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Originally Posted by nr7 I wish I could say I am a new owner, but I bought a 2010 Sport Touring Roadster 6sp back in February and have been waiting

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Old 06-16-2021, 03:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I wish I could say I am a new owner, but I bought a 2010 Sport Touring Roadster 6sp back in February and have been waiting 4 and a half months to get approved to post on the forums.

I could have certainly used some advice from the knowledgeable folks on this forum, while getting the vehicle ready to travel. The best of which would have been not to buy such a flawed, unreliable, poorly designed POS car for such a trip.

$15k for a 2010 Sport/Touring Roadster with 28k miles in excellent condition seemed like such a great deal at the time What a seemingly great car with great performance and Japanese reliability to take on a 4 month post-Covid trip around the perimeter of the US? But little did I know, I would have been better off looking at Yugos. Thousands in upgrades and repairs is hopes of making it into decently reliable transport leaves me stuck and broke down in a hot, expensive, sweat trap where no one is willing to work on the car. Even the dealer here refuses to work on this POS.

Sorry for the down trodden tone, maybe after another few thousand dollars I'll be able to