Nice workmanship, but so elaborate...

I've always been partial to Blade-Tech holsters. The Blade-Tech Nano is a nice, simple approach to IWB .

Having said that...not everyone can use an IWB carry option. Women, for example, have trouble...especially if they are slim and style-oriented. If I were going to carry IWB I'd prefer a double-sheet pancake of .08 Kydex with tuckable loops like a Raven Concealment. Not going to be as durable as a .125 Kydex fold-over, but the profile is lower and the pressure is spread out over a wider distance. In my case, instead of paying $85 and waiting 4-5 months, I'd make it myself along these lines for about $10 in materials.

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Took the LC9 to the range today. 300 rounds of Federal Champion and 14 rounds of Speer GD 124gr +p later and no malfunctions, even limp wristing it. The only issue was I only got to shoot it for maybe 50 rounds... she had the rest.

It's a very snappy little thing. The checkering on the front of the grip hurts after a while, so we ordered a Hogue slip on for it to see how that feels.

The only thing I'm worried about is her keeping on showing me up at the range. She could be a competition shooter if she really wanted to.

So, this thread has sort of died off a bit... new topic...

What is your carry ammo?

My G26 likes Speer Gold Dot 124gr +p JHP. Super reliable and accurate round for me.

GLOCK Gen 4 Recall on Recoil Spring Assembly:

See my post:
http://www.the370z.com/sports/42329-...ml#post1302484

Thanks Paul :tup:

I use Winchester RA9TA (127 +P+) in my G26, and RA9T (the 147gr std pressure version) in my longer-barrel 9mm glocks. Gold Dot is an awesome choice too though, and it's what I'd use if my supply of the above ran out and I couldn't find more to buy.

If I couldn't find any more Gold Dots I'd really want to give those RA9TAs or Federal HSTs a try. They look really interesting.

Couldn't get a gen 4 glock if i wanted to cause. Thanks kali

127gr +P+ Ranger T-Series.

That's the "RA9TA" model number I quoted above, FYI.

Not sure how Kel-Tecs are viewed here, but I've got an itch to go get a PF9 to play around with. I held one at the gun shop last week and kind of liked it. Since I already have a reliable carry piece I wouldn't mind dropping $250 on the Kel-Tec, peform the "fluff & buff" and see how well the gun works out.

What do you guys think about the kel tec shotty? I like it. it's a cool bullpup style and what not. Hopefully it will be available in kali. Although it would of been nice if they made is semi auto.

Looking to buy a .22LR AR style
 

This will be my first .22lr and i've been thinking a lot about getting one. It seems fun to plink all day :)

I have a piston ar15 (pof). I noticed that its only for use for DI ar's but on cmmg website it states that i can just remove the piston parts which isn't a problem.
DIRECT QUOTE from CMMG's website:
("Note: For Direct Gas Impingement AR-15's. Not compatible with Gas Piston Systems without removing the piston. Only for use in 5.56 NATO chambered AR-15 rifles.")

So my question is what are the pros and cons for buying the conversion kit instead of a full complete upper other than the cost savings?

Will my rifle get more dirty (I assume it would if it gets really dirty i may opt for the complete upper)? Will it be less accurate compared to a regular dedicated upper .22lr because of the twist rate?

Shortened the barrels life (if you shot a lot of .22lr and 5.56 ammo) and may add up cause it's so cheap to shot .22's.

I was thinking of getting a full upper cause i already have spikes ar15 lower and a trigger system already and i would need is a butt stock and maybe few other accessories.

If i chose to go with the complete upper instead of the kit, cmmg has upgrades to the upper. Can you guys explain some of these upgrades and if it's needed? well i don't care for the handguard upgrade. But not sure what some of these other upgrades mean and if it's a good idea to get them or waste of money which im not trying to spend a whole lot. But if it's a good idea i will get it.

Also is this upper the new evolution or the upgraded version from the previous upper?


Bolt Upgrade
Upper Receiver Upgrade
Collar Upgrade
Handguard Upgrade
Rifle Kit Upgrade
Bolt Hold Open Actuator Upgrade

Here's a direct link of the upper upgrades CMMG complete upper

Can you guys suggest any other decent .22lr uppers other than cmmg? I was looking into chiappa barrels .22lr but one guy said that it has a fake forward assist and fake flash hider. Not sure about the quality of this company. But it's pretty cheap (under $300 for an upper).

