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Rusty 04-16-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeeingAround (Post 3992188)
Bought 1000 9mm bullets for .12 ea > Last year paid .08 for a working round. Primers are more than bullets . FFS I hate this . I think the only way to come out ahead is barter with others.

Primers are going for a buck a piece at some places. :eek:

I got a great supply of lead bullets for 9mm, 38/357, 40/10mm, 44, and 45 ACP. I cast my own bullets. :tup: Also got about 300 lbs of lead alloy sitting under my work bench too waiting to be cast. :tup:

Rusty 04-16-2021 11:21 AM

Looking at getting some 10 round mags for my RPR. It uses Accuracy International mags. The cheapest place I found is Optics Planet. They list for $186.63 each. :eek: They have them on sale for $136.26. I wanted 5, but think for now. I'll just get 2.

ZeeingAround 04-16-2021 02:04 PM

Is that 6.5 Creedmoor?

Rusty 04-16-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeingAround (Post 3992232)
Is that 6.5 Creedmoor?

338 Lapua Magnum.

bunk 04-18-2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3992113)
Looking for Alliant RL 26 and Hodgdon H1000 powder. Nothing on that sight. On Gunbroker. H1000 is bidding at $410 for 8lbs. The reserve hasn't been met yet. It normally goes for $233.

I might be able to retire if I auctioned off all my powder brass bullets and primers. :rofl2:

Ghostvette 04-19-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3992394)
I might be able to retire if I auctioned off all my powder brass bullets and primers. :rofl2:

I've got some brass that I don't reload for. I'll have to dig out the list and post it on GB, make a little car mod money. Who knows, I might get enough to buy the JDM tails I want. :tup:

bunk 04-19-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3992501)
I've got some brass that I don't reload for. I'll have to dig out the list and post it on GB, make a little car mod money. Who knows, I might get enough to buy the JDM tails I want. :tup:

A RSO at the range I go to had given me a few thousand 30-06 brass for the Garand, all neatly placed in the original packaging that they came in. Someone who had decided to give up on reloading just gave it to him and told him to find them a good home. :excited:

Rusty 04-28-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3992209)
Looking at getting some 10 round mags for my RPR. It uses Accuracy International mags. The cheapest place I found is Optics Planet. They list for $186.63 each. :eek: They have them on sale for $136.26. I wanted 5, but think for now. I'll just get 2.

The 2 mags come in today. And they don't fit. :shakes head: They're a double stack mag, not a single stack. The wbsite sid they would fit. :icon14: They're going back tomorrow.

Rusty 04-28-2021 10:39 PM

Just scored 8lbs of Vihtavuori 24N41 powder for $289.00 for the 338. Midway had it.

VABAM 04-29-2021 11:32 PM

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

One lucky MFr!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1449kJKxlMQ

Rusty 04-30-2021 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3993650)
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

One lucky MFr!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1449kJKxlMQ

I just watched this early tonight. :eek: Stick a thumb in it. :tup:

Ghostvette 04-30-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3993651)
I just watched this early tonight. :eek: Stick a thumb in it. :tup:

I might have to get a shirt. :tup:


That was hard to watch. Looking at the muzzle flash between the first & second SLAP round and the APT round, I'd have been real leery of another SLAP round. That second SLAP round was pretty hot...:eekdance:

Rusty 04-30-2021 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3993679)
I might have to get a shirt. :tup:


That was hard to watch. Looking at the muzzle flash between the first & second SLAP round and the APT round, I'd have been real leery of another SLAP round. That second SLAP round was pretty hot...:eekdance:

I wonder where the SLAP rounds were from? If from an old Eastern block country. Think I know what happened.

VABAM 04-30-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3993679)
That was hard to watch. Looking at the muzzle flash between the first & second SLAP round and the APT round, I'd have been real leery of another SLAP round. That second SLAP round was pretty hot...:eekdance:

Painful lesson on why it is important to pay attention to what your gun/ammo is doing.

Thank God he survived. His recovery has been remarkable too.

TBH, I'm not familiar with SLAP rounds so I more than likely would have made the same mistake. Honestly, most of us would have made that mistake so I can't blame him at all. There was subtle red flags that most of us would have missed. Hindsight is 20/20. Makes me wonder it there might have been a noticeable weight difference in the rounds. A round that hot makes me think double load or way hotter powder was used in that round. I wonder if he has any more that round can be taken apart to see if there is an explanation of why that one round was so hot.


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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3993686)
I wonder where the SLAP rounds were from? If from an old Eastern block country. Think I know what happened.

Not sure where they're from but he claimed it was unmolested military surplus. What do you think happened?

Ghostvette 04-30-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3993692)
Painful lesson on why it is important to pay attention to what your gun/ammo is doing.

Thank God he survived. His recovery has been remarkable too.

