The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies) XXXVI

Rusty · 04-23-2020, 12:52 AM

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Changing the subject, has Kim Jong Un popped his clogs? You know the little fella whose country got upset because British barbers mocked his hair style (he made trumps look good) don’t forget Boris looks like a pidgeon has bested on his bonce. But if the little industrious Korean little fella has snuffed it, have a heart and sing along with his old man

https://youtu.be/UEaKX9YYHiQ

Another great, America gave us, Team America and Chuck Norris

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Last reports. The little chit is still kicking. Some say that he had heart surgery, and that he is recovering in some villa in NK.

BettyZ · 04-23-2020, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I have neighbors with zero money coming in. Been out of work since the end of Feb. Self employed. Can't get unemployment in this state. These people was making 6 figure incomes. And have the bills to match. The bills keep coming in. They can't pay them. V to V. What would you do? Try to go back to work, or let the banks take back the house and the vehicles that you worked so hard to get. Tough decision? Until you have been in their shoes. You really don't know on how it feels to tell your kids that they might have to move out of the house.

Exactly. On one hand, you know there is a small chance of catching a disease. If you do catch it, you will very likely survive.

On the other hand, you know, for a certainty, that what you've built over the course of your life, how you feed your family, your pursuit of the American Dream, will be destroyed if you can't work.

vtec to vvel · 04-23-2020, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I have neighbors with zero money coming in. Been out of work since the end of Feb. Self employed. Can't get unemployment in this state. These people was making 6 figure incomes. And have the bills to match. The bills keep coming in. They can't pay them. V to V. What would you do? Try to go back to work, or let the banks take back the house and the vehicles that you worked so hard to get. Tough decision? Until you have been in their shoes. You really don't know on how it feels to tell your kids that they might have to move out of the house.

Wasn't trying to start a debate and my sincerest apologies if I offended anyone.

My inlaws have their own business also and they, too, have ZERO coming in because of this covid-19 sh!t. I am one of the fortunate few to have a job that pays, and I am helping out my inlaws as much as I can with finances. I've known my father inlaw since I was about 7, as he was my taekwondo instructor and a tough MOFO, but saw him cry for the first time last month because he was in a sticky situation to where he wasn't able to pay for the notes on his company and personal vehicles, the commercial space he has leased out, nor his mortgage.

Before the wifey was diagnosed with severe depression/anxiety this past fall, we were pulling in almost $200k/year, and we were used to a certain lifestyle. Luckily, we didn't live too far outside of our means and were big on saving, but still have our debts. Took a huge demotion and paycut at work because I started law school. The money we were saving as a down payment for a house is nearly gone and the money we had in separate savings has been gone for about a month. What we had in savings took us 10 years to build up and reduced to nearly nothing in a matter of almost 2 months

So I get it. COVID-19 or not, bills are coming in and have to be paid and we still have to eat. I just wish there was a plan to come to a medium compromise to where businesses are opening back up responsibly and where the virus itself is declining. Even with businesses opening back up, I don't think people are comfortable to just going back to pre-covid-19 times.

Rusty · 04-23-2020, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

I do see it from both points of view, and both sides have valid points. BUT, based on the media (and I get to take this with a grain of salt), protestors are being reckless and we are moving backwards and losing ground to this virus. I'm for opening up businesses, as I will be visiting strip clubs, but, if we are not making progress with this virus, then humanity will disappear. I think both sides should come to a medium.

We had protests in my state capital of Harrisburg the other day. Local news won't show any footage of the protests. The protests only got a 90 second spot on the news.

From people that was there. Said that there was a couple thousand people there. You will find very little about the protest on facecrap, twatter, etc.

BettyZ · 04-23-2020, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

I do see it from both points of view, and both sides have valid points. BUT, based on the media (and I get to take this with a grain of salt), protestors are being reckless and we are moving backwards and losing ground to this virus. I'm for opening up businesses, as I will be visiting strip clubs, but, if we are not making progress with this virus, then humanity will disappear. I think both sides should come to a medium.

Thing to remember: MSM is mostly NYC-based. All the stories are about the situation in a dense-packed hyper-urban core with mass transit as the only real means of transportation. NYC does not describe Topeka, or Grand Rapids, or Pennsyltucky, or the majority of the rest of America.

Media focuses on what brings in viewers and plays to their base. Pictures of a hundred yahoos with Trump flags, plate carriers, and slung ARs outside Half-Wit's offices brings clicks. Pics of thousands of distance-abiding persons driving around in their cars protesting, doesn't.

Medium in politics became untenable as soon as MSM and social media framed the issue as Red vs.Blue, Trump supporters vs. the false god of unproven scientific theory.

We've avoided a collapse of the hospital system. Thst was the purpose of the lockdowns. Thst purpose is now moot, unless more outbreaks flare up.

