Anyone here into firearms?

tvfreakazoid · 11-01-2013, 04:03 AM

Just a heads up in case no one noticed.
Walmart raised their ammo prices. Bulk 22lr ammo (525+) use to be 21 or 22 and some change, now they are 27+.
Winchester m22 22lr 1k bulk use to be 40+ and now they are 50+.

It seems ammo prices is higher across the board in walmart.

Just when i was getting into guns more and more.

Also, not sure if this is connected or not but but M.A.C (military arms channel) on youtube said on facebook that a lead smelting plant was closed down do to the epa in texas that might have or will cause ammo prices to go up even higher.

MacCool · 12-21-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dtul

I have a couple shotguns, just bought a Winchester SX3 12 gauge and also have a Browning BPS Ducks Unlimited 20 gauge.

I am planning on buying my first pistol soon since I just turned 21 recently. Any recommendations? I am thinking either a G19 or G23 since I have smaller or hands or possibly an XD. I found a really good deal on a an XD .45 GAP, but I'm just worried that it will be too hard to find ammo for it, so I haven't pulled the trigger yet (see what I did there?). Anyways if you guys can recommend any good range guns for a newer shooter it would be much appreciated.

I highly recommend the Walther PPQ. It doesn't have the blocky uncomfortable grip of the Glocks, and the trigger on the Glock isn't even in the same league.

SouthArk370Z · 12-21-2013, 10:12 AM

I have small hands and a Glock 19 and have to agree that the grip is not the most comfortable, but it's not that bad. Guess it depends on just how small your hands are. Only way to know for sure is to try it. I usually get single-stack magazine pistols but got a good deal on the G19.

I've found the trigger on the G19 to be a bit "weird" but you get used to it. Nothing that would mess me up in an emergency. No way to decock but snap-caps are cheap.

My biggest "complaint" about the G19 is the safety system. Not a gun I would keep if I had kids in the house (or I'd keep it locked up, which defeats the purpose of a HP weapon).

All-in-all, I'm happy with my G19 but, if you have small hands, it may not be the gun for you.

Chuck33079 · 12-21-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

I have small hands and a Glock 19 and have to agree that the grip is not the most comfortable, but it's not that bad. Guess it depends on just how small your hands are. Only way to know for sure is to try it. I usually get single-stack magazine pistols but got a good deal on the G19.

I've found the trigger on the G19 to be a bit "weird" but you get used to it. Nothing that would mess me up in an emergency. No way to decock but snap-caps are cheap.

My biggest "complaint" about the G19 is the safety system. Not a gun I would keep if I had kids in the house (or I'd keep it locked up, which defeats the purpose of a HP weapon).

All-in-all, I'm happy with my G19 but, if you have small hands, it may not be the gun for you.

One gun mag described holding a Glock like "shaking hands with a 2x4".

The trigger can be cleaned up to not be as weird, but it's never going to feel great. I've got a bunch of Glocks. Great pistols, but they definitely have their drawbacks.

Ghostvette · 12-24-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dtul

I have a couple shotguns, just bought a Winchester SX3 12 gauge and also have a Browning BPS Ducks Unlimited 20 gauge.

I am planning on buying my first pistol soon since I just turned 21 recently. Any recommendations? I am thinking either a G19 or G23 since I have smaller or hands or possibly an XD. I found a really good deal on a an XD .45 GAP, but I'm just worried that it will be too hard to find ammo for it, so I haven't pulled the trigger yet (see what I did there?). Anyways if you guys can recommend any good range guns for a newer shooter it would be much appreciated.

