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Originally Posted by FPenvy My delton was $599 or $699 I can't remember. Either way it's my favorite. Have a buschmaster, dpms, and sig as well. Right now I'm eyeing

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Old 06-04-2017, 03:19 PM   #4846 (permalink)
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My delton was $599 or $699 I can't remember.

Either way it's my favorite. Have a buschmaster, dpms, and sig as well.
Right now I'm eyeing an M&P-15 for $649
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Right now I'm eyeing an M&P-15 for $649
Cabelas has them on sell for around $600 I think.
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Right now I'm eyeing an M&P-15 for $649
Its a solid rifle. I love mine.
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Cabelas has them on sell for around $600 I think.
Unfortunately there's no Cabelas near me. I'd have to order online (or go to Delaware which is the closest store) Pay a transfer fee of $60 and another $15 for a background check. If I get it from the same place I got my VP9, I'm hoping they'll cut me a break.

I know sometimes companies have rebates also sometimes
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I went to the range for a little more practice I like to think I'm getting better

First one is 9mm from 10 yards.


This one is my friend's 5.56 from 25 yards.


I think I'm getting better
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Need to go out to 100 yards with the rifle. It will have a different point of impact. And your groups will open up.
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Need to go out to 100 yards with the rifle. It will have a different point of impact. And your groups will open up.



Those are not bad for being a new shooter. While head shots look cool on paper, fundamentally, you should focus on the 10 & 10x ring (center mass). From a tactical stand point, a head shot is easier to miss. All the target would have to do is move the head a couple of inches, and no kill shot. With a center mass shot, a couple of inches either way is still putting the target out of the fight.
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Honestly, I'm not sold on silhouette targets for practice. I'm partial to NRA Bullseye 25yd targets. I also don't think you learn as much inside of 10yds. Move that target back, and shoot slower.
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At the gun club. We have knock down targets that we shoot at. The range is 25 yards. 5 round targets, 6", 5", 4", 3" 2". Once you knock them down, you can reset them by pulling a rope. That 2" is hard to hit. We've used everything from .22's to S&W 500 on them.
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I know about aiming for body mass. I just felt like doing that. I'm noticing I can't keep the pistol still while aiming though. That something that I'll just have to get used to?
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I know about aiming for body mass. I just felt like doing that. I'm noticing I can't keep the pistol still while aiming though. That something that I'll just have to get used to?
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I know about aiming for body mass. I just felt like doing that. I'm noticing I can't keep the pistol still while aiming though. That something that I'll just have to get used to?
From what I've seen, that comes from two factors, upper body strength and relaxation. A couple of things that work for me, don't grip the pistol real tight and you have to relax. If you try and squeeze the pistol real tight to stop the movement, you wind up creating movement because the arms and shoulders tense up, causing movement, which creates a never-ending cycle. A firm grip and keep the body relaxed will improve your shooting.

Most of us have several thousand rounds of practice under our belts, you aren't going to shoot like Rob Pincus, Steve Reichert or Rob Leatham your first few times (Google the names, you'll understand). It takes time to develop what feels right and for your shooting to improve. If possible, take a course in basic pistol, how to hold, how to aim, in other words, the basics. You'll get there.



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From what I've seen, that comes from two factors, upper body strength and relaxation. A couple of things that work for me, don't grip the pistol real tight and you have to relax. If you try and squeeze the pistol real tight to stop the movement, you wind up creating movement because the arms and shoulders tense up, causing movement, which creates a never-ending cycle. A firm grip and keep the body relaxed will improve your shooting.

Most of us have several thousand rounds of practice under our belts, you aren't going to shoot like Rob Pincus, Steve Reichert or Rob Leatham your first few times (Google the names, you'll understand). It takes time to develop what feels right and for your shooting to improve. If possible, take a course in basic pistol, how to hold, how to aim, in other words, the basics. You'll get there.



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Completely agree, whenever I find myself off target its due to trying to compensate for recoil or gripping too tightly. I usually put the gun down for a second, stretch my hands and relax when I pick it up again. Like magic my shots are grouping again with steady hands.
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... I'm noticing I can't keep the pistol still while aiming though. That something that I'll just have to get used to?
Some people, myself included, can have a difficult time holding anything as heavy as a gun steady - especially with arms fully extended. With a heavy rifle, I'd be lucky to hit the broad side of a barn at 100 yds without a bipod, sled, or some other means of support. I've heard that shoulder/upper-body exercises will help.

A different stance may help. Should be plenty of info on the Web. Ask your fellow shooters at the range for tips.

Have fun and don't worry about being an expert after a few dozen rounds - hold any of those targets up to your chest and, if you don't panic, you have enough accuracy for home defense distances.
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Most of training for officers revolves around target at 3 to 9 yards because the majority of all shootings happen with in these distance. Rarely will you here or see shoot out with great distance between shooters.

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