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dad 07-11-2011 06:57 PM
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tvfreakazoid 07-12-2011 04:26 AM
Hey thanks for the info.
I read a lot of people loving the glocks. My one big issues with glocks is like you said UGLY, uninspiring and more. I mean come on who is designing the pistol. Some old fart. I get it that they are good and reliable but does it have to be soOoooooo boring!

I may get a boring glock because of it's reliability, but i like the way the xdms look. There suppose to be the better version of the reg. xds.

I have to agree with you when a dealer tries hard to push a certain brand.

Please let us know how the firearms course goes. I really would like to know how the XDm performs.

Thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1210375)
Personally, I use a Sig P229 .40 cal. It's a German model I bought it 1996. It is a fantastic pistol. It has probably about 15,000 round through it. Virtually no wear on any of the mating surfaces. All I've ever had to do to it is replace a few springs. The newer Sigs, while the same form factor, have some serious quality and design problems. Grips and grip screws are a nightmare, weak or failure-prone recoil springs, hammer failures, excessive slide wear, broken extractors, broken trigger bars, crappy magazines....this stuff all related to me by a buddy who's a Sig armorer for the Sheriff's department. They recently went back to issuing Glocks because it was getting to be a hassle keeping Sig replacement parts on hand.

For a game gun, I use a S&W M&P 9L. It's an OK pistol. I replaced the sear and striker along with a reset-assist device and that took that trigger from "marginal" to "really excellent". It's been reliable for me...I can't think of any failures. I use it in 9mm because that ammo is cheap and low recoil. It's been a good competition pistol for me and I like the 23 round magazines. Having said that, I don't think I'd use the M&P as a carry-weapon or duty-weapon.

If my P229 exploded tomorrow, I'd replace it in .40 with an H&K P30. If I couldn't get the P30, I would reluctantly get a Glock 23. "Reluctant" only because I find the Glocks to be ugly, uninspired weapons. From a standpoint of reliability and accuracy, they are excellent and I wouldn't hesitate to trust my life to one.

As to the XD/XDm, my business partner has an XDm and he really likes it a lot. AFAIK, it's been reliable for him. He's had some trouble finding holsters that work well with it, but otherwise he's had no complaints. We both have a firearms course coming up on the 21st, and then a two day 1000-round course with Louis Awerbuck in August. Those two events ought to represent a good opportunity to find any weak spots that particular pistol. As I mentioned earlier, the XDs are generally regarded as only being "OK" among the people I shoot a lot with. I will say that one reason I see for any scorn the XD's might get appears to be more related to the way they are so often pushed by gun store owners. They have a higher margin in the XDs for some reason and they are readily available, so they get blindly pushed without regard for any drawback they might have. As a group, gun shop owners are probably one of the single worst sources of good advice on firearms. When they start pushing a brand as intensely as they tend to push the XD's, knowledgeable firearms enthusiasts become very suspicious.

m4a1mustang 07-12-2011 07:22 AM
I feel like the "ugly" look of the Glock is one of it's best features. It's not designed to be a pretty gun though I think the Compacts and Subcompacts look good in their own special way... the full-size G17 reminds me of a duck for some reason. It's just designed to go bang ever time and never make a fuss about it. It's a tool, not a work of art.

ImportConvert 07-15-2011 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1213230)
I feel like the "ugly" look of the Glock is one of it's best features. It's not designed to be a pretty gun though I think the Compacts and Subcompacts look good in their own special way... the full-size G17 reminds me of a duck for some reason. It's just designed to go bang ever time and never make a fuss about it. It's a tool, not a work of art.
Love my Glocks. I have had custom 1911's, HK's, SIGs, and all sorts of stuff fail to go bang. Never a Glock.

m4a1mustang 07-15-2011 08:11 AM
I had one FTF in my G26 at the range last weekend but it was a defective shell on the Remington UMC ammo I was using. Reminded me I always need to inspect each bullet closely when I load up with my carry ammo. :facepalm:

SgtGoldy 07-16-2011 12:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1217287)
I had one FTF in my G26 at the range last weekend but it was a defective shell on the Remington UMC ammo I was using. Reminded me I always need to inspect each bullet closely when I load up with my carry ammo. :facepalm:
Speaking of ammo, I started strongly considering reloading. Just bought 500rds of Federal .45acp. $203.00 later, I thought "screw this, Ima reload these".