Dump the decision on the free market and the People. If you don't feel safe going out, the past few weeks have proven there are plenty of services that allow you to stay fed and happy in the confines of your home. But everyone else's hopes and dreams cannot be allowed to crumble for anything but the gravest of reasons.

vtec to vvel · 04-23-2020, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

Thing to remember: MSM is mostly NYC-based. All the stories are about the situation in a dense-packed hyper-urban core with mass transit as the only real means of transportation. NYC does not describe Topeka, or Grand Rapids, or Pennsyltucky, or the majority of the rest of America.

Media focuses on what brings in viewers and plays to their base. Pictures of a hundred yahoos with Trump flags, plate carriers, and slung ARs outside Half-Wit's offices brings clicks. Pics of thousands of distance-abiding persons driving around in their cars protesting, doesn't.

Medium in politics became untenable as soon as MSM and social media framed the issue as Red vs.Blue, Trump supporters vs. the false god of unproven scientific theory.

We've avoided a collapse of the hospital system. Thst was the purpose of the lockdowns. Thst purpose is now moot, unless more outbreaks flare up.

Dump the decision on the free market and the People. I'd you don't feel safe going out, the past few weeks have proven there are plenty of services that allow you to stay fed and happy in the confines of your home.

Agreed. Media tends to only give one side of the story, and always seems to focus on the bad, rather than the bad and the good. Countless stories on how many people are infected/died, but very seldom on successful recovery stories.

I can't help but think and equate the opening of businesses so soon and at once to the mass gatherings at the beaches during spring break in the midst of the outbreak.

BettyZ · 04-23-2020, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Wasn't trying to start a debate and my sincerest apologies if I offended anyone.

My inlaws have their own business also and they, too, have ZERO coming in because of this covid-19 sh!t. I am one of the fortunate few to have a job that pays, and I am helping out my inlaws as much as I can with finances. I've known my father inlaw since I was about 7, as he was my taekwondo instructor and a tough MOFO, but saw him cry for the first time last month because he was in a sticky situation to where he wasn't able to pay for the notes on his company and personal vehicles, the commercial space he has leased out, nor his mortgage.

Before the wifey was diagnosed with severe depression/anxiety this past fall, we were pulling in almost $200k/year, and we were used to a certain lifestyle. Luckily, we didn't live too far outside of our means and were big on saving, but still have our debts. Took a huge demotion and paycut at work because I started law school. The money we were saving as a down payment for a house is nearly gone and the money we had in separate savings has been gone for about a month. What we had in savings took us 10 years to build up and reduced to nearly nothing in a matter of almost 2 months

So I get it. COVID-19 or not, bills are coming in and have to be paid and we still have to eat. I just wish there was a plan to come to a medium compromise to where businesses are opening back up responsibly and where the virus itself is declining. Even with businesses opening back up, I don't think people are comfortable to just going back to pre-covid-19 times.

No offense taken. Except for your going to law school. Are you out of your damn mind?! Both the GF and I are attorneys, for our sins, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone - except maybe JAR.

I appreciate that you can have a grounded rational discussion ab this. Spooler would be shouting ab Wuhan chemtrails and CCP bats in the sky when really he took too much mescaline, while ZCanada would be too busy feklating the Queen to respond.

Rusty · 04-23-2020, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Wasn't trying to start a debate and my sincerest apologies if I offended anyone.

My inlaws have their own business also and they, too, have ZERO coming in because of this covid-19 sh!t. I am one of the fortunate few to have a job that pays, and I am helping out my inlaws as much as I can with finances. I've known my father inlaw since I was about 7, as he was my taekwondo instructor and a tough MOFO, but saw him cry for the first time last month because he was in a sticky situation to where he wasn't able to pay for the notes on his company and personal vehicles, the commercial space he has leased out, nor his mortgage.

Before the wifey was diagnosed with severe depression/anxiety this past fall, we were pulling in almost $200k/year, and we were used to a certain lifestyle. Luckily, we didn't live too far outside of our means and were big on saving, but still have our debts. Took a huge demotion and paycut at work because I started law school. The money we were saving as a down payment for a house is nearly gone and the money we had in separate savings has been gone for about a month. What we had in savings took us 10 years to build up and reduced to nearly nothing in a matter of almost 2 months

So I get it. COVID-19 or not, bills are coming in and have to be paid and we still have to eat. I just wish there was a plan to come to a medium compromise to where businesses are opening back up responsibly and where the virus itself is declining. Even with businesses opening back up, I don't think people are comfortable to just going back to pre-covid-19 times.

No problem.