Any suggestions and advise would be great cause i'm pretty serious of getting one.

Thanks.

I'm a believer in purpose-built weapons, so I didn't want to screw around with conversions. .22 conversions can be problematic under the best of circumstances and I suspect that such a conversion on a piston upper will only be more so...sort of a double compromise in intended function. While some conversion kits work more reliably than others, many or most of them are kind of a kludge with a series of workarounds that represent compromises in design and function. Besides, if I spot a critter out in the yard that I need to shoot (muskrats come to mind), I didn't want to grab a rifle and then have to convert it on the spot to a .22 so I don't have any 5.56 rounds flying around the neighborhood or across the lake. My approach was to just buy a dedicated .22 in AR style. IMHO, state of the art there are the Colt .22's at Colt .22 Tactical Rimfire | M4 & M16 Rimfire Rifles | Powerful & Cost Efficient. They're made by Walther and are very well-made. Although they definitely prefer the higher-velocity rimfire ammo, mine has been very reliable and very accurate.

Mac, what do you think about BCM uppers? They appear to be fairly priced and I have read good things, just wondering what your thoughts are on them.

Top-notch. BCM is a quality company with exceptional customer service. I don't have any of their complete uppers, but I've used their barrels in almost every rifle I've ever built.

Good to know. That's what I've read.

I think I might put together my own lower and use a BCM (mostly) completed upper. I'd just need to add a BCG and charge handle. I've read good things about the BCM BCGs as well.

Spike's Tactical looks very good as well, and a little cheaper than the BCM. But from what I can tell from the chart that brian0128 linked to me they are built and tested to the same specs.

(If you can't tell, I really want to put one together :icon17: )

The BCM BCG's are excellent. They're all I use. Daniel Defense is also good.

When it comes time to build your lower, consider checking out G&R Tactical. Grant puts together a really excellent lower parts kit, and you can mix and match. For example, if you'd rather use a MOE grip instead of a standard USGI. I've seen a number of LPKs where one or more items were out of spec. Safety selector tends to be the prime offender. I have gone to using the Battle Arms Development Ambidextrous Safety Selector (B.A.D.A.S.S.) and they are a vast improvement over the standard selector included in a standard LPK. I prefer to use thumb to switch safe->fire and index finger to switch fire->safe, so the ambidextrous feature is useful to me as well.

Spike's -- I don't know. They look good on paper, customer service is reputed to be good...I'd be inclined to say they are probably good to go.

Charging handle -- BCM Gunfighter is the only way to go. Look carefully at the size. My preference is the Mod 3. The Mod 4 sticks out too far for me and wears a hole in my chest rig.

Thanks, Mac. This is going to be fun. :)

I didn't even know they made ambi safes for AR's.. that's awesome...

I'm a fan of Daniel Defense LPK's and a Geissele SSA trigger. Check out Noveske's new forged lower. Very tits.

BCM has awesome barrels. Hammer-forged is a decent and cheap upgrade. I'd pick that over the regular ones they offer, although those are awesome, too.

LPKs are a crap shoot in my experience. Out-of-spec bolt releases and safety selectors are not uncommon. I don't usually buy complete LPKs since I have no interest in the included grip and safety selector. I buy the parts I need individually from Brownells or someplace. I don't worry about DPMS springs and detents, but I usually buy the machined parts from Colt (maybe High Standard) and my selectors are all B.A.D.

Standard LPK fire control groups are variable, but typically not very crisp triggers. All of my rifles have SSA's on them and they are excellent. It's not necessarily where I'd recommend people start on their first build, however -- it's kind of a luxury upgrade IMHO. Spending that kind of money for it right off the bat may not be the best choice. I bought my Noveske with the SSA installed - really liked it. Then, my local dealer, who's also a friend, was at SHOT this year and Giessele was selling them for $120 each at the show so he picked up 3 others for me (and a hat :icon17:). I'm all-Giessele all the time now. Very nice triggers. I was reminded that even a quality LPK can have a crappy trigger as I was dry-firing my buddy's new Noveske.

I agree about the BCM barrels. My SBR's are both BCM...one is standard and the other is BFH...and they've been fine. Next time, though, I'm going to go Centurion. The reason I went with BCM is they're the ones that had 11.5 inch barrels, but I see that Centurion does too and I note that they're double chrome-lined like Noveske's steel barrels. Probably overkill, but then so is synthetic oil in a 370Z ;) .