Isamu 07-16-2011 01:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtGoldy (Post 1218570)
Speaking of ammo, I started strongly considering reloading. Just bought 500rds of Federal .45acp. $203.00 later, I thought "screw this, Ima reload these".
you know, when I was in Africa, the little kids, would come police our brass... and resell it to someone local... we were told not to pick up the brass.. lol

frost 07-16-2011 07:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtGoldy (Post 1218570)
Speaking of ammo, I started strongly considering reloading. Just bought 500rds of Federal .45acp. $203.00 later, I thought "screw this, Ima reload these".
We were told to stop shooting at "shooters world" today for our reloads having too much smoke :roflpuke2:
Fuckin indoor ranges.

frost 07-16-2011 07:46 PM
So, has anyone shot with their non-dominant hand? If so, I have a quick question, do you continue to use your dominant eye, or do you switch to your non-dominant eye along with your hand? Or are there any other tips you have for shooting with non-dominant hand?

I only ask because I obtained my NRA/Winchester marksman and pro-marksman, and the next step is marksman first class, which requires shooting with non-dominant hand.

Baer383 07-16-2011 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frost (Post 1219248)
So, has anyone shot with their non-dominant hand? If so, I have a quick question, do you continue to use your dominant eye, or do you switch to your non-dominant eye along with your hand? Or are there any other tips you have for shooting with non-dominant hand?

I only ask because I obtained my NRA/Winchester marksman and pro-marksman, and the next step is marksman first class, which requires shooting with non-dominant hand.
I use the same eye whether left or right handed.

MacCool 07-16-2011 09:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frost (Post 1219246)
We were told to stop shooting at "shooters world" today for our reloads having too much smoke :roflpuke2:
Fuckin indoor ranges.
Most indoor ranges make a lot of money by selling ammo. They're incented to restrict the ammo that shooters bring in to their range.

SgtGoldy 07-16-2011 09:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frost (Post 1219248)
So, has anyone shot with their non-dominant hand? If so, I have a quick question, do you continue to use your dominant eye, or do you switch to your non-dominant eye along with your hand? Or are there any other tips you have for shooting with non-dominant hand?

I only ask because I obtained my NRA/Winchester marksman and pro-marksman, and the next step is marksman first class, which requires shooting with non-dominant hand.
In the police academy we were taught to use our dominant eye. i.e. your strong arm is wounded so you transfer to ur weak and continue.

I can do alrite with my weak hand, but its not something I practice regularly... I prolly should

SgtGoldy 07-16-2011 09:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frost (Post 1219246)
We were told to stop shooting at "shooters world" today for our reloads having too much smoke :roflpuke2:
Fuckin indoor ranges.
yea, I've heard of that happening. I'm sure a lot of it is like what Baer said about wanting you to buy their ammo. But also being indoors, you dont have the best ventilation lol

frost 07-17-2011 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1219255)
I use the same eye whether left or right handed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtGoldy (Post 1219320)
In the police academy we were taught to use our dominant eye. i.e. your strong arm is wounded so you transfer to ur weak and continue.

I can do alrite with my weak hand, but its not something I practice regularly... I prolly should
:tiphat: Thanks!

frost 07-17-2011 11:21 AM
Probably the worst idea I've seen in the past couple months:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHuspFAWDsU

kdo2milger 07-17-2011 12:28 PM
lmao to that!!!^^^

she deserved it...dude told da biatch not to mess with it but she didnt listen...

frost 07-17-2011 05:13 PM
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...do/Shot201.jpg

Quote:
So the wife and I are in my car and some people next to us start yelling some dumb ****. I said what the lick ever and drove off as the light turned green. These ***** pulled out like it was a race and tried to run us off the road. I pulled up my gun to deal with what was happening and the wife freaked out, yelled NO, grabbed the gun pushing it down, and her finger caught the trigger hitting me in the leg. She starts crying like crazy and I'm laughing telling her its okay as I drive to the hospital. I thought it only grazed my until I saw blood bubbling up in my jeans. I gotta say, I always wondered what a .40 Hydroshock could do but not like this. It didn't hurt until today. Sore as ****. Cops had to come to the hospital and make a report. They found it as funny as I did. So now I have a cane until this heals. Thats the beef of the story. As for the other car, they sped off when they heard the shot so maybe in some wierd way they may realize that playing bumper cars is a bad idea. If the wife hadn't been there I may not be writing this.

