I've always liked the action on the 686. It's on my list of guns to get, moving it's way to the top. :tiphat:

I also have a Ruger GP100 4" in stainless which I also love. If I had to choose between it and the 686, I would probably go with the S&W since it holds one more round.

There is just something about a wheelgun...and it can't be beat in regard to reliability.

I've been wanting one for years, but I always end up buying autos. Nothing more beautiful than a Smith and Wesson medium or large frame revolver.

I want that Ruger in 327 mag

T&E'ed Surefire's new Warcomp yesterday:


Weapon/ammo used in all videos: 16.1" DDM4 with mid-length gas system, and VLTOR A5 system using standard un-marked Vltor buffer and Vltor standard spring. PMC XTAC M193



Bare Muzzle
Surefire Warcomp
Flash mitigation at night

On this topic. Found out some stuff. Some, if not all was using different loads when we was testing bullet impacts with the cans. So the results that I was looking at was crap. :shakes head: Had a chance to redo this with a couple of the guys using the same loads, and my new Chrono. Impacts had very little change (1/2 MOA at the most), as did the velocity (10~25 on the avg). All of this is on 3 AR15's shooting .223/NATO, and 1 AR10 in .308. The assumption was that I thought the guys all was using the same loads for testing with/without the cans. You know when you assume something. You become the first 3 letters in that word. :icon14: :shakes head:

My latest. Brand new .308 hunting rifle.

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:tup:

Looks like an ASA side cocking top?

:yum:

Sort of. It's proprietary. So as to not be a "variant" of something nasty and to qualify as non-restricted here in Canada. I can acutally hunt with this thing!

Nothing like sorting through 2000 Sierra .224, 69gr. Match King bullets. Each bag is .001" difference in length. Had one bullet at .007", and two bullets at .019". Can you say flyers! :shakes head: Everything else fell in between.

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Why the red thing on the caliper?? I have noticed if I compress a load I deform the tip of the hollow point making the OAL longer. Other times when I don't deform the tip my OAL can still very with the calipers even though my settings never touched. I'd say my loads can range from 2.240-2.258.

And PS I thought I was anal and loading and sorting.

Best way to describe it.

Effects of COAL and CBTO | Part 2 | Berger Bullets Blog

The red thing on the caliber is how you measure the bullet ogive.

If you are compressing your loads to get the AOL, and deforming the bullet tip. You GOT PROBLEMS! I would switch to a faster burning powder that took less to get the velocity you want. Are you using bullets with a cannelure or smooth sided? Also, I gave up on compressed loads. Not worth the trouble. Especially if you are shooting with a semi-auto. Alot of times, the bullet will move out of the case with it being slammed into position by the bolt.

Long time ago. I ran into the same problem you have now with AOL. Found out if I sort through the bullets and group them. I eliminated the problem.

Well the hornadys have a lot of hollow point so to deform the nose isn't hard as its hollow copper. I've even done it if the case isn't 100% smooth with the burs removed or tapering the neck.

If you recall I tried that AA4068 or whatever it was and at 24gr it was up in the neck. Now I picked up RL15 and I can't do 24.9gr which is the max for 2850ftps. At 24.5gr it's a hair lower than the AA at 24gr. So it's a compress ever so lightly. But after testing I think I'm gonna use 24.1gr and hope for 2800 flat.

Hornadys are smooth wall. I've always tested a few at home ejecting the rounds to see if there's any movement and i test again at the range. I'll fire a round off, pull the next round and measure. So far it's been all good. My die seems to do a great job making the neck tight.

Ok after I test these 3 sets of charges with RL15 ill measure all the bullets and sort them before mass production. Then Im guessing I'll have to adjust the die to achieve 2.250 OAL for each set of bullets? Obviously it wouldn't be good to adjust longer rounds as that increase pressures by pushing the bullet down in further?

