Starting an exotic weapons collection?

lol depends on what you define as "collection" lol sure ill get a few 3-4 exotics. along with my regular rifles (700 7mm Mag, and Marlin .35 caliber) i want a few 'Fun' things to just go out and let loose. =) my rifles are for hunting.. but the exotics? oh JOY oh JOY!

Home Defense is my number 1 priority.. can you believe these fools try to come up in your house... sh*t.

What do you all think of the Springfield 1911 Trophy Match?

I'm looking to buy my first handgun and at first i was looking at the usual suspects (glock, xd, m&p) but my uncle has me 95% convinced that i should just bypass all that and go straight for the 1911

You really can't go wrong with a weapon that has been used since before WWI. The design has withstood the test of time.

If you want a compact, ultra-reliable handgun that is cheap to shoot the Glock 19 is my recommendation for one's first gun.

I am a H&K fanboy, so of course I would suggest looking into the H&K P30 9mm since it is basically the middle ground between the 1911 and Glock in regard to price and reliability. Some 1911s can be a bit fickle requiring a little more love, but a lot of shooters I know swear by them.

Lol my uncle basically told me to just forget about the glock. Id go for the 17 though if i were to buy one because of my big hands.
Been looking at pics of the trophy match last night and its a great looking gun. The way I see it i might as well just get a 1911. Im justifying it like i would with car mods. Which is...dont go cheap haha.
Plus my uncle said hed help me out with the cost of the gun...all i have to do is get my HSC already

Heh, being from Colorado I had to actually looke up "HSC" to figure out what you were talking about. My lord!

Yeah, you can't go wrong with a 1911 especially since there are plenty of gunsmiths that can adjust them if you run into any break-in issues. .45 Auto is a sweet round. Post the pics when you get it!

lol another thing about the glock 19 is that theres no use for me in getting a compact gun since you can't get CCW in cali

oh god i can already seeing myself modding the 1911...my uncle keeps telling me that theres so many mods you can do with the trophy match

IMO it's probably best to keep your HD gun stock.

why is that steve?

If you ever have to use it in anger a court might think you're a whackjob if you've got lasers and lights and super sensitive trigger and bayonet on it. :icon17:

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my uncle said he'll mail me a shotgun too since i used to shoot sporting clays with him

On that note, I am feeling for my 1911 crimson trace laser grips. burlwood pattern. No visible wear. batteries included. Lookin to get 200 for them. :tup:

Speaking of a CCW permit, the sheriff just called me letting me know that my CH (Concealed Handgun) permit is ready for me to pick up...too bad there is a blizzard going on right now. I will be in Tampa Bay all next week, so it looks like I will be picking it up the week after.

It is good timing; I just ordered a Glock 19 Gen 4 yesterday, but it won't get in until next week. Of course I have already purchased the obligatory 33 round magazine :)

The customization options for a 1911 are endless...

Ha. I have two of the 33 rounders for my G26. They are fun at the range.

id have to go to vegas to this one shop that doesnt check ID to get bigger magazines for a glock lol
we actually found one

So I finally received the Noveske upper and lower from Rainier Arms and bought a BAD *** lever and Geisselle SSA trigger elsewhere. Since today is blizzard day, I decided to go ahead and build up the new Uber-AR:

Parts:

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...r-ar-parts.jpg

Finished build:

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...r-ar-right.jpg

Close-up of the finished build:

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...r-close-up.jpg

I managed to make it completely ambidextrous!

Specs:

Yankee Hill Milling YHM-15 Noveske N4 lower
CMMG Noveske M-4 upper
Daniel Defense 16" mid-length, chrome-lined, 1:7 twist barrel
FailZero Basic bolt carrier group (SWEET)
Geisselle Super Semi-Automatic trigger
BCM Gunfighter charging handle
BAD *** (safety selector) lever
Troy Industries Ambidextrous magazine release
Magpul BAD lever (ambidextrous bold carrier release)
VTAC Rail TRX Extreme by Troy 11" forearm
Troy Industries Front and Rear Battlesights
Troy Industries gas block
Magpul MOE grip
Magpul aluminum triggerguard
Magpul UBR stock
Mount-N-Slot Hand Stop
Trijicon TA01NSN-RMR scope

I won't be able to fire it until after next week :(

Thanks MacCool for all the suggestions and insight!

