Anyone here into firearms?

atx370z · 12-03-2012, 06:38 PM

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Many people feel that the M4 must be clean--absurdly so--to function.

I have OCD with my rifles... I put 50 rounds through it and I'm home tearing it apart and going over it with a white glove. Probably a little over-kill, but hey.. can't hurt and the M4 gets very dirty. One reason I got the SCAR... Shoots cleaner. Good to know that they are very reliable weapons, though.

BlackZeda · 12-03-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by atx370z

My new found hobby... Instead of a twin turbo kit build, I decided to invest in what is below.

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Nice collection! I happened to go to the gun store today looking at a SCAR 16S, but the sales guy said that standard AR mags (Magpul is mostly what I have) won't work with it. Is that a standard Magpul PMAG? Was he wrong?

atx370z · 12-03-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

Nice collection! I happened to go to the gun store today looking at a SCAR 16S, but the sales guy said that standard AR mags (Magpul is mostly what I have) won't work with it. Is that a standard Magpul PMAG? Was he wrong?

Yes, he's wrong. The old PMAG's won't work... The Gen3 PMAGS (newest ones) will work. Even the older PMAG's can be modified to work with the SCAR... All you need is a dremel and it takes literally 10 seconds.

Video shows you how to do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDmM0eN8jhc

Rooster89 · 12-03-2012, 09:05 PM

why not get the scar in 308?

atx370z · 12-03-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89

why not get the scar in 308?

Because I would never shoot it... Ammo is too expensive.

With that being said... It's definitely on my "to be bought" list. Already have my eye on a flat dark earth one at a local shop, but they have it way overpriced at 3k.

Ackrite · 12-03-2012, 10:35 PM

I like the SCAR in photos, but every time I see it in person it disappoints. The mis-matching FDE just isn't cutting it for me. I thought about getting one before, but LWRC is the shiznit and I've been very patiently waiting for my damn M6IC since march.

Rooster89 · 12-03-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by atx370z

Because I would never shoot it... Ammo is too expensive.

With that being said... It's definitely on my "to be bought" list. Already have my eye on a flat dark earth one at a local shop, but they have it way overpriced at 3k.

its sad that the 308 in black is typically 3-4 hundred dollars cheaper than 308 in fde

BlackZeda · 12-04-2012, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89

why not get the scar in 308?

If I were to get a .308 carbine I would go with a LWRC REPR.

Rooster89 · 12-04-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

If I were to get a .308 carbine I would go with a LWRC REPR.

REPR is undoubtedly one of the most accurate .308 carbines you can buy. and undoubtedly one of the porkiest. that thing is heavy.

I don't think you can compare the REPR to Scar17s. they just aren't made with the same intended purpose.
To quote my friend on this comparison, "Do you want a heavy precision rifle or a lightweight battle rifle?" "Either way, you end up with a precision rifle built well-enough to be used in combat(REPR) or a battle rifle built well-enough to be used for precision.(SCAR)"

BlackZeda · 12-04-2012, 11:25 AM

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REPR is undoubtedly one of the most accurate .308 carbines you can buy. and undoubtedly one of the porkiest. that thing is heavy.

I don't think you can compare the REPR to Scar17s. they just aren't made with the same intended purpose.
To quote my friend on this comparison, "Do you want a heavy precision rifle or a lightweight battle rifle?" "Either way, you end up with a precision rifle built well-enough to be used in combat(REPR) or a battle rifle built well-enough to be used for precision.(SCAR)"

For sure I agree with all your points. From my perspective if I were to ever be in a situation where I needed to use a rifle to protect myself, I would undoubtedly reach for my 5.56 DI AR. I am sure there are situations where soldiers need the power and accuracy of the .308 but to me an effective assault rifle would use lighter, more controllable ammo like the 5.56. One can carry a lot more ammo and the heavier REPR's recoil isn't ideal IMO.

With that being said I see either a Sako or Accuracy International (or even a Remington) .308 bolt-action rifle in my future.

My point is that I won't be buying a SCAR 17S or REPR anytime soon...

370zproject · 12-08-2012, 12:01 AM

so applied for my permit so next now that i have my tarus judge next will be the XDS anyone have one yet?

OMGiGOTaZ · 12-08-2012, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by atx370z

My new found hobby... Instead of a twin turbo kit build, I decided to invest in what is below.

Top to bottom...

Remington 700 Target Tactical .308 - Vortex Scope, Larue Picatinny Rail & Low Profile Scope Mounts, Harris Bipod

Remington 870 Tactical 12 Gauge

Ruger 10/22 - Timney 3lb Trigger + Assembly, Hogue Olive Drab Stock, Larue Picatinny Rail, Burris Fastfire III Red Dot Sight

Daniels Defense M4 5.56 - Daniels Defense Omega Rail, Aimpoint Comp M4S Red Dot, Magpul Stock & Trigger Guard, Troy Flip-down Rear Battle Sight, TangoDown Fore-grip

FN SCAR 16S 5.56 - Magpul Selector Switch, Larue ACOG Mount, TangoDown Fore-grip, Trijicon TA-31 ACOG Sight

Same decision I had to make, Upgrade the car or the Arsenal

MacCool · 12-09-2012, 10:53 AM

The word from the DOJ is that they have finally lifted their hiring freeze and among other new hires, have added 9 new NFA examiners to the 10 that are already working.