I took this from another forum. Stupid idiot husband shouldn't have pulled his gun for that, and the stupid idiot wife should never have grabbed a gun.

Trips 07-17-2011 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by frost (Post 1219859)
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...do/Shot201.jpg




I took this from another forum. Stupid idiot husband shouldn't have pulled his gun for that, and the stupid idiot wife should never have grabbed a gun.
:iagree:

But they are the perfect couple :facepalm:

m4a1mustang 07-17-2011 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frost (Post 1219859)
I took this from another forum. Stupid idiot husband shouldn't have pulled his gun for that, and the stupid idiot wife should never have grabbed a gun.
:iagree:

For some reason the crying wife reminds me of all of those whiny women in movies that scream and whine in situations where they just need to sftu. I am particularly reminded of that stupid girl (Dakota Fanning) in War of the Worlds where she screams incessantly in the car. God I wanted her to stfu so bad. :mad:

In other news, I now need to stop allowing my gf to come to the range with me. her groupings are getting too good. :bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 07-17-2011 07:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtGoldy (Post 1218570)
Speaking of ammo, I started strongly considering reloading. Just bought 500rds of Federal .45acp. $203.00 later, I thought "screw this, Ima reload these".
I think if I was shooting that stuff I might consider reloading myself. But since I just shoot 9mm it's probably not that cost effective to spend the time doing it myself. I picked up 20 boxes of Federal FMJ at Wally World today for $11.49 a box... not too bad. Though it does appear that prices have gone up a bit... Probably can save a bit of money by ordering online now.

Oh, tried some new stuff in the 870 today: Centurion 1 1/8 oz rifled slugs and RIO Royal 00 Buck Low Recoil.

The Centurion slugs are nice. They fly nice and straight (out to 50 yds... indoor range), fire fairly cleanly, and are relatively cheap. They are $15.95 for a box of 50 from SGAmmo.com. I ordered 250 more rounds of tonight... I like 'em! The only thing I noticed is that they seem to run just a hair longer than 2 3/4" which means I can only load the tube with 5 shells instead of 6... that's not a big deal for bulk range slugs, though.

The RIO Buck wasn't that bad. A little bit less of a punch compared to the Remington 2 3/4" 00 Buck I was shooting before but man does it stink and fire pretty dirty. I want to say they were about $22 for 50 so its not too bad, but buck is not really much fun to shoot at the range IMO so I doubt I'll order any more of this stuff. I did order some Sellier & Bellot 00 and #4 to try, though.

dad 07-18-2011 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1197730)
Springfield is reputed to be "OK". Sig...they aren't really the company they used to be. Since manufacturing and design for the US market has been taken over by SigArms, QA has become problematic. The German Sigs are still top notch...US-made Sigs, not so much. I've had my P229 since 1996. It's seen an exceptional pistol and utterly reliable. I wouldn't buy a Sig these days, though. I see heaps of armorer frustration in the law enforcement market with the current versions of Sig's pistols.
Is yours made in Germany or the USA?

Isamu 07-19-2011 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dad (Post 1221066)
Is yours made in Germany or the USA?
i would love to get a german made sig

MacCool 07-20-2011 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dad (Post 1221066)
Is yours made in Germany or the USA?
For the US-import P229s prior to about 2005, the frames were made in Germany and the slides were milled from stainless steel in the US. The current US versions are now completely made in Exeter at SigArms. The problems that I keep hearing are with the US-made frames, not the slides. Mainly assembly, quality control, and quality of component frame parts...especially springs, hammers, trigger bars, and grips. One problem my buddy has seen lately has been failure of the pin that pins the breech block to the slide. The German-made Sigs use a solid pin, SigArms now uses a roll pin that is prone to loosening, he says.