Find a range that will let you rent pistols, then try several. Make your decision based on how the gun fits your hand, then decide on caliber after shooting it. Most new shooters do better with a 9 than with a .40 or .45. Don't go with an oddball caliber like .45 GAP, it's too hard to find ammo for it. The XDs are nice, I'm not sure but if they have the option to switch calibers by changing barrels, that might be the way to go. I have a SIG P226 in 40 that I switched to .357 SIG by changing barrels. Another thing to keep in mind is what are you going to use the gun for. For CCW use, I'd go with a 9 because recoil is easier to manage and that will equate to more rounds on target. I still carry a .45, but I'm seriously considering switching my carry gun to a 9 after doing some training with Rob Pincus (I hope I spelled that right). Recoil management seems to be the key, I can get 8 rounds of 9 on target faster than I can 8 rounds of .45, and I've sent more than a few thousand rounds downrange. Just my

6MT · 12-24-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

Find a range that will let you rent pistols, then try several. Make your decision based on how the gun fits your hand, then decide on caliber after shooting it. Most new shooters do better with a 9 than with a .40 or .45. Don't go with an oddball caliber like .45 GAP, it's too hard to find ammo for it. The XDs are nice, I'm not sure but if they have the option to switch calibers by changing barrels, that might be the way to go. I have a SIG P226 in 40 that I switched to .357 SIG by changing barrels. Another thing to keep in mind is what are you going to use the gun for. For CCW use, I'd go with a 9 because recoil is easier to manage and that will equate to more rounds on target. I still carry a .45, but I'm seriously considering switching my carry gun to a 9 after doing some training with Rob Pincus (I hope I spelled that right). Recoil management seems to be the key, I can get 8 rounds of 9 on target faster than I can 8 rounds of .45, and I've sent more than a few thousand rounds downrange. Just my

Couldn't have said that better!

JWillis72 · 12-26-2013, 06:02 PM

I found an old picture of my upper from when I was building my 10" AR all and all I can do is stare at the ammo its sitting on! Before things were crazy I bought that in two trips to walmart for something like $17-18 per 100!

scionide · 12-27-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

I found an old picture of my upper from when I was building my 10" AR all and all I can do is stare at the ammo its sitting on! Before things were crazy I bought that in two trips to walmart for something like $17-18 per 100!

This makes me sad..now a "decent" deal is 50 rounds for the same price.

SmoothZ · 02-23-2014, 08:49 AM

I recently won a Sig P290RS ORB. Absolutely no money was spent out of pocket for me. I entered a raffle and got lucky. Love this little 9mm gun.

I also ordered a lower receiver for an AR 15 I want to put together. It's from New Frontier.

New Frontier Armory STRIPPED GENII AR15 Polymer Lower Receiver with Lower Parts Kits Installed

Dzel · 10-05-2013, 01:29 PM

She tries not to but... she's hot. And blessed... So yeah. Lol

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HKYStormFront · 10-31-2013, 09:22 PM

Went shooting again this past weekend and had a good, if brief, time. Honed in my technique and by the end of the day, my grouping was much closer together. My friend and I will be taking the CWP class soon, I will report back with my thoughts on that after we do...

tRidiot · 11-01-2013, 04:15 AM

Actually, it was the LAST primary lead smelting plant in the United States. And it was in Herculaneum, Missouri and had been in operation for around 120 years.

The EPA instituted stricter restrictions that would have cost $100M for the plant to meet. Therefore, they decided to close down operations.

Keep in mind, this is the LAST primary lead smelting plant in the country... which means no other plant can take lead ore mined out of the earth and turn it into lead ingots or lead bullion for use in things like ammunition. All new lead will either have to be mined, shipped out of the country to be smelted and brought back in, or just purchsed from a foreign source.

And what foreign source has the majority of the lead market? That's right... China. Seems like it would be pretty easy for the .gov to strangle the firearms enthusiast community by cutting out the availability of affordable ammunition a lot easier than by banning the guns, doesn't it?

HKYStormFront · 11-01-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tRidiot

Actually, it was the LAST primary lead smelting plant in the United States. And it was in Herculaneum, Missouri and had been in operation for around 120 years.

The EPA instituted stricter restrictions that would have cost $100M for the plant to meet. Therefore, they decided to close down operations.