Awesome! :tup:

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Really nice rifle! Top quality all the way. What buffer and spring are you using? You should have no problem with an H buffer.

My only observation is in regards to the BAD lever. I have mixed emotions. I've used 'em, but there's a lot to be said for a standard manual of arms. Note that on occasion, with some bolt releases in particular, it may contribute to a failure of the bolt to lock back on an empty mag. If that happens to you when you fire it, first thing I'd do is pull the BAD lever off and recheck.

Ahh, thanks...you had a lot to do with the selection for sure. The buffer and spring came with the YHM lower I believe and it is the same weight as the ones that came with my Bushmaster carbines. I really didn't think about it, but now that you mention it I see there are different weights for buffers...interesting. There is this great store near me (Bowers Tactical Bowers Tactical, featuring products from Accuracy International, ARMS, Bianchi, Blackhawk, Buffer Technologies, Bulldog, CQB Solutions, Don Hume, First Samco, Fobus, GG&G, Gemtech, Global Tacital Supply, Hakko, Insight Technologies, LMT, Magpul Indus) where they only sell mostly Glock and AR parts. I bought the Geisselle trigger and lower parts from them for this rifle and while I was looking around I noticed a Spikes buffer and spring. The thought crossed my mind to inquire about it and I also was contemplating buying a hydraulic buffer, but I wanted to shoot it before making any additional investment. I would think that a hydraulic buffer wouldn't buy me much since I don't need to reduce the cyclic rate or the fact that this is a DI rifle. But now you have me thinking about the weight... The BCG is actually the full auto version from FailZero. There is more of the cylindrical portion to it than I normally see. I would think that would add some weight especially considering the inertia associated with the carrier. Like I said I won't be able to test fire this thing until another week.

I have the BAD lever on my Bushies and haven't had any issues, but that is the first place I will check if the bolt carrier doesn't lock. Thanks for the heads up!

Now that I have an extra lower laying around I will probably end up building a 4th AR...good grief! It may give me an excuse to try out a monolithic, gas-piston upper. The LMT is looking tempting....

Rainier Arms, LLC™ | Browse | Lewis Machine Tool - LMT | Upper: LMT MRP CQB 16 Upper - Piston

Your midlength DD barrel has a gas port sufficient to drive a heavier buffer. If you break the rifle down, you'll see a letter stamped on the end of the buffer. If it's a "C" it's a carbine buffer and you should definitely go buy an "H" buffer. Depending on the ammo, you might even be able to go to an H2. Something to try - the heavier the buffer, the more it mitigates the recoil impulse. There's no need to get all fancy - the Spike's buffer is OK...about the weight of an H buffer. Its powdered tungsten is supposed to be more effective. I have one around here somewhere...it's just snake oil IMHO. Any old H or H2 buffer will do. Some people recommend a spring from Tactical Springs (Sprinco). I use them (blue) in rifles I build, but I doubt they're that much superior. OTOH, they're pretty cheap and well made.

Relative to recoil management/muzzle climb reduction, first step is a mid-length gas system, which you have. Next would be the heaviest buffer your rifle will run, H, maybe H2, maybe even H3. Third would be a compensator. If you really want to go balls out, skip the stupid hydraulic buffer (IOW, ignore that silly doofus from 'Sons of Guns') and consider a VLTOR A5 system. You wouldn't need the stock, but note that with the A5, the receiver extension is a little longer and your stock will lack 3/4 inch from closing all the way to the end plate (which really doesn't matter since it's unlikely you'll ever shoot it all the way closed). On my Noveske Light Recce (midlength), I have use a BattleComp compensator (by far the best balance of compensator vs blast/noise) and an A5 spring/buffer/extension. I let a buddy (LEO and firearm trainer) shoot it and after shooting he looked at the upper to make sure it wasn't a .22 upper. Very soft-shooting rifle that gets back on target very quickly.

just passed my HSC...i am now legal to purchase a handgun.
no idea why i was worried i wouldn't pass...literally only retards would fail that test lol

People in cali are allowed to get their ccw's. It depends what area you live in. I'm in sac and we can sign up to get ccw's. From what i heard you don't need to have a "special" reason to get one now. I guess our newly top sheriff, scott jones is allowing to get ccw's a little easier for our greater sac citizens. There is so many people signing up for ccw's that there is like a 8 month waiting list.

i live in LA county. I asked a gun store about CCW and they gave me a reason that there's too many cops in this county so they feel there's no reason for citizens to have the need for CCW which is why you can't get it.