You still load the bullets to the AOL. But now since you have them sorted out by the ogive. The distance from the ogive to the rifling is now uniform with each batch. I've been told that .003" difference between the ogive length is ok. What I found out with the 2000 bullets I sorted. Had a total difference of .012" in the ogives. Have some batches with less then 100 bullets, and one with over 300 bullets. So I will reload with each batch.

I've got a rather silly question: Why would you want to load to max velocity? I would think that the 'name of the game' is to find out what load is the most accurate (bullet, powder, case, primer) for the weapon you are shooting. Some weapons prefer heavier bullets, some need the lighter ones because of rifling twist, others don't like certain powder/primer combos.

I've been reloading for about 30 years now, and yeah, it's a pain in the backside to build small lots of ammo to test powder/primer/bullet combos. For example, my favorite load for my mini-14 doesn't work as well in a 5.56 AR platform gun, even with the same rifling twist. The mini will shoot 1" to 2" groups at 250 yards, the AR platform gun shoots 4-5" groups at that range with the same ammo. But for what I build ammo for, I'm good with that. I look for retained energy at the range I expect to use a weapon at and build ammo accordingly. Just my take on the subject. :)

Not silly. I would want that because the load manual says I can load that. I have no idea what setup would be the most accurate so I'd want to test basically a low, medium and high charge and after maybe some in between. Since I physically can't do a high charge (no idea how hornady can and I can't) I have to back it all down. These rounds will be used out to 600+ yards so I'd like as much speed as possible. The heavy 75gr bullet will help but I'm trying to get it all. I've only been loading 2-3 years so it's all trial and error. I'm stuck on primers since I have like 5000 and powder goes Awall for 6 months and I can't get what I like. Luckily my gun likes Xtac green tip and I'm up to over 1000 rounds. These rounds for the wife's gun and going long range and still being sorted out. Again I'm stuck with my primers and I like the hornady match 75's so powders still being sorted now. Fingers crossed, others have loved a hornady bthp 75gr with RL15 at 24gr, so I hope we both do too.

This one doesn't go in the Z too often, but she's not a safe queen either. Since you can't buy these outright (outside of military or law enforcement) I had to buy most of the parts and build it myself (following the letter of the law, including all my SBR paperwork). Usually, HK UMPs are .45, but I converted it down to 9mm so that I could use my suppressor on it as well.
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Good times. Trust me.

Same thing with my G36. (except for the 9mm part... this one is 5.56/.223)
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Very nice. :tup:
Especially in 9mm.
9mm UMPs are rare indeed so finding the parts and building one is awesome.

I have an USC and have been debating on converting it and SBR'ing it.

It looks like it says UMP on the receiver.
Did you re-engrave the receiver because it looks like an USC receiver.


G36 is nice too!

How did you get around the 1986 FOPA? Class 3 dealer?
Even if your G36 was converted to semi-auto only it will still be classified as a machine gun.
Is it a clone and not a real G36?

Don't mind me, just curious. :rolleyes:

Yep. Started as a USC, and then had it re-engraved when I SBR'd the frame. In addition to the mods on the USC frame (cutout vents, sights, etc.) it has a UMP pistol grip that has been brought to spec with 922r compliance and a stock block to connect the UMP stock. 9mm barrel, bolt group, extractors, etc. There are a few other mods as well. PM me if you have questions. I would HIGHLY recommend going this route with your USC. Completely changes the firearm to what it was meant to be.

G36 was converted from an HK SL8 (so yes: clone). Had the rear cut off and an original G36 stock block plastic welded on. G36 Grip (converted for compliance and is totally non-auto, despite the markings). Forearm and other G36 hardware/barrel added. SBR'd and Re-engraved. I actually have all three barrel lengths for it that I can switch out G36E, G36K, and G36C (pictured).

I never knew how much I enjoyed gunsmithing and building until I got hooked on these guns and learned that the only way that I would ever own one was if I built it myself. Not trying to brag (too much), but my safes are pretty ridiculous these days with the hardware inside.