Keep in mind, this is the LAST primary lead smelting plant in the country... which means no other plant can take lead ore mined out of the earth and turn it into lead ingots or lead bullion for use in things like ammunition. All new lead will either have to be mined, shipped out of the country to be smelted and brought back in, or just purchsed from a foreign source.

And what foreign source has the majority of the lead market? That's right... China. Seems like it would be pretty easy for the .gov to strangle the firearms enthusiast community by cutting out the availability of affordable ammunition a lot easier than by banning the guns, doesn't it?

they didn't ever need to bother mentioning trying to ban guns. they found an easy way to do it...

JWillis72 · 12-16-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

they didn't ever need to bother mentioning trying to ban guns. they found an easy way to do it...

This actually isn't true, almost all lead used in ammo is recycled.

tRidiot · 11-01-2013, 04:21 AM

Here is my current AR "family portrait" - all self-built from the ground up:

11-01-2013, 04:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10325	Just a heads up in case no one noticed. Walmart raised their ammo prices. Bulk 22lr ammo (525+) use to be 21 or 22 and some change, now they are 27+. Winchester m22 22lr 1k bulk use to be 40+ and now they are 50+. It seems ammo prices is higher across the board in walmart. Just when i was getting into guns more and more. Also, not sure if this is connected or not but but M.A.C (military arms channel) on youtube said on facebook that a lead smelting plant was closed down do to the epa in texas that might have or will cause ammo prices to go up even higher. __________________ Mudders milk

12-21-2013, 10:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	I have small hands and a Glock 19 and have to agree that the grip is not the most comfortable, but it's not that bad. Guess it depends on just how small your hands are. Only way to know for sure is to try it. I usually get single-stack magazine pistols but got a good deal on the G19. I've found the trigger on the G19 to be a bit "weird" but you get used to it. Nothing that would mess me up in an emergency. No way to decock but snap-caps are cheap. My biggest "complaint" about the G19 is the safety system. Not a gun I would keep if I had kids in the house (or I'd keep it locked up, which defeats the purpose of a HP weapon). All-in-all, I'm happy with my G19 but, if you have small hands, it may not be the gun for you. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

02-23-2014, 08:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
SmoothZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arrakis Posts: 7,952 Drives: giant sandworm Rep Power: 36	I recently won a Sig P290RS ORB. Absolutely no money was spent out of pocket for me. I entered a raffle and got lucky. Love this little 9mm gun. I also ordered a lower receiver for an AR 15 I want to put together. It's from New Frontier. New Frontier Armory STRIPPED GENII AR15 Polymer Lower Receiver with Lower Parts Kits Installed __________________ "Once you go Asian, you never go Caucasian." "I talk to myself, and when I do that, I know I'm talking to an intelligent person."

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10-31-2013, 09:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	Went shooting again this past weekend and had a good, if brief, time. Honed in my technique and by the end of the day, my grouping was much closer together. My friend and I will be taking the CWP class soon, I will report back with my thoughts on that after we do... __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

11-01-2013, 04:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
tRidiot Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: OK Posts: 179 Drives: '09 370Z Sport Rep Power: 9972	Actually, it was the LAST primary lead smelting plant in the United States. And it was in Herculaneum, Missouri and had been in operation for around 120 years. The EPA instituted stricter restrictions that would have cost $100M for the plant to meet. Therefore, they decided to close down operations. Keep in mind, this is the LAST primary lead smelting plant in the country... which means no other plant can take lead ore mined out of the earth and turn it into lead ingots or lead bullion for use in things like ammunition. All new lead will either have to be mined, shipped out of the country to be smelted and brought back in, or just purchsed from a foreign source. And what foreign source has the majority of the lead market? That's right... China. Seems like it would be pretty easy for the .gov to strangle the firearms enthusiast community by cutting out the availability of affordable ammunition a lot easier than by banning the guns, doesn't it?

11-01-2013, 04:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
tRidiot Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: OK Posts: 179 Drives: '09 370Z Sport Rep Power: 9972	Here is my current AR "family portrait" - all self-built from the ground up: