Anyone here into firearms?

Hotrodz · 11-30-2020, 12:21 PM

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VABAM · 11-29-2020, 03:48 PM

Watched a video today from Jerry Miculek talking about keeping your thumb away the cylinder gap on a revolver. For me this is very old news but seeing hotdogs being blown up by the cylinder gap gases was fun. What got me was the comments on the FB post of the video. Made me realize how ignorant a lot of gun owners are about how guns, more specifically revolvers, work. So many comments like “I’ve been shooting revolvers for many years, never knew that was a thing.” Also comments like this, “I've never shot a revolver. Didn’t know about the cylinder gap.” made me realize that many gun owners nowadays have never shot revolvers. I don’t think revolvers are a dying bread but definitely not as popular as they used to. IMO general gun knowledge in the community is dying. I really can't point to one thing that is causing it. Thoughts?

Rusty · 11-29-2020, 04:16 PM

Shoot a revolver at night. Look at how big the flash is around the cylinder.

Ghostvette · 11-30-2020, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

Watched a video today from Jerry Miculek talking about keeping your thumb away the cylinder gap on a revolver. For me this is very old news but seeing hotdogs being blown up by the cylinder gap gases was fun. What got me was the comments on the FB post of the video. Made me realize how ignorant a lot of gun owners are about how guns, more specifically revolvers, work. So many comments like “I’ve been shooting revolvers for many years, never knew that was a thing.” Also comments like this, “I've never shot a revolver. Didn’t know about the cylinder gap.” made me realize that many gun owners nowadays have never shot revolvers. I don’t think revolvers are a dying bread but definitely not as popular as they used to. IMO general gun knowledge in the community is dying. I really can't point to one thing that is causing it. Thoughts?

It's more of a case of people that lack the 'hand-eye coordination' to fire a revolver. They are also the ones that put a laser on their Glock and can't hit a silhouette target at 15'.

Those that say 'I've been shooting a revolver for years...' are usually full of chit, they can barely put rounds on target. I'm almost convinced that FB is inhabited by fools, morons and drama queens.

I grew up on revolvers, my first gun was a 6" Ruger Security Six and I put almost 500 rounds through it before I could consistantly hit the black (8, 9, 10, X) on a bulls-eye target. I knew enough to keep my fingers away from the barrel and the cylinder gap....

Hotrodz · 11-30-2020, 08:54 AM

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It's more of a case of people that lack the 'hand-eye coordination' to fire a revolver. They are also the ones that put a laser on their Glock and can't hit a silhouette target at 15'.

Those that say 'I've been shooting a revolver for years...' are usually full of chit, they can barely put rounds on target. I'm almost convinced that FB is inhabited by fools, morons and drama queens.

I grew up on revolvers, my first gun was a 6" Ruger Security Six and I put almost 500 rounds through it before I could consistantly hit the black (8, 9, 10, X) on a bulls-eye target. I knew enough to keep my fingers away from the barrel and the cylinder gap....

The first time I shot a revolver for real was at the police academy. Back then we had to purchase our duty weapon and bought a SW 686 4" barrel. I can't tell you how many rounds we went through be for qualifying but it was a bunch and many of the cadets needed multiple attempts. The first round of fire in the qualification was from 20 yards. I was happy if I put any on the target and hitting the silhouette was bonus points :eek. Most remained of the course was between three and 10 yards with and other from the 15. I am left eye dominate and so I had to learn how to shoot and reload from that side. Reloading a revolver is not left hand friendly.

Rusty · 11-30-2020, 09:21 AM

My first hand gun was a Colt Trooper Mark3 357. Followed by a S&W 44 Mag. When I was on duty. I was required to carry a revolver at first. That was a S&W 4" 686. Later on, I was allowed to carry a Colt Gov't Model 70, 45 ACP after I qualitied with it.

For qualification. Needed a score of 130 out of 150. Ranges from 5 yards, 7 yards, 10 yards, 15 yards, and 20 yards. In practice, I was getting 150's. qualifying, I shot a 148.

Had a flyer. Also had to qualify with a 12 ga shotgun.