TBH, I'm not familiar with SLAP rounds so I more than likely would have made the same mistake. Honestly, most of us would have made that mistake so I can't blame him at all. There was subtle red flags that most of us would have missed. Hindsight is 20/20. Makes me wonder it there might have been a noticeable weight difference in the rounds. A round that hot makes me think double load or way hotter powder was used in that round. I wonder if he has any more that round can be taken apart to see if there is an explanation of why that one round was so hot.




Not sure where they're from but he claimed it was unmolested military surplus. What do you think happened?

I'm going to guess that the sabot got stuck in the barrel. With that type of breech, he should have inspected the bore prior to loading another round. :twocents:

VABAM 04-30-2021 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3993695)
I'm going to guess that the sabot got stuck in the barrel. With that type of breech, he should have inspected the bore prior to loading another round. :twocents:

I would have the same opinion as you, but he shot a non-SLAP round before the one that exploded and the previous round was logged in the back of the fire hydrant. Anybody would reasonable assume that the bore was clear of obstructions.

VABAM 04-30-2021 12:17 PM

I'll say this, him shooting a pistol at the end of the vid was nice. To me it seamed like he was a little hesitant pulling that trigger on that first shot. Don't know why...:rolleyes: The smile he gave after that first shot made me happy. No body would blame him if he took a break from shooting.

Ghostvette 04-30-2021 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3993697)
I would have the same opinion as you, but he shot a non-SLAP round before the one that exploded and the previous round was logged in the back of the fire hydrant. Anybody would reasonable assume that the bore was clear of obstructions.

That would be a reasonable presumption. The previous round being stuck in the fire hydrant and not exiting completely, when others had penetrated through, might have been a good excuse to take a look. We don't know if he pulled the bullet out of they hydrant to take a look at it or not. It's possible that part of the bullet remained behind in the barrel. What happened to that rifle has the earmarks of a obstructed barrel. Then again, I had a semi-auto Thompson copy come back to the gun shop I worked at with 6 230 grain 45 ACP bullets stuck in the bore and it didn't come apart... :icon14:

Rusty 04-30-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3993692)

Not sure where they're from but he claimed it was unmolested military surplus. What do you think happened?

If this was the late '70's, during the Cold War.
And the ammo was from an eastern bloc commie country. I know exactly what happened. The ammo was stolen. Messed with, and put back where it was stolen from. And I may or may not had my fingers in it. :rolleyes:

Ghostvette 04-30-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3993701)
If this was the late '70's, during the Cold War.
And the ammo was from an eastern bloc commie country. I know exactly what happened. The ammo was stolen. Messed with, and put back where it was stolen from. And I may or may not had my fingers in it. :rolleyes:

Ah yes, the outgrowth of a CIA/Green Beret project that put the oddball sabotaged round into selected ammo caches.... I've heard of that project. :tup:

I just wasn't aware it continued into the late 70s.... :eek:

Spooler 04-30-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3993701)
If this was the late '70's, during the Cold War.
And the ammo was from an eastern bloc commie country. I know exactly what happened. The ammo was stolen. Messed with, and put back where it was stolen from. And I may or may not had my fingers in it. :rolleyes:

Someone needs to tell the dude not to shoot anymore of that ammo.

Rusty 04-30-2021 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3993702)
Ah yes, the outgrowth of a CIA/Green Beret project that put the oddball sabotaged round into selected ammo caches.... I've heard of that project. :tup:

I just wasn't aware it continued into the late 70s.... :eek:

We were still doing it up to the fall of the Berlin Wall. Did it in Vietnam too.

Steal a case of ammo. CAREFULLY open up the case. Pull a couple rounds apart. Under charge a few rounds. Over charge a few rounds. We would also test the ballistics of a few rounds. We KNEW exactly what they was using. CAREFULLY put everything back in the case. Making it look like it was never opened. And then put the case of ammo back where we got it from. We used to pay the locals to steal it, and then put it back. We did small arms, all the way up to mortar's.

The under charged rounds would stick a bullet in the barrel. The over charged rounds would blow the action apart. The mortar's. The under charged rounds would go a few yards. The over charged rounds would kill everyone around it. The reason for all of this. Is each case of ammo is just part of a larger lot of ammo. When an "accident" happened. They would have to pull the whole lot of ammo out of service. You maybe talking about 1000's of cases out of service until they finished their investigation. This really played hell with their supply chain. :rofl2: Do a couple of different lots of ammo at the same time. You could shut down a whole division. What soldier wants to shoot bad ammo. The moral would also sink.

In Vietnam. We would do our own ammo and AK rounds, and place the cases along trails the VC used. They would find the cases of ammo and try to use it. It didn't end well for some of them.



You didn't read this from me.

VABAM 04-30-2021 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3993713)
....You didn't read this from me.

;)

VABAM 05-12-2021 08:06 AM

Did you guys see this update?

Supposedly the threads of the cap could hold up to 161K PSI! :eek:

Either way that was one hooooooooot round. :eekdance:

Also the possibility of those SLAP rounds bing fraudulent is looking more likely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na1Qo7FxDeM

Ghostvette 05-12-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3994877)
Did you guys see this update?