My buddy just bought a new Noveske Light Recce. The new lower is very nice. He hasn't shot it yet, hopefully we'll be able to get out this afternoon if our schedules mesh. I have a new optic (Aimpoint PRO) and have some serious zeroing to do in prep for an upcoming course. I also switched out my chest rig mag pouches (again) and need to see how those work. As always, I want to do everything I can to avoid being "that guy". These high-level training courses with cops can be pretty testosterone-laden.

I agree, except that I feel a good trigger is more important on a first rifle than the 2nd or 3rd...

It allows a novice to learn how to properly squeeze a crisp trigger and how things should feel. Then when they get a mushy one, they at least can practice the fundamentals and make up for the deficiency of the equipment.

Just my .02

Hey guys I'm going to apologize right off the start and say this topic has probably been beaten to death. If it has just yell at me haha, but I wanted to seek out the opinion of you all vs. a gun forum.

I'm looking to purchase my first .9mm in the next month or so. Quick background, I am not new to guns I grew up with them and already own a few. However this will be MY first 9mm.

I am only interested at this point in time between either a glock 17/19 (haven't quite decided which size I like better) and the XDM 9.

I have shot all three of these a fair amout (around 400-500 rounds through each) and have also shot in comparison the M&P 9 and the PPQ. I am fortunate that a range close to me rents a various assortment.

Now comes the hard part... I shoot relatively tighter groups at 10-15yds with the springfield and about the same at 7 yds with the trio. They're all comfortable and like how they feel in my hand. I prefer the springfields look to the glock.

So sorry for all the probably unnecessary background, I come to you on opinions of overall quality and how long it will last with putting a good amount through it. I am not using this gun as a carry or anything of that nature. Strictly recreational. Any experiences or opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all and again sorry this is so long to ask a pretty simple question, just thought it might help to see where I'm coming from. :tiphat:

It seems like you really like the XD. It looks best to you and you shoot it best. I would go for it.

I am partial to Glocks (I carry a G26) but I like the XDs as well.

Hey dude haven't seen you in a while.. well mainly cause I'm never here anymore lol. How's business going for you?

Yea I would say I am partial to the XD. A little pricier but comes with more stuff too hahaha.

But glocks have a proven track record thats hard to contend with. Decisions decisions

:hello: Things are going fairly well. :tup:

You said you were planning on recreational use only, so I wouldn't be too terribly concerned with reliability. That said, it seems like the XD series is on par with Glock in terms of reliability and durability, so I wouldn't worry about an XD.

Oh I so wish i could get an XD"M" version here in cali. :mad:

Well, I have just added a Savage mk2 f to my collection and it is a blast to shoot. Very accurate at any reasonable range and the accutrigger is amazing. Now to go find a rabbit or two. Anyone got a suggestion on good hunting ammo? I currently have some winchester hollow points i plan on using.

I have a glock gen4 g19 and i had several FTE's using remington ammo. I had some double feed and 3 or 4 FTE's using federal ammo. I may have to call glock and get a new spring.

Well there's a recall on them.

Yep. Get the new spring and it will function like it should.

:tup:

river rock and stag's are good brands.

Anyone have any experience with S&W M&P in .40S&W? i.e. how does it feel, shoot, is it a good ccw pistol? I ordered one as a commemorative purchase through my battalion for out deployment and hopefully will get it by the end of the month. It comes with a case, 3 magazines, kydex holster for pistol and magazines, a speed loader, and a lock.

I like the M&P series. It feels nice to me. I have fired the 9mm and .45 calibers but not the .40. I think you'll like it. The full size IMO is too big for CCW, but the compact is doable.

Hmmm...opinions vary on those brands, but generally they're not highly regarded among people knowledgeable about that class of rifle/carbine.


I have a S&W M&P long slide in 9mm. It's a good weapon. Mine was certainly improved by adding a DCAEK from Apex Tactical. I don't use it for CCW. I think that the compact version would be an acceptable choice for that purpose, however. There are some problems with them...point of impact can be notably variable relative to the ammo used, and they do have a tendency to be sensitive to slide release when a magazine is slammed home on slide lock, such as in a tactical reload.

For my taste, they're too thick for CCW. I have the same issue with Glocks though, so maybe it's just me. I prefer 1911s for CCW.