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VABAM 11-30-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3973885)
It's more of a case of people that lack the 'hand-eye coordination' to fire a revolver. They are also the ones that put a laser on their Glock and can't hit a silhouette target at 15'. :icon14::icon14: Those that say 'I've been shooting a revolver for years...' are usually full of chit, they can barely put rounds on target. I'm almost convinced that FB is inhabited by fools, morons and drama queens. .........

Thumb position on revolvers is more of a knowledge issue than a hand eye coordination issue IMO. One thing I think is not helping is all the tacticool/tactical elitist YouTubers, forum posters, article writers, etc. hyper focused on AR-15s, AKs, Glocks and other main stream "tactical" firearms. It's a good thing that all there is a lot of info out there about using guns for self defense and fighting for our 2A rights but I think hobby side of guns is starting to be hurt by it.

I agree, hand eye coordination does play apart in not hitting the target but also the lack of knowledge doesn't help. How to use the sights right, press the trigger properly, proper grip, not anticipating the shoot, not jerking the trigger, etc. are all things that need to be learned. Unfortunately a lot of people can't be bothered or willing to learn.

I agree there is a lot of fools, morons and drama queens on FB but it serves a purpose for me.

VABAM 11-30-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3973902)
I've done a lot of shooting at night. If you're reloading. A fast burning powder helps with the night time flash. A slow burning powder will give you a big flash. As it is still burning outside the barrel.

Oh I know the difference between fast and slow burning powders. :rolleyes::rofl2:
I only use factory loads in my 50 DE at the moment. It's a toy and it is not worth it yet to reload for it but I definitely have been saving my brass for it. Awhile back I stumbled upon standard 50AE Hornady Custom ammo for very cheap in a gun store I happened to visit. It was almost half the cost of the cheapest on line price I could find so I bought as much as I could. Still working through it. ;)

VABAM 11-30-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3973901)
You can spend a fortune on good glass. :eek:

No kidding that's why I want to sell them. I have no use for them and I need funds for another project. ;)

Ghostvette 11-30-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3973912)
Oh I know the difference between fast and slow burning powders. :rolleyes::rofl2:
I only use factory loads in my 50 DE at the moment. It's a toy and it is not worth it yet to reload for it but I definitely have been saving my brass for it. Awhile back I stumbled upon standard 50AE Hornady Custom ammo for very cheap in a gun store I happened to visit. It was almost half the cost of the cheapest on line price I could find so I bought as much as I could. Still working through it. ;)

Kind of like owning a 44 AutoMag. I shot one and enjoyed it. :tup:

Then I started checking out the ammo situation. The only company making it at that time was Norma and it was way beyond my E5 budget.... :eekdance:

Then I looked at reloading for it... step one: Cut down .308 brass to make case... Oh fvck no.... I need my .308 brass...... :gtfo2:

VABAM 11-30-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3973888)
The first time I shot a revolver for real was at the police academy. ........

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3973892)
My first hand gun was a Colt Trooper Mark3 357. ........

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3973885)
.......I grew up on revolvers, my first gun was a 6" Ruger Security Six ......

I didn't grow up with revolvers but I did shoot a few before I was old enough to buy my own. My .357 Mag Taurus 608 was my first revolver, third pistol overall. A Ruger Red Hawk Hunter in .44 Mag was next. My Ruger Bisley Black Hawk in 45 ACP/45 Colt is my only other revolver. Looking to get more. A 22lr revolver probably will be next.

For S&Gs I've been working on shooting and reloading my Black Hawk quickly so I can open carry it. The thought how butt hurt some tactical elitist would get about that makes me chuckle. :p

VABAM 11-30-2020 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3973920)
.......Then I looked at reloading for it... step one: Cut down .308 brass to make case... Oh fvck no.... I need my .308 brass...... :gtfo2:

:icon18::icon18::icon18:

Ghostvette 11-30-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3973921)
I didn't grow up with revolvers but I did shoot a few before I was old enough to buy my own. My .357 Mag Taurus 608 was my first revolver, third pistol overall. A Ruger Red Hawk Hunter in .44 Mag was next. My Ruger Bisley Black Hawk in 45 ACP/45 Colt is my only other revolver. Looking to get more. A 22lr revolver probably will be next.

