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Originally Posted by takemorepills Would boosting your car with an aftermarket SC or turbo kit run afoul of this initiative/legislation/rule whatever TF it is? Probably. Under this rule, the EPA

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Old 03-18-2021, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Would boosting your car with an aftermarket SC or turbo kit run afoul of this initiative/legislation/rule whatever TF it is?
Probably. Under this rule, the EPA would ban all turbo/SC kits and anything that would alter the vehicle emissions.
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Would boosting your car with an aftermarket SC or turbo kit run afoul of this initiative/legislation/rule whatever TF it is?
If you go by the "letter of the law" any engine modification to air / fuel / spark has always been illegal, unless you have done the testing/approval ($$$) to get an "Executive Order" EO#.

Like this one for a 370z Stillen Cold Air Intake System:
https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/afterm...o/d-436-21.pdf

If the state doesn't have an emission inspection/test, only you would know.
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If you go by the "letter of the law" any engine modification to air / fuel / spark has always been illegal, unless you have done the testing/approval ($$$) to get an "Executive Order" EO#.

Like this one for a 370z Stillen Cold Air Intake System:
https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/afterm...o/d-436-21.pdf

If the state doesn't have an emission inspection/test, only you would know.
I've been aware of that for a while.

The real sticking point is getting approval.

It's completely possible for the right kind of setup to pass dyno-roller emissions testings no problem. They could just have a program setup with a standardized test to have a car dyno-roller emission tested after being tuned/modified to confirm compliance. No need for all of the hoops and paperwork.

This reeks of the same over-reach as the vehicle importing laws regarding 25 year old imports.
The Feds know that you can build a tuned car that will still meet emissions standards, and the Feds know that many of the JDM/EDM cars are the exact same cars we get here. But they try to throw cover on us and say that they "haven't been tested for compliance" as if that even matters. Then they hop on a private jet and fly around somehow on a $160K/yr "salary" polluting 1,000x more than their entire represented state's tuned-car population.

It's totally ridiculous, especially at the twilight of ICE cars.

I used to modify OBD1 cars back in "the day" when all emissions tests (in my area) were done on dyno-rollers. Those cars always passed (1992 Integra with a B20 swap and turbo kit passed no prob).

They are just looking for ways to justify the cost of the ever-expanding bureaucracy.

Soon, we'll have Feds standing next to our toilets to ensure we don't use too much toilet paper.

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