To paraphrase a quote from Professor X: "I feel a great swell of pity for anyone who comes to this [house] looking for trouble."

Send me a PM if you want to learn more about the process. I know a lot of good people who can help you gather the parts and do the custom work along the way.

Nice touch on the UMP engraving. :tup:

Seeing your build has reignited my interest in converted mine.
Found this on hkparts.net :excited:
ACR stock
Never wanted the standard UMP stock.
They also have the UMP lower I want and UMP mags fully made in the US too. :yum:
UMP FBI Lower
UMP 45 Magazine

Damn, the nicest conversion I've ever seen!! Looks like the real thing.
Most SL8 conversions I've seen look fugly :eekdance:

Thanks!
Might PM you later to make sure I'm on the right track.

Your house isn't the only one. ;)

Scott, some more reading for you too. ;)

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Needed a better summer CCW. The sig sp2022 was just to big with my small frame and a tee shirt. I didn't want a S&W but I shot the best with it! Came with a 7 and 8 round mag. Time for a holster now.

S&W 9 shield

That's what my wife carries. A 9mm Shield.

My newest home defense tool.


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Mossberg 590 Persuader 20"

Bought a S&W .40 shield as a daily concealed carry on gun today.
First time to fire a .40 ...once delivered off to the firing range for break in.

I miss my Glock mod.#20, 10mm/ got it in 1992,,,everybody else had a 45 & i wanted something different...I was mid 20's then;so the recoil was ok...i liked the 175 Winchester silver tips 175gr.1300fps,,,could get rather expensive going shooting on aregular basis.
was married,got in a bind & sold it to a friend...tried to buy it back about 2 month's later & he had already traded it.
next one will be a 9 or .40(10mm short) don't want that much recoil.
You guy's have a Great Sunday!

This is what I carry in my .40 for CC.

Hornady Critical Defense Ammo 40 S&W 165 Grain Flex Tip eXpanding Box

The 10mm is making a come back. When it first came out. There was only 2 pistols chambered for it. The Bren Ten, and the Colt Delta Elite. I wanted the Colt, buy couldn't afford to buy it at the time. :( Think now there is about 6~7 pistols chambered for it.

Thanks Rusty. Its currently back ordered but will purchase once available.

What nice holster for a S&W .40? Any link recommendation?

I use one of these when I wear a long shirt, or jacket.

FLETCH HIGH RIDE BELT HOLSTER: Holsters & Ammo Carriers: Belt Holsters at Galco

Tee shirt hanging out. Stuffed in the middle of my back, inside the pants. I use a left handed holster for this.

Uncle Mike's - The Leader in Shooting Accessories

Also have these tee shirts. They run small in size. So you have to get a size larger, maybe 2 sizes larger. They're tight. Also I have to wear a cotton tee shirt under them. The seams are a bit itchy.

Amazon.com: 5.11 Tactical S/S Holster Shirt: Sports & Outdoors

My wife uses these.

http://www.amazon.com/Hip-Hugger-Cla.../dp/B00EP0ZVH8

Amazon.com : Women's Concealment Shorts by UnderTech Undercover (2X, Black) : Beauty

This is a cool holster. Belly band
https://www.daltechforce.com/belly-band-holsters

2 by 2...hands of blue

My simple, yet effective offering....

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And soon to have one of those M7 bayonets.

I just got this for $40. If it fits me and doesnt show and i forgot i was carrying after 15min i say it's good!

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Neat. I've been getting kinda slack in the CCW department and just shoving it into my pocket.

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Where did you buy that syno? Thats neat.

Field and stream but blackhawk can be bought anywhere.

Back side

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Don't bother. They fall off when you fire the weapon, lol

Use 7 1/2 shot for the rounds, if it's going to be home defense. Anything larger and you run the risk of pellets hitting someone they shouldn't in another room or in another house....