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And yes, pics will follow. It will be a while until I'm done the initial build. The tune will follow that. I'm really not sure if I will shoot it

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Old 08-21-2014, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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And yes, pics will follow. It will be a while until I'm done the initial build. The tune will follow that. I'm really not sure if I will shoot it before winter. I might finish the initial build, but I probably won't get to shoot it until spring.
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MOAR reticle! Price...... too much! Remember, I live in Canada. Land of the free and grossly over taxed.
Hope it wasn't too much more.
Those scopes are pricy as it is.
But worth it!
I have a Nightforce 2.5-10x42 NXS Compact with the illuminated MIL-R reticle.
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The tune will follow that. I'm really not sure if I will shoot it before winter. I might finish the initial build, but I probably won't get to shoot it until spring.

That sucks!
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Newest toy: HK VP9 w/threaded barrel, night sights and Taylor Freelance +5 mag extensions. Shoot like a DREAMMM!!!

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Newest toy: HK VP9 w/threaded barrel, night sights and Taylor Freelance +5 mag extensions. Shoot like a DREAMMM!!!
The VP9 is an excellent pistol. I like mine a little better than my Walther PPQ. Both are vastly superior to any other polymer striker-fired handgun I've ever shot, although in fairness I'd add that I have no experience with the Sig P320.
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Newest toy: HK VP9 w/threaded barrel, night sights and Taylor Freelance +5 mag extensions. Shoot like a DREAMMM!!!

Nice. I have a couple of those Taylor +5's on order. Did your VP 9 come that way, or have you been "working on it?" I haven't seen one equipped that way out of the box.
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Nice. I have a couple of those Taylor +5's on order. Did your VP 9 come that way, or have you been "working on it?" I haven't seen one equipped that way out of the box.
I've been working on it. It came with the night sights and extra mag (LEM Edition)... I got the threaded barrel from hkparts and the mag extensions straight from Taylor Freelance.

I cut the foam inside the case to fit the VP with everything I've done to it.
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I've been working on it. It came with the night sights and extra mag (LEM Edition)... I got the threaded barrel from hkparts and the mag extensions straight from Taylor Freelance.

I cut the foam inside the case to fit the VP with everything I've done to it.
Nice. Have you had problems with the Taylor Freelance? There were earlier issues with the +5 thing (actually pretty much only +4) as well as some reliability issues with bending of the floor plate. Reportedly, they've addressed both of those issues. Any insight?

At $39, you're right at the cost of a whole new magazine. $39 for +5, $39.95 for +15. Hmmmm.

Have you shot your VP9 yet? I think it's a remarkable firearm, and at $600 for an HK, I couldn't pass it up.

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Nice. Have you had problems with the Taylor Freelance? There were earlier issues with the +5 thing (actually pretty much only +4) as well as some reliability issues with bending of the floor plate. Reportedly, they've addressed both of those issues. Any insight?

At $39, you're right at the cost of a whole new magazine. $39 for +5, $39.95 for +15. Hmmmm.

Have you shot your VP9 yet? I think it's a remarkable firearm, and at $600 for an HK, I couldn't pass it up.
I had to trim the corners of the follower a bit to get it to slide past the edges of the mag extension. In some cases it gets hung up a little bit if you don't. No issues getting in all +5 rounds. Other than the absolute PITA installation in which I managed to cut my thumb, they are awesome and work great.

The main purpose of the +5 is to benefit competitive shooters. More rounds = less reloading.

I've shot it a few times. It's awesome. I paid $750 for mine, but it's the "LEM edition" which came with night sites and an extra mag.
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Here's a teaser pic of the new build. Still waiting for the scope to arrive. The rest is a Mystic Precision Mpod. The scope will be a NightForce NSX 5.5-22 X 56 with the MOAR recticle. I'm still deciding on the rail. It will either be the direct fit from NF or something different. Since my range only goes out to 300 yards, I may be looking at something different for the mount. The direct fit is a 20 MOA rise, so for 300 yards that may be too much for the scope. I might bottom the adjustment out and still not have enough for sub 500 yard solutions.

