The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies) XXXV

vtec to vvel · 04-06-2020, 11:46 PM

Looks like we will be holding worship/theology services online @ the370z.com. Someone set up a thread and we can have prayer meetings! Bring your Bibles!

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I would love to discuss theology with you but this is not the medium to do so. What I will say all thing evil or sin related started with Adam and Eve. Original sin has led to the mess we live with today!

I know that is only one belief system but basically all believe systems come to the same conclusion. Man is his own worse enemy. The gift is life we all get to choose which path we take and what we do with that gift.

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What about the fall of Lucifer and the reason he fell? This was way before Adam/Eve.

I have always wondered about free will. God gave humans free will, however, He knows what route humans will choose, which leads me to this: God knows who will go to Heaven/Hell before that individual is born. So why create that individual? If He knows what will happen to a specific person, then there is no way to change the course of that person's destiny.

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Originally Posted by JLarson

The counterpoint is that God didn't put Job through that. Satan did. God merely withdrew his protection so it could happen. Whether or not that difference means anything to you is dependent on whether or not you think God is somehow obligated to protect people. The rabbit hole can go pretty deep in theology.

Piggybacking on my post above about free will, so God knew Lucifer would fall, but yet still created him. Why?

If Satan wasn't created, then Adam/Eve would have never been tempted to each from the Tree, and we'd all still be in Eden. If Satan wasn't created, Job would not have been on the brink of death and insanity. If Satan wasn't created, Christ wouldn't have had to been brutally (for lack of better words) crucified.

Note: Not trying to start a debate. I'm just really curious.

Rusty · 04-06-2020, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by asht

How many shredded wheat can you eat?

I used to take the piss out of Americans “needing” to own a gun. But the cuntish kids in the UK seem to know better than anyone. Knock on the door, “they can get the virus”

Been introduced to Mr Beretta and Mr Sig Sauer. I always knew there was a job for the laser sights when I don’t own a laser pointer

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The longer this goes on. The worse it's going to get.

Rule of Life. The police will not protect you. They come after the fact and investigate. You have to look out after yourself. Because no one else will.

We have a fear of our own gov't. It goes back to our beginnings. Just before the revolutionary war. The British fearing a war. Started to take our guns and weapons off of us. Thinking that if they disarm us. We will be easier to rule over. And not fight back. So from that, is one of the reasons for the 2nd Amendment. We distrust any gov't. Remember, we as a whole. Are people from other countries that no one else wanted. People fleeing their home countries want to come here to escape their gov't's.

asht · 04-07-2020, 12:10 AM

I’m up for a prayer session.

Believe it or not, i am missing ringing the church bell

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jchammond · 04-07-2020, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Looks like we will be holding worship/theology services online @ the370z.com. Someone set up a thread and we can have prayer meetings! Bring your Bibles!

What about the fall of Lucifer and the reason he fell? This was way before Adam/Eve.

I have always wondered about free will. God gave humans free will, however, He knows what route humans will choose, which leads me to this: God knows who will go to Heaven/Hell before that individual is born. So why create that individual? If He knows what will happen to a specific person, then there is no way to change the course of that person's destiny.

Piggybacking on my post above about free will, so God knew Lucifer would fall, but yet still created him. Why?

If Satan wasn't created, then Adam/Eve would have never been tempted to each from the Tree, and we'd all still be in Eden. If Satan wasn't created, Job would not have been on the brink of death and insanity. If Satan wasn't created, Christ wouldn't have had to been brutally (for lack of better words) crucified.

Note: Not trying to start a debate. I'm just really curious.

Most importantly Jesus came along & gave everyone opportunity to have eternal life

The only Perfect one to walk the earth; yet was crucified

He carried all of our sins to Calvary & cleanses us with his blood

Trust & Obey, as there is no other way...Jesus our Lord & Savior

jchammond · 04-07-2020, 03:50 AM

Well, I got 6hrs sleep

Small chance of rain today & I want to get my door off loaded.
Gotta inspect it & instructions, as I have lumber to build up the front side

Hopefully I’ll have all the framing & bracing finished up by next week & start sheathing it

jchammond · 04-07-2020, 03:51 AM

T-69

jchammond · 04-07-2020, 03:53 AM

Headed to fire up the countertop cammer & gets myself awakening up

So far, no fram bamming on my door

jchammond · 04-07-2020, 03:55 AM

And now the strumming begins

asht · 04-07-2020, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond

Most importantly Jesus came along & gave everyone opportunity to have eternal life

The only Perfect one to walk the earth; yet was crucified

He carried all of our sins to Calvary & cleanses us with his blood

Trust & Obey, as there is no other way...Jesus our Lord & Savior

Not a bad quote. I’ve found faith. Praying you are all safe

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asht · 04-07-2020, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond

Headed to fire up the countertop cammer & gets myself awakening up

So far, no fram bamming on my door

I think you need a Hammond Organ.

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jchammond · 04-07-2020, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by asht

I think you need a Hammond Organ.

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Just all the bedroom doors have vents in the lower portion to ensure all the air circulates through the House & the cat scratches it in a strumming fashion

asht · 04-07-2020, 04:19 AM

That saucepan looks like it has cowboy food

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jchammond · 04-07-2020, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by asht

Not a bad quote. I’ve found faith. Praying you are all safe

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Thanks for the Prayers, as they don’t hurt anyone for sure

Took me over 27yrs. to get the Faith

jchammond · 04-07-2020, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by asht

That saucepan looks like it has cowboy food

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I see you’re 5hrs ahead of me & appears to have some nice weather

BoneZ · 04-07-2020, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond

Most importantly Jesus came along & gave everyone opportunity to have eternal life

The only Perfect one to walk the earth; yet was crucified

He carried all of our sins to Calvary & cleanses us with his blood

Trust & Obey, as there is no other way...Jesus our Lord & Savior

On March 26th, 20 at the start of our quarantine, I turned to Isaiah 26:20. It was eerily coincidental. It reads, "Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast."

04-07-2020, 12:10 AM	#9513 (permalink)
asht Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 494 Drives: 2010 370z Roadster Rep Power: 117450	I’m up for a prayer session. Believe it or not, i am missing ringing the church bell Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hotrodz and old guy like this.

04-07-2020, 03:50 AM	#9515 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	Well, I got 6hrs sleep Small chance of rain today & I want to get my door off loaded. Gotta inspect it & instructions, as I have lumber to build up the front side Hopefully I’ll have all the framing & bracing finished up by next week & start sheathing it Rusty, old guy, -ZS-Carpenter and 1 others like this. __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

04-07-2020, 03:51 AM	#9516 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	T-69 Spoiler and redondoaveb like this. __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

04-07-2020, 03:53 AM	#9517 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	Headed to fire up the countertop cammer & gets myself awakening up So far, no fram bamming on my door old guy and redondoaveb like this. __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

04-07-2020, 03:55 AM	#9518 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	And now the strumming begins redondoaveb likes this. __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

04-07-2020, 04:19 AM	#9522 (permalink)
asht Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 494 Drives: 2010 370z Roadster Rep Power: 117450	That saucepan looks like it has cowboy food Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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