My P229 is the original German version.

m4a1mustang 07-20-2011 02:32 PM
I have a fun project this weekend... making discreet rifle cases and range bags.

dad 07-20-2011 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1222002)
For the US-import P229s prior to about 2005, the frames were made in Germany and the slides were milled from stainless steel in the US. The current US versions are now completely made in Exeter at SigArms. The problems that I keep hearing are with the US-made frames, not the slides. Mainly assembly, quality control, and quality of component frame parts...especially springs, hammers, trigger bars, and grips. One problem my buddy has seen lately has been failure of the pin that pins the breech block to the slide. The German-made Sigs use a solid pin, SigArms now uses a roll pin that is prone to loosening, he says.

My P229 is the original German version.
I never gave any thought to it before, I had to get mine out and look! Slide stamped, MADE IN W. GERMANY. The frame has no markings, but the serial number.

MacCool 07-20-2011 09:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dad (Post 1222136)
I never gave any thought to it before, I had to get mine out and look! Slide stamped, MADE IN W. GERMANY. The frame has no markings, but the serial number.
There ya go. Hang on to that one.

dad 07-20-2011 11:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1222705)
There ya go. Hang on to that one.
Made in the year KF;)! (can they make those letters any smaller)

Isamu 07-21-2011 02:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dad (Post 1222136)
I never gave any thought to it before, I had to get mine out and look! Slide stamped, MADE IN W. GERMANY. The frame has no markings, but the serial number.
so jealous!

m4a1mustang 07-29-2011 07:29 PM
Went to the opening day of the Nation's Gun Show today. Lots of cool stuff. I picked up two of the 31 round magazines and two 10 round mags for my G26. They are all factory glock magazines. The big ones should be a lot of fun on the range. Also picked up some 9mm NATO to try and some 7mm Mauser.

They had some nice stuff there... really wanted to buy another pistol, and the ARs are very tempting.

SgtGoldy 07-29-2011 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1236928)
Went to the opening day of the Nation's Gun Show today. Lots of cool stuff. I picked up two of the 31 round magazines and two 10 round mags for my G26. They are all factory glock magazines. The big ones should be a lot of fun on the range. Also picked up some 9mm NATO to try and some 7mm Mauser.

They had some nice stuff there... really wanted to buy another pistol, and the ARs are very tempting.
Man, sounds fun. I wouldn't mind going to that. Only prob is I would leave with nothing left in my bank lol

370zproject 08-01-2011 09:23 AM
im want a springfield xd now :)

Red__Zed 08-01-2011 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 1239356)
im want a springfield xd now :)
I love both of mine.


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tvfreakazoid 08-01-2011 10:11 PM
how was the firearm course with the xdm? Or have you not gone yet?


Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1210375)
Personally, I use a Sig P229 .40 cal. It's a German model I bought it 1996. It is a fantastic pistol. It has probably about 15,000 round through it. Virtually no wear on any of the mating surfaces. All I've ever had to do to it is replace a few springs. The newer Sigs, while the same form factor, have some serious quality and design problems. Grips and grip screws are a nightmare, weak or failure-prone recoil springs, hammer failures, excessive slide wear, broken extractors, broken trigger bars, crappy magazines....this stuff all related to me by a buddy who's a Sig armorer for the Sheriff's department. They recently went back to issuing Glocks because it was getting to be a hassle keeping Sig replacement parts on hand.

For a game gun, I use a S&W M&P 9L. It's an OK pistol. I replaced the sear and striker along with a reset-assist device and that took that trigger from "marginal" to "really excellent". It's been reliable for me...I can't think of any failures. I use it in 9mm because that ammo is cheap and low recoil. It's been a good competition pistol for me and I like the 23 round magazines. Having said that, I don't think I'd use the M&P as a carry-weapon or duty-weapon.

If my P229 exploded tomorrow, I'd replace it in .40 with an H&K P30. If I couldn't get the P30, I would reluctantly get a Glock 23. "Reluctant" only because I find the Glocks to be ugly, uninspired weapons. From a standpoint of reliability and accuracy, they are excellent and I wouldn't hesitate to trust my life to one.