For S&Gs I've been working on shooting and reloading my Black Hawk quickly so I can open carry it. The thought how butt hurt some tactical elitist would get about that makes me chuckle. :p

I've got a RedHawk in 41 Mag, I love that gun. :tup: I sold my Security Six (dumb thing to do, but needed the $$), I've got a couple of 4" Stainless Security Sixes, had a Model 10 Smith heavy barrel I sold (got it in trade for a 69 Camaro. That Camaro was rough), and found a Ruger 3 screw Blackhawk that is has not been changed to a transfer bar system. It was in pieces, but everything was there. I had a gunsmith assemble it and verify that it shot properly. The bluing is worn but he said it would be worth more as is. :tup:

Hotrodz 11-30-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3973901)
You can spend a fortune on good glass. :eek:

I remember the first time I looked through a pair of Zeiss binoculars and spotting scopes. I was blown away!

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VABAM 11-30-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3973927)
I've got a RedHawk in 41 Mag, I love that gun. :tup: I sold my Security Six (dumb thing to do, but needed the $$), I've got a couple of 4" Stainless Security Sixes, had a Model 10 Smith heavy barrel I sold (got it in trade for a 69 Camaro. That Camaro was rough), and found a Ruger 3 screw Blackhawk that is has not been changed to a transfer bar system. It was in pieces, but everything was there. I had a gunsmith assemble it and verify that it shot properly. The bluing is worn but he said it would be worth more as is. :tup:

I've only sold one gun ever and that was a first gen Walther P99 with a OD green frame. Wished I had held on to that one.

That 3 screw BlackHawk was a nice find. Definitely something to hold onto and not mess with. When I was looking for a BlackHawk I read up on all that. I probably buy another SA revolver at some point. Most likely another Ruger Bisley. I really like how the Ruger Bisley grip feels and looks.

Ghostvette 11-30-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3973933)
I've only sold one gun ever and that was a first gen Walther P99 with a OD green frame. Wished I had held on to that one.

That 3 screw BlackHawk was a nice find. Definitely something to hold onto and not mess with. When I was looking for a BlackHawk I read up on all that. I probably buy another SA revolver at some point. Most likely another Ruger Bisley. I really like how the Ruger Bisley grip feels and looks.

The Bisley grip is similar to the Colt SAA grips, same principle. If only the SAA's weren't so damn expensive.... :rolleyes: The difference in price between the SAA and the Bisley makes the Bisley attractive. :tup:

Hotrodz 11-30-2020 12:28 PM

Guns are like gold...you should never sell them. Ask me how I know!

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VABAM 11-30-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3973932)
I remember the first time I looked through a pair of Zeiss binoculars and spotting scopes. I was blown away!

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Good glass ain't cheap. BUT, I will say this, the budget options are getting a lot better. Especially in the past few years.

VABAM 11-30-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3973936)
Guns are like gold...you should never sell them. Ask me how I know!

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:iagree::iagree::iagree:

Selling that P99 was such a mistake. :shakes head:

VABAM 11-30-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3973935)
The Bisley grip is similar to the Colt SAA grips, same principle. If only the SAA's weren't so damn expensive.... :rolleyes: The difference in price between the SAA and the Bisley makes the Bisley attractive. :tup:

I thought the current Ruger BlackHawk grips (and frames) were bigger in general than a Colt SAA. The Super and Bisley BlackHawk being even bigger. It was also my understanding that the current Ruger Vaquero was the closest in size to a Colt SAA.

Before I bought my Bisley I went to a couple of gun shows and tried the grips of every single action I could find. The Ruger Bisley definitely felt bigger and my pinky finger didn't feel like it was falling of the end of the grip.

Ghostvette 11-30-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3973945)
I thought the current Ruger BlackHawk grips (and frames) were bigger in general than a Colt SAA. The Super and Bisley BlackHawk being even bigger. It was also my understanding that the current Ruger Vaquero was the closest in size to a Colt SAA.

Before I bought my Bisley I went to a couple of gun shows and tried the grips of every single action I could find. The Ruger Bisley definitely felt bigger and my pinky finger didn't feel like it was falling of the end of the grip.

I don't know about the current ones, I just remember when the Bisley first came out, the grips felt the same to me as the SAA. Maybe Ruger has made them a little larger over the years. Who knows. I liked the way the revolver rotated up in my hand, making it a lot easier to thumb the hammer back. I didn't have to shuffle my grip like on some other revolvers.