I just took my HSC test today and one of the questions was about CCW. I got the answer right when i chose something like "it is impossible to get CCW"

I feel sorry for my fellow Americans having their rights infringed!

Brings to mind the old joke:

-Q: "Why do you carry a gun?
-A: "Because a police officer is too heavy."

Or the other old saying about carrying a gun..."When seconds count, the police are only minutes away".

The last one is my favorite because it's so true. Unless you're super lucky the cops are almost never there when you need them.

Cool, that is some great info. I think after I get back from my business trip I will go to Bowers Tactical and weight all my buffers since none of them have any markings on them (weird, I have seen the "H" stamp on others). After that I will probably buy a couple different weights and take this baby to the range. After that I will decide if I wanna flip for the Battle Comp depending on the performance...I have eyeballed those for sure.

Thanks again and I will let you know!

Congratulations...you have been graciously bestowed god-given rights by idiotic politicians :ugh2:

If the buffer isn't stamped, it's probably a carbine buffer. Replace for sure, IMHO, especially since it's likely that that lighter buffer is banging the end of the receiver extension and the BCG is taking more of a beating than it needs to. They're only about $20-$25. No need to do anything with the spring...carbine spring is fine. Some weaker ammo may not cycle an H2 buffer, but I shoot almost entirely PMC Bronze and have no problem. There are a lot of variations of gas port size, gas length, and BCG mass that all go into a mfgr's decision as to what buffer to include, and a carbine buffer is just easier because it's less likely that they'll get complaints back about short-stroking, not to mention that a carbine buffer is a lot cheaper.

I don't know if this was ever posted here, but here's a repeat if so:


The National Gun Victims Action Council is trying to organize a nationwide boycott of Starbucks on February 14 because of their refusal to ban guns in their stores.

Starbucks Promotes Pro-gun Agenda Gun Victims Action Council


The other side of that coin is the "anti-boycott" planned by The Truth About Guns (TTAG)

Starbucks “$2 for 2A” Appreciation Day Going Viral | The Truth About Guns

Bottom line, consider buying some coffee at Starbucks on February 14. And consider paying with a $2 bill.

But, please do us all a favor....don't open carry. Such an in-your-face political statement is counterproductive. Concealed Carry means just that...conceal it, even if your state allows open carry. No need to get everyone all upset, just quietly affirm your rights, and show Starbucks that you support their decision.

http://www.itstactical.com/wp-conten...unsNCoffee.png

This state (Minnesota) has an interesting take on businesses banning guns. A very specific sign has to be posted, and the statutes not only specify the wording, but also the size of the sign, and even the font used. Anything else makes it pointless. And, in fact the signs are pointless anyway, because even if you carry a weapon in a store that is posted "no guns", all they can do (if they catch you) is ask you to leave. If and only if you refuse to leave, they can call the cops, who in turn can come and ticket you with trespass, which is a $25 dollar fine, and has no bearing on your permit, present or future. Most Minnesotans that carry concealed just ignore those signs if and when they encounter them, and that would include Starbucks, if they ever change their mind.

I'll definitely be stopping by Starbucks on the 14th.

so I think I'm going to pass on the SA 1911 Trophy Match because i want to be able to shoot more and 9mm rounds are just cheaper than 45s.

What do you think of a 9mm 1911 like the SA Loaded?

any other suggestions on what I should be looking at for a 9mm?

PS: my uncle just told me that he's mailing me a bunch of 9mm ammo for free...woot!

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yup while the gangsters in LA are all carrying
americans like me who are going by the law has no way of defending myself if needed.

thanks hahaha seriously and idiot must have written that test because only a retard would fail it

I like 9mm 1911s.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...1000/Colt2.jpg

which one is that?

I was looking at Kimber and SA

It's a Colt 70 Series Combat Commander. My dad bought it in 1980 I believe.

i got so many things to research :facepalm: i never knew buying my first gun would be this confusing lol

Semtex had a nice 1911. I am not sure if this was a 9mm or .45, but I know they make these in both.