As to the XD/XDm, my business partner has an XDm and he really likes it a lot. AFAIK, it's been reliable for him. He's had some trouble finding holsters that work well with it, but otherwise he's had no complaints. We both have a firearms course coming up on the 21st, and then a two day 1000-round course with Louis Awerbuck in August. Those two events ought to represent a good opportunity to find any weak spots that particular pistol. As I mentioned earlier, the XDs are generally regarded as only being "OK" among the people I shoot a lot with. I will say that one reason I see for any scorn the XD's might get appears to be more related to the way they are so often pushed by gun store owners. They have a higher margin in the XDs for some reason and they are readily available, so they get blindly pushed without regard for any drawback they might have. As a group, gun shop owners are probably one of the single worst sources of good advice on firearms. When they start pushing a brand as intensely as they tend to push the XD's, knowledgeable firearms enthusiasts become very suspicious.

ImportConvert 08-02-2011 01:12 AM
Well, custom 357SIG P226 Elite ST (all stainless) project is complete...
http://i53.tinypic.com/jl770y.jpg
-P226 Elite ST in 357SIG
-Trigger work by GGI in Spray, OR
-QP/QPQ (similar to Glock's) finish/metal treatment, hence the "black" color on stainless
-Stainless QPQ guiderod
-Titanium safety block
-Aluminum hammer strut support
-Hogue G10 grips
-Meprolite sights pulled, Trijicon's installed. I have a preference.
-SIG Combat takedown lever installed (much tougher. I could tell you the steel used, but it is proprietary info. Nothing "special", but it's tough as shat and they requested I keep to myself).
-Touched by Torie (no-longer with GGI)



Benelli M4S90 "922r legal" project is complete...
http://i56.tinypic.com/b5mhhe.jpg
-Benelli M4S90
-Surefire M80 rail
-Leupold QRW 1" ring for flashlight
-Surefire 6P done in IIIA and with a McClicky switch with a 550 lumen XM-L 4k tint custom-made drop-in.
-Geissele hammer
-Ti magazine tube
-Custom follower and spring
-Collapsible OEM stock
-True 1913 spec rail without center relief, custom
-Tango-Down stubby
-Ti/A2 steel hybrid bolt-handle

I have long had my uber-reliable Glock 19 with factory Trijicons, nothing special there.

It's time for a sickhouse M4gery project. Stay tuned for WINNING!

(Noveske/Trijicon/Other goodies planned)

Over-all, I have a philosophy on firearms: Buy once, cry once. Buy the best--FOR YOUR GOALS AND INTENDED USAGE. If you can't buy it, make it or find someone who can (custom rail and bolt-handle on M4S90). If it won't run, fix it, and get a failure analysis/understanding of WHY. Wilson Combat could not satisfy my requirements for neither workmanship, nor function. I used to own a Wilson Combat Tactical Supergrade 5" 1911, and a Les Baer hard chrome TRS. Neither was reliable, nor could a failure analysis/fix be enacted, and both showed shoddy craftsmanship. They both left my stable, and 1911's are something I wish only on my enemies.

Isamu 08-02-2011 01:18 AM
Import, is your real name Scott?

ImportConvert 08-02-2011 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1240992)
Import, is your real name Scott?
No, I go by "Jon" in person.

Isamu 08-02-2011 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1240994)
No, I go by "Jon" in person.
ahh damn, I thought maybe you were a dude I used to know...

ImportConvert 08-02-2011 01:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1241005)
ahh damn, I thought maybe you were a dude I used to know...
I am guessing he is probably military based on your location. No affiliation.

Isamu 08-02-2011 02:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1241012)
I am guessing he is probably military based on your location. No affiliation.
no sir. just had VERY similar firearms... lol
and acts VERY much like you!:tup:

Majorwoody 08-02-2011 02:13 AM
A couple of my toyz:
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...n/IMG_3384.jpg
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...220fan/010.jpg
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...220fan/006.jpg
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...n/IMG_3347.jpg


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