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Battle Arms Development (they make the BAD ambi safety selector) has started making AR15 lowers with their known attention to detail. Looking forward to building a rifle with it. Lots of advanced engineering in the fabrication process. The logo is 3-D laser cut, the finish is beautiful.



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....I'm still deciding on the rail. It will either be the direct fit from NF or something different. Since my range only goes out to 300 yards, I may be looking at something different for the mount. The direct fit is a 20 MOA rise, so for 300 yards that may be too much for the scope. I might bottom the adjustment out and still not have enough for sub 500 yard solutions.
The scope you ordered has 100 MOA (0 +/- 50 MOA) internal elevation adjustment. You should be okay with a 20 MOA base shooting at 300 yards and even 100 yards. Lets start with this; a 100 yard zero, the scope you ordered, 2" height over bore and a 0 MOA base. A 308 bullet rises about 1-2" @ 100 yards before dropping so the scope zero will be roughly in the middle of your elevation adjustment (@100 yards). Even if it takes 10 MOA up (Point Of Impact down) to zero the scope you're left with 40 MOA up (POI down) and 60 MOA down (POI up). In theory if you then add a 20 MOA base you'll then have 20 MOA up (POI down) left and 80 MOA for down (POI up) left for bullet drop. This is all theory, real world mileage might vary!

Hope I didn't confuse you more.

From what I have read you might have ran into an issue using a 20 MOA base for short range shooting if you had gone with a 1" tube scope or a cheap scope with limited adjustment. However you ordered a high quality 30mm tube scope with plenty of adjustment.


I would go with a rail and rings. Gives you a lot of options and makes swapping out optics easier. I plan on using a Badger Ordnance rail and rings for my future build. If you use a one piece mount or a rail, look into bedding it to the top of your receiver. Sometime the front and rear of a receiver are not perfectly lined up. This causes the scope mount to flex and that flex is transmitted into the scope tube. There are some good DIYs on YouTube of how to bed a one piece scope mount/rail.

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Good advice. Thanks a lot. Yes the 30mm tube is much better. And yes, I believe I'll go with the steel one piece rail with the 20moa rise so I can have some options if I need them. NF rings are good as well.

And I won't be doing the rail or scope mounting. I have a smith friend who will do that and bore sight it for me.
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Good advice. Thanks a lot. Yes the 30mm tube is much better. And yes, I believe I'll go with the steel one piece rail with the 20moa rise so I can have some options if I need them. NF rings are good as well.

And I won't be doing the rail or scope mounting. I have a smith friend who will do that and bore sight it for me.







I'm a DIYer when it comes to mounting and bore sighting scopes (and redots, open sight, etc.). Bore sighting is easy and you don't even need any fancy tools especially for a bolt action. So, it surprises me when people skip this very important step. Case in point; I was at the 100 yard section of one my local ranges when a guy with a scout scoped Nagant set up next to me. When he took his first shot I saw chunks of concrete go flying through the air. Then I heard him say "Where did it go?". I looked up from my rifle just in time to see his second shot hit the concrete barrier that is suspended over the targets to prevent shots from going over the berm. The barrier is 8 ft off the ground. I quickly told him to cease fire and then asked him if he had bore sighted his scope. He said no and he thought he didn't need to. I tried to bore sight his rifle for him but with his scope and mount adjustments maxed out he was still 3 ft off. That's why you always bore sight your rifle (handguns and shotguns too) when ever you make a major change to you sights or scope.

BTW this wasn’t directed at any one in particular just 6MT's post reminded me of that experience for some reason.
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since were on the topic:

What do you guys think of those laser bore sight bullets?




I've never used one but planning on getting the crimson trace grip for my EDC Kimber CDP II so I thought this would be a good way to line up the laser sights.

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