I seen this whole scenario before. I lived. Back in the early 80's. Around here in western Pa. The coal mines and steel mills shut down. Thousands of people were left jobless. The mines and mills never came back. People were making big money with these jobs. Easy 6 figures with overtime. A house, car, truck, motorcycle, boat, guns, etc. The way it happened after lots of friends lost their jobs. First to go was the boat, then the bike, next the play toys, the truck, all of the guns but for one. When it got down to the house that was left. That's when the divorce happened. After that was the suicides. I lost a few friends from that. Seen a lot of good families ripped apart. The saying around here at the time was. "It's a recession when your neighbor gets laid off. It's a depression when you get laid off."

On the news every night was stories of people getting robbed coming out of grocery stories. The robbers wasn't taking the money. They was taking the food. Most of all the victims said the same thing. The robber said that he has kids to feed. He wants the food, not the money.

To me, seeing whats going on around me. Feels like I'm seeing history repeating. And it's following the same time line.

Rusty · 04-23-2020, 01:37 AM

Riddle me this Batman.

Back in Jan. CDC said no need for masks. So no masks were being worn for the most part by most people. Virus has started to peak in most areas lately. A week ago. To go out anywhere. Now I have to wear a mask.

So for over 3 months, I haven't worn a mask during the time where I would have the greatest chance of getting the virus. You would think that the CDC should have said back in Jan. Feb. You need to wear a mask. Why I am slamming my head into a wall trying to understand this mess.

vtec to vvel · 04-23-2020, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

No offense taken. Except for your going to law school. Are you out of your damn mind?! Both the GF and I are attorneys, for our sins, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone - except maybe JAR.

I appreciate that you can have a grounded rational discussion ab this. Spooler would be shouting ab Wuhan chemtrails and CCP bats in the sky when really he took too much mescaline, while ZCanada would be too busy feklating the Queen to respond.

I envy you both. I should have just gone directly to law school after finishing undergrad, but better late than never right? Law school was always the plan, but just needed time to find what direction I wanted to take.

We all have our opinions and even disagreements, but that's what makes us who we are. We're all friends and brothers/sisters at the end of the day.

vtec to vvel · 04-23-2020, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

No problem.

I seen this whole scenario before. I lived. Back in the early 80's. Around here in western Pa. The coal mines and steel mills shut down. Thousands of people were left jobless. The mines and mills never came back. People were making big money with these jobs. Easy 6 figures with overtime. A house, car, truck, motorcycle, boat, guns, etc. The way it happened after lots of friends lost their jobs. First to go was the boat, then the bike, next the play toys, the truck, all of the guns but for one. When it got down to the house that was left. That's when the divorce happened. After that was the suicides. I lost a few friends from that. Seen a lot of good families ripped apart. The saying around here at the time was. "It's a recession when your neighbor gets laid off. It's a depression when you get laid off."

On the news every night was stories of people getting robbed coming out of grocery stories. The robbers wasn't taking the money. They was taking the food. Most of all the victims said the same thing. The robber said that he has kids to feed. He wants the food, not the money.

To me, seeing whats going on around me. Feels like I'm seeing history repeating. And it's following the same time line.

You've posted this before somewhere and recently, as I remember reading it. That's some crazy sh!t.

vtec to vvel · 04-23-2020, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Riddle me this Batman.

Back in Jan. CDC said no need for masks. So no masks were being worn for the most part by most people. Virus has started to peak in most areas lately. A week ago. To go out anywhere. Now I have to wear a mask.

So for over 3 months, I haven't worn a mask during the time where I would have the greatest chance of getting the virus. You would think that the CDC should have said back in Jan. Feb. You need to wear a mask. Why I am slamming my head into a wall trying to understand this mess.

Same thing was said about Vitamin C by the media, how it won't help you. Well, Vitamin C theoretically helps your immune system, which is what fights off infections and viruses. I've stockpiled on EmergenC a few months back when it was cheap and readily available. I go to stores now, and can't find them anywhere.

Zingston · 04-23-2020, 01:53 AM

vtec to vvel · 04-23-2020, 01:55 AM

Oh yeah, this reminds me, of all the times when JC was out and about on this forum at weird hours.

JC, where you at?

And where errbody at? Because I'z still up

Zoren 370 · 04-23-2020, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler

Installed a ceiling fan today - because it reminds me of strips of bacon.

I just love waking up and staring up in the air and seeing whirling pieces of pork over me... of course, I mean the fan blades...

I think I posted something about this that I saw spoiler sleeping with his mouth gapping wide while dozen slabs of bacon hanging on his ceiling fan its like he is waiting one bacon at a time dropping straight to his mouth!

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vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: In a house Posts: 4,026 Drives: Z Rep Power: 502911	Oh yeah, this reminds me, of all the times when JC was out and about on this forum at weird hours. JC, where you at? And where errbody at? Because I'z still up Rusty and Spoiler like this.

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