That sounds like good news for those of us who aspire to NFA weapons. However, the more paranoid among us might look with alarm at the rumor that Obama is looking at reclassifying ALL "assault weapons" as Title II firearms under the GCA. At issue within the adminstration is whether or not he can do that by Executive Order. One other question is whether or not any new AWB will have a grandfather clause for weapons existing at the time of the ban.

Historically, firearms under the NFA have been left out of the previous AWB or other federal regulation. My personal approach has been to send in Form 1's for a couple of receivers I have sitting around. They're applied for as 11.5 SBR's, even though I may put 16 inch (or other length) barrels on them. While I was at the Sheriff's office, I also had them print up several additional fingerprint cards and I'm contemplating getting NFA transfer stamps as 11.5 inch SBRs for at least one or two of my current 16 inch rifles.

Interesting times we live in.

wstar · 12-09-2012, 01:23 PM

Personally I'd go for a 5.56 AR set up for CQ stuff and a bolt-action .308 for anything longer-range, like someone mentioned above. Or if you're worried about very long range and/or hardened targets, you could replace the .308 with a bolt-action .300 WinMag or .338 Lapua. I just don't see much utility (as a ratio to inconvenience/cost/weight) to .308 or larger caliber semis, esp given they're generally slightly-less-accurate than their bolt-action counterparts.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-10-2012, 11:02 AM

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Personally I'd go for a 5.56 AR set up for CQ stuff and a bolt-action .308 for anything longer-range, like someone mentioned above. Or if you're worried about very long range and/or hardened targets, you could replace the .308 with a bolt-action .300 WinMag or .338 Lapua. I just don't see much utility (as a ratio to inconvenience/cost/weight) to .308 or larger caliber semis, esp given they're generally slightly-less-accurate than their bolt-action counterparts.

5.56 is ballistically bad for CQB imho. I'd look into 300 blackout and 6.8 if you don't want your rounds going through your target like a speeding needle. Plus you can push 122 gr rounds over 40-77 grain rounds which definately hit harder. Even the new m855a1 ammo for 5.56 cant compare to these rounds for stopping power.
IMHO, if you need OTM ammo to stop people well instead of generic FMJ rifle rounds. It's not a good defense round unless you can obtain an OTM rounds cheaply. 5.56 otm ammo is expensive. Silver state is awesome ammo at a good price for the 5.56, but currently, anything worth putting into a 5.56 rifle for CQB is sold out and prices are upmarket. For that i'd support a round that with enough sales, prices will drop and you can get more effective stopping power with a basic round. 6.8 and .300blackout have devastating affects on targets both CQ and LR.

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wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Personally I'd go for a 5.56 AR set up for CQ stuff and a bolt-action .308 for anything longer-range, like someone mentioned above. Or if you're worried about very long range and/or hardened targets, you could replace the .308 with a bolt-action .300 WinMag or .338 Lapua. I just don't see much utility (as a ratio to inconvenience/cost/weight) to .308 or larger caliber semis, esp given they're generally slightly-less-accurate than their bolt-action counterparts. OMGiGOTaZ likes this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details Last edited by wstar; 12-09-2012 at 01:27 PM.

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Ackrite Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: fontana, ca Posts: 190 Drives: '12 White Nismo Z Rep Power: 13	I like the SCAR in photos, but every time I see it in person it disappoints. The mis-matching FDE just isn't cutting it for me. I thought about getting one before, but LWRC is the shiznit and I've been very patiently waiting for my damn M6IC since march.

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MacCool A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,349 Drives: 370Z PW 2014 Rep Power: 16	The word from the DOJ is that they have finally lifted their hiring freeze and among other new hires, have added 9 new NFA examiners to the 10 that are already working. That sounds like good news for those of us who aspire to NFA weapons. However, the more paranoid among us might look with alarm at the rumor that Obama is looking at reclassifying ALL "assault weapons" as Title II firearms under the GCA. At issue within the adminstration is whether or not he can do that by Executive Order. One other question is whether or not any new AWB will have a grandfather clause for weapons existing at the time of the ban. Historically, firearms under the NFA have been left out of the previous AWB or other federal regulation. My personal approach has been to send in Form 1's for a couple of receivers I have sitting around. They're applied for as 11.5 SBR's, even though I may put 16 inch (or other length) barrels on them. While I was at the Sheriff's office, I also had them print up several additional fingerprint cards and I'm contemplating getting NFA transfer stamps as 11.5 inch SBRs for at least one or two of my current 16 inch rifles. Interesting times we live in.