Supposedly the threads of the cap could hold up to 161K PSI! :eek:

Either way that was one hooooooooot round. :eekdance:

Also the possibility of those SLAP rounds bing fraudulent is looking more likely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na1Qo7FxDeM

Yeah.....:eekdance:

And if it came from Eastern Europe, it could have been 'modified'... :ugh2:

Rusty 05-12-2021 10:11 AM

I seen the video last night. Did you see the pictures of the SLAP rounds? The regular rounds have a split sabot with a crimp. The Other rounds have no splits in the sabot and no crimp. Would like to see the rounds from KB. Tear them apart and measure the powder charge in all of them.

VABAM 05-12-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3994889)
I seen the video last night. Did you see the pictures of the SLAP rounds? The regular rounds have a split sabot with a crimp. The Other rounds have no splits in the sabot and no crimp. Would like to see the rounds from KB.

Yep! I’m eagerly awaiting Serbu’s analysis of the rifle and remaining rounds. Hopefully KB ships the rifle and ammo this week like what Serbu said.

VABAM 05-12-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3994884)
Yeah.....:eekdance:

And if it came from Eastern Europe, it could have been 'modified'... :ugh2:

Hey! I thought we didn’t read that. :rolleyes: ;)




Freakin Rusty trying to take out YouTubers. :shakes head:

:D

:rofl2:

Rusty 05-12-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3994892)
Hey! I thought we didn’t read that. :rolleyes: ;)




Freakin Rusty trying to take out YouTubers. :shakes head:

:D

:rofl2:

They would have to made in the late 1970's for me to have my ........ in them. And from a eastern block commie country.

VABAM 05-12-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3994899)
They would have to made in the late 1970's for me to have my ........ in them. And from a eastern block commie country.

Riiiiiiiiiight. ;) :rofl2:

Ghostvette 05-12-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3994899)
They would have to made in the late 1970's for me to have my ........ in them. And from a eastern block commie country.

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3994901)
Riiiiiiiiiight. ;) :rofl2:

I didn't pay attention to the headstamps, that would have shown approximate time frame. :twocents:

Rusty 05-29-2021 09:30 PM

Pay attention around 2:42 mark.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF6xqFWB2fw

VABAM 05-29-2021 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3996816)
Pay attention around 2:42 mark.
..........

:tup: ;)

VABAM 06-08-2021 10:51 PM

You guys seen this **** yet?

At least it is just a proposal at this point. :shakes head:

ammoland.com/2021/06/atf-released-new-proposed-pistol-brace-rules


The proposal:
https://www.atf.gov/file/154871/download

Rusty 06-08-2021 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3997976)
You guys seen this **** yet?

At least it is just a proposal at this point. :shakes head:

ammoland.com/2021/06/atf-released-new-proposed-pistol-brace-rules


The proposal:
https://www.atf.gov/file/154871/download

I've read that. :shakes head:

VABAM 06-08-2021 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3997977)
I've read that. :shakes head:

I've been reading through the proposal. The article is a little misleading and missing facts. Like the 13.5" thing is referring to length of pull not OAL. Also the 2 determination points against red dots isn't red dots by themselves but red dots with magnifiers because they have limited eye relief. Basically any sights, magnifiers, scopes, etc. that have limited eye relief, that can't be used at arm length are points against the weapon when determining if it is a SBR or Pistol. That's why BUIS are a dink against the weapon too because they think BUIS or any rifle sights can't be used at arm length. I kind of see ATF's point about sights that encourages or requires "shouldering" the weapon for proper use but I say how about we repeal the NFA. It's dated and not to mention racist and classist in origin. :roflpuke2:

Ghostvette 06-09-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3997982)
I've been reading through the proposal. The article is a little misleading and missing facts. Like the 13.5" thing is referring to length of pull not OAL. Also the 2 determination points against red dots isn't red dots by themselves but red dots with magnifiers because they have limited eye relief. Basically any sights, magnifiers, scopes, etc. that have limited eye relief, that can't be used at arm length are points against the weapon when determining if it is a SBR or Pistol. That's why BUIS are a dink against the weapon too because they think BUIS or any rifle sights can't be used at arm length. I kind of see ATF's point about sights that encourages or requires "shouldering" the weapon for proper use but I say how about we repeal the NFA. It's dated and not to mention racist and classist in origin. :roflpuke2:

Any law that violates the Constitution is unconstitutional. The $200 'transfer tax' is essentially a 'tax to exercise a right', aka a poll tax. The poll tax was struck down by SCOTUS as unconstitutional. ;)

ZeeingAround 06-11-2021 10:19 AM

RPK build time!
Lower is here. Just waiting for the rest to get here.

VABAM 06-11-2021 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeeingAround (Post 3998353)
RPK build time!
Lower is here. Just waiting for the rest to get here.

:leghump:

Rusty 06-11-2021 01:05 PM

Local gun shop got 3 S&W M&P 15 pistols in. All are 556. I almost most bought one yesterday. They're going for $850.00.


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