VABAM 11-30-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3973952)
I don't know about the current ones, I just remember when the Bisley first came out, the grips felt the same to me as the SAA. Maybe Ruger has made them a little larger over the years. Who knows. I liked the way the revolver rotated up in my hand, making it a lot easier to thumb the hammer back. I didn't have to shuffle my grip like on some other revolvers.

Like you I like how it is easier to thumb back the hammer on the Bisleys. Especially when shooting one handed. Part of it has to do with the "Bisley" hammer that come with the Bisley models. Also felt recoil feels less with Bisleys IMO.

I guess we were both wrong. GunBlast has a whole article devoted to Ruger SA revolver frames/grips.

GunBlast.com Ruger SA GripFrames

Ruger's XR3 grip frame is the same size as the Colt SAA.

https://external-content.duckduckgo....jpg&f=1&nofb=1

VABAM 11-30-2020 04:12 PM

Other :eekdance: recall.
This time from Sig.
Sig is recalling the CROSS Rifle.
https://www.sigsauer.com/crossrecall

Nutnfancy found the issue and reported it to SIG. TGC talked about it to day. The segment about what is happening starts at the 2:48 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9Sb58hSogA

Rusty 12-05-2020 05:21 AM

Been messing around with the new rifle. The Timney trigger, hand grip, and magazine release extension came in today. So I installed that stuff. The trigger is a 2 stage. The 1st stage is set at 8oz, the 2nd stage breaks at 1lb. When you squeeze the trigger, it's like breaking a glass rod. Nice and crisp.

Waiting on the scope rings, reloading dies, and the solvent trap can.

jwick 12-05-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3974883)
Been messing around with the new rifle. The Timney trigger, hand grip, and magazine release extension came in today. So I installed that stuff. The trigger is a 2 stage. The 1st stage is set at 8oz, the 2nd stage breaks at 1lb. When you squeeze the trigger, it's like breaking a glass rod. Nice and crisp.

Waiting on the scope rings, reloading dies, and the solvent trap can.


I’ve been considering a Timney for a while. Just can’t decide if I like a two stage or not.

ZeeingAround 12-05-2020 03:58 PM

I just ordered a CMT trigger to try. Single stage. BF deal. For my AR build.
In other news, my Uncle on my wife's side has an unfired Ruger SR1911 For sale. $600. Seems fair , but i have never owned or fired a Ruger 1911. Anyone here have one?

Rusty 12-05-2020 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3974901)
I’ve been considering a Timney for a while. Just can’t decide if I like a two stage or not.

I have a single stage Timney in my AR. Love it. :tup:

jwick 12-05-2020 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3974954)
I have a single stage Timney in my AR. Love it. :tup:


I love the trigger in my 308 but I have the one that has the safety recall. I figure it’s better for me to buy a new trigger rather than send it back to Remington.

Rusty 12-05-2020 06:47 PM

I scored 2 lbs of Hodgson H1000 powder today. :tup: Local gun shop just powder in yesterday. :tup: Reloading 100 rounds of 338 LM takes about 1.25 lbs of powder.

VABAM 12-05-2020 07:39 PM

I prefer single stage triggers but have nothing against 2 stage triggers.
Got a Wilson Combat TTU 4lb single stage in one of my ARs. I like it a lot.
Also have Geissele Super Sabras with the Lightning Bow trigger in my Tavors. Gives my Tavors a pretty solid 2 stage feel even though they are bullpups.

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3974985)
I love the trigger in my 308 but I have the one that has the safety recall. I figure it’s better for me to buy a new trigger rather than send it back to Remington.

At least it isn’t the trigger Sig has in the Cross. :eekdance:

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3974988)
I scored 2 lbs of Hodgson H1000 powder today. :tup: Local gun shop just powder in yesterday. :tup: Reloading 100 rounds of 338 LM takes about 1.25 lbs of powder.

Dang those are some thirsty rounds. :rofl2:
At least you were able to find some powder.

jwick 12-05-2020 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3974988)
I scored 2 lbs of Hodgson H1000 powder today. :tup: Local gun shop just powder in yesterday. :tup: Reloading 100 rounds of 338 LM takes about 1.25 lbs of powder.


If you can reload my hunting rounds I’d be real cool with that.

Rusty 12-05-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3975011)
I prefer single stage triggers but have nothing against 2 stage triggers.
Got a Wilson Combat TTU 4lb single stage in one of my ARs. I like it a lot.
Also have Geissele Super Sabras with the Lightning Bow trigger in my Tavors. Gives my Tavors a pretty solid 2 stage feel even though they are bullpups.