VABAM · 11-30-2020, 10:44 AM

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It's more of a case of people that lack the 'hand-eye coordination' to fire a revolver. They are also the ones that put a laser on their Glock and can't hit a silhouette target at 15'.

Those that say 'I've been shooting a revolver for years...' are usually full of chit, they can barely put rounds on target. I'm almost convinced that FB is inhabited by fools, morons and drama queens. .........

Thumb position on revolvers is more of a knowledge issue than a hand eye coordination issue IMO. One thing I think is not helping is all the tacticool/tactical elitist YouTubers, forum posters, article writers, etc. hyper focused on AR-15s, AKs, Glocks and other main stream "tactical" firearms. It's a good thing that all there is a lot of info out there about using guns for self defense and fighting for our 2A rights but I think hobby side of guns is starting to be hurt by it.

I agree, hand eye coordination does play apart in not hitting the target but also the lack of knowledge doesn't help. How to use the sights right, press the trigger properly, proper grip, not anticipating the shoot, not jerking the trigger, etc. are all things that need to be learned. Unfortunately a lot of people can't be bothered or willing to learn.

I agree there is a lot of fools, morons and drama queens on FB but it serves a purpose for me.

VABAM · 11-30-2020, 11:22 AM

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The first time I shot a revolver for real was at the police academy. ........

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My first hand gun was a Colt Trooper Mark3 357. ........

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.......I grew up on revolvers, my first gun was a 6" Ruger Security Six ......

I didn't grow up with revolvers but I did shoot a few before I was old enough to buy my own. My .357 Mag Taurus 608 was my first revolver, third pistol overall. A Ruger Red Hawk Hunter in .44 Mag was next. My Ruger Bisley Black Hawk in 45 ACP/45 Colt is my only other revolver. Looking to get more. A 22lr revolver probably will be next.

For S&Gs I've been working on shooting and reloading my Black Hawk quickly so I can open carry it. The thought how butt hurt some tactical elitist would get about that makes me chuckle.

Ghostvette · 11-30-2020, 11:42 AM

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I didn't grow up with revolvers but I did shoot a few before I was old enough to buy my own. My .357 Mag Taurus 608 was my first revolver, third pistol overall. A Ruger Red Hawk Hunter in .44 Mag was next. My Ruger Bisley Black Hawk in 45 ACP/45 Colt is my only other revolver. Looking to get more. A 22lr revolver probably will be next.

For S&Gs I've been working on shooting and reloading my Black Hawk quickly so I can open carry it. The thought how butt hurt some tactical elitist would get about that makes me chuckle.

I've got a RedHawk in 41 Mag, I love that gun.

I sold my Security Six (dumb thing to do, but needed the $$), I've got a couple of 4" Stainless Security Sixes, had a Model 10 Smith heavy barrel I sold (got it in trade for a 69 Camaro. That Camaro was rough), and found a Ruger 3 screw Blackhawk that is has not been changed to a transfer bar system. It was in pieces, but everything was there. I had a gunsmith assemble it and verify that it shot properly. The bluing is worn but he said it would be worth more as is.

VABAM · 11-30-2020, 12:23 PM

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I've got a RedHawk in 41 Mag, I love that gun.

I sold my Security Six (dumb thing to do, but needed the $$), I've got a couple of 4" Stainless Security Sixes, had a Model 10 Smith heavy barrel I sold (got it in trade for a 69 Camaro. That Camaro was rough), and found a Ruger 3 screw Blackhawk that is has not been changed to a transfer bar system. It was in pieces, but everything was there. I had a gunsmith assemble it and verify that it shot properly. The bluing is worn but he said it would be worth more as is.

I've only sold one gun ever and that was a first gen Walther P99 with a OD green frame. Wished I had held on to that one.

That 3 screw BlackHawk was a nice find. Definitely something to hold onto and not mess with. When I was looking for a BlackHawk I read up on all that. I probably buy another SA revolver at some point. Most likely another Ruger Bisley. I really like how the Ruger Bisley grip feels and looks.

