has a bunch of insidious provisions, including registry, fingerprinting, submission to physical and mental evaluation. There is a provision stating that you must keep your guns locked up and inaccessible to children under 18, and the government has the right to come and inspect how you're storing your guns. If you're not storing them correctly, you can be fined and imprisoned for up to 5 years.

Now, according to snopes, the part about a federal registry is true. But the part about physical and mental health evaluation is false. You have to certify that you'll keep your firearms inaccessible to anyone under 18, but the part about the government's right of inspection applies to firearms-related business only, not ordinary households. There's still a lot of info to digest though. I recommend looking through the article as well as the actual bill.

Here's the snopes article:
snopes.com: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act

And here's the actual bill:
GovTrack: H.R. 45: Text of Legislation, Introduced in House

NXTAZEE 10-12-2009 11:52 AM

Hey guy's, I'm new to firearms. I'm in the process of getting my restricted so I can purchase a handgun. I'm interested in IPSC/USPSA run and gun shooting. Anyone here practice or compete? Any advice on which gun for production division? I'm looking at the CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow or maybe a Glock. Here is a link to the Shadow Ceska zbrojovka a.s. - CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW

blue660r01 10-14-2009 05:05 PM

Can anyone tell me bout the Beretta 92fs?

http://www.waffennoser.ch/img/beretta_92_fs.jpg

semtex 10-14-2009 05:13 PM

Can you be more specific? What do you want to know about them? I used to own one.

blue660r01 10-14-2009 05:14 PM

How are they? Good guns? Im not sure if I want the 92 or just get the 96 for the .40

dad 10-14-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 236683)
Can anyone tell me bout the Beretta 92fs?

http://www.waffennoser.ch/img/beretta_92_fs.jpg

Nice gun , very reliable in function.
But-Slides were breaking off, if the ammo that was being used had to much power.(but I believe that was just the Military using to strong an ammo). I not sure but Beretta may have corrected that problem, with a stronger slide/updated model.

http://www.thegunzone.com/m9-a.html

blue660r01 10-14-2009 05:29 PM

thanks :D

semtex 10-14-2009 06:30 PM

I recall that I wasn't a big fan of the open slide. It would occasionally pinch my fingers for some reason. Plus after a range session, one can accidentally burn his fingers against the exposed hot barrel. But to be fair, it was a long time ago that I owned one and I was a novice back then. Those issues could have had more to do with ineptitude on my part.

SgtGoldy 11-09-2009 12:31 PM

So I just bought myself a Mossberg 500 Tactical Breacher for patrol. Yea frickin amazing. My camera is broken so Ill post pics once I can, but I found one online so here it is (exactly like mine except I have a redot on it)

http://home.comcast.net/~ssom002/MISC/Mossberg01.JPG

dad 11-09-2009 03:35 PM

^Very good, reliable gun!:tiphat:

SgtGoldy 11-09-2009 04:50 PM

it better be if it might save my life one day lol


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