At least it isn’t the trigger Sig has in the Cross. :eekdance:



Dang those are some thirsty rounds. :rofl2:
At least you were able to find some powder.

Roughly 90 gr of powder for a Hornady 285 match bullet.

Rusty 12-05-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3975013)
If you can reload my hunting rounds I’d be real cool with that.

What you got?

jwick 12-06-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3975016)
What you got?


Not much. Just the spent casing.

This is what I use.

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/winc...a-p-58891.aspx

Rusty 12-06-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3975073)
Not much. Just the spent casing.

This is what I use.

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/winc...a-p-58891.aspx

308? I have 100 rounds of 308 sitting on the shelve right now. Fresh never shot Lapau brass, Sierra 175gr Match bullets, with CCI primers, loaded with 47.0 gr of IMR 4350. The cases are fully prepped with the flash hole uniformed, primer pockets cut, the the necks turned. Distance friend wanted it, and we agreed on the price I bought everything and loaded it. The friend ghosted me. :shakes head: So it's been here sitting. The brass alone is $85.00.


For 308 bullets sitting on the shelve.
Nosler 165 Acccubond
Sierra 150 BT Spitzer
Sierra 165 BT Spitzer
Sierra 175 Match

Rusty 12-06-2020 04:07 PM

My solvent trap from Form 1 Builder came today. :tup: It's 1.75"x10". I got it with a 1/2" and 5/8" threaded end caps so that I can use it on .22 up to .30 cal.

VABAM 12-06-2020 06:17 PM

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Rusty 12-08-2020 05:30 PM

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Assault Rifle of the 1800's.

VABAM 12-08-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3975510)
Assault Rifle of the 1800's.

:tup:

If you live in one of the restricted/commie states it’s not a bad option as a good self defense rifle.

Looking to get another. I have a Marlin 1895 in 45-70 but I’m looking to get one in a smaller caliber like .357 Mag. I was looking to get another Marlin but Henry just released almost all their lever actions with side loading gates. They still can be loaded via the tube which give you the best of both worlds which has attracted my attention.

Rusty 12-08-2020 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3975541)
:tup:

If you live in one of the restricted/commie states it’s not a bad option as a good self defense rifle.

Looking to get another. I have a Marlin 1895 in 45-70 but I’m looking to get one in a smaller caliber like .357 Mag. I was looking to get another Marlin but Henry just released almost all their lever actions with side loading gates. They still can be loaded via the tube which give you the best of both worlds which has attracted my attention.

I was thinking of a 44mag with a red dot.

VABAM 12-08-2020 08:08 PM

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I was thinking of a 44mag with a red dot.

If I didn’t have a 45-70 already I’d be leaning more towards to .44 Mag. Can do a lot with .357 out of a rifle and you can drop down to 38 special for low recoil plinking.

One of the reasons I’m leaning towards Marlin is due to the red dot mount MI has for their fore end. It puts a red dot very close to the bore so you can lower 1/3 co-witness the open sights and, but more importantly, not have a ridiculously cheekwell when using the red dot.

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Rusty 12-08-2020 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3975579)
If I didn’t have a 45-70 already I’d be leaning more towards to .44 Mag. Can do a lot with .357 out of a rifle and you can drop down to 38 special for low recoil plinking.

One of the reasons I’m leaning towards Marlin is due to the red dot mount MI has for their fore end. It puts a red dot very close to the bore so you can lower 1/3 co-witness the open sights and, but more importantly, not have a ridiculously cheekwell when using the red dot.

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That might be the AR of 2030.

jwick 12-08-2020 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3975510)
Assault Rifle of the 1800's.


I might know a guy with a Marlin in 44mag

jwick 12-08-2020 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3975579)
If I didn’t have a 45-70 already I’d be leaning more towards to .44 Mag. Can do a lot with .357 out of a rifle and you can drop down to 38 special for low recoil plinking.

One of the reasons I’m leaning towards Marlin is due to the red dot mount MI has for their fore end. It puts a red dot very close to the bore so you can lower 1/3 co-witness the open sights and, but more importantly, not have a ridiculously cheekwell when using the red dot.

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That’s just beautiful

Rusty 12-08-2020 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3975583)
I might know a guy with a Marlin in 44mag

Maybe the same guy with the 100 round drum? :rofl2:

VABAM 12-08-2020 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3975582)
That might be the AR of 2030.

I hope not. :shakes head:


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