Spoiler · 11-30-2020, 02:40 AM

I used to build a lot of potato guns and then shoot them at night.... Major muzzle blast....

VABAM · 11-30-2020, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Shoot a revolver at night. Look at how big the flash is around the cylinder.

Now that I think about it I've never shot a revolver at night. Got to do that some time for S&Gs.

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I used to build a lot of potato guns and then shoot them at night.... Major muzzle blast....

Love seeing the muzzle blast when shooting my 50 DE in low light.
Not recommended to do it in the pitch black.
Did that once, couldn't see for a few moments.

Rusty · 11-30-2020, 10:19 AM

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Now that I think about it I've never shot a revolver at night. Got to do that some time for S&Gs.

Love seeing the muzzle blast when shooting my 50 DE in low light.
Not recommended to do it in the pitch black.
Did that once, couldn't see for a few moments.

I've done a lot of shooting at night. If you're reloading. A fast burning powder helps with the night time flash. A slow burning powder will give you a big flash. As it is still burning outside the barrel.

VABAM · 11-30-2020, 10:53 AM

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I've done a lot of shooting at night. If you're reloading. A fast burning powder helps with the night time flash. A slow burning powder will give you a big flash. As it is still burning outside the barrel.

Oh I know the difference between fast and slow burning powders.

I only use factory loads in my 50 DE at the moment. It's a toy and it is not worth it yet to reload for it but I definitely have been saving my brass for it. Awhile back I stumbled upon standard 50AE Hornady Custom ammo for very cheap in a gun store I happened to visit. It was almost half the cost of the cheapest on line price I could find so I bought as much as I could. Still working through it.

Ghostvette · 11-30-2020, 11:10 AM

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Oh I know the difference between fast and slow burning powders.

I only use factory loads in my 50 DE at the moment. It's a toy and it is not worth it yet to reload for it but I definitely have been saving my brass for it. Awhile back I stumbled upon standard 50AE Hornady Custom ammo for very cheap in a gun store I happened to visit. It was almost half the cost of the cheapest on line price I could find so I bought as much as I could. Still working through it.

Kind of like owning a 44 AutoMag. I shot one and enjoyed it.

Then I started checking out the ammo situation. The only company making it at that time was Norma and it was way beyond my E5 budget....

Then I looked at reloading for it... step one: Cut down .308 brass to make case... Oh fvck no.... I need my .308 brass......

11-29-2020, 03:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
VABAM A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: No Where VA Posts: 4,003 Drives: with VDC off. Rep Power: 197	Watched a video today from Jerry Miculek talking about keeping your thumb away the cylinder gap on a revolver. For me this is very old news but seeing hotdogs being blown up by the cylinder gap gases was fun. What got me was the comments on the FB post of the video. Made me realize how ignorant a lot of gun owners are about how guns, more specifically revolvers, work. So many comments like “I’ve been shooting revolvers for many years, never knew that was a thing.” Also comments like this, “I've never shot a revolver. Didn’t know about the cylinder gap.” made me realize that many gun owners nowadays have never shot revolvers. I don’t think revolvers are a dying bread but definitely not as popular as they used to. IMO general gun knowledge in the community is dying. I really can't point to one thing that is causing it. Thoughts? __________________ 2009 370Z Touring W/SP

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,497 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	Shoot a revolver at night. Look at how big the flash is around the cylinder. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,497 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	My first hand gun was a Colt Trooper Mark3 357. Followed by a S&W 44 Mag. When I was on duty. I was required to carry a revolver at first. That was a S&W 4" 686. Later on, I was allowed to carry a Colt Gov't Model 70, 45 ACP after I qualitied with it. For qualification. Needed a score of 130 out of 150. Ranges from 5 yards, 7 yards, 10 yards, 15 yards, and 20 yards. In practice, I was getting 150's. qualifying, I shot a 148. Had a flyer. Also had to qualify with a 12 ga shotgun. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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Spoiler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Central Florida Age: 65 Posts: 8,409 Drives: 21 Supra -Blk/Red Rep Power: 2684381	I used to build a lot of potato guns and then shoot them at night.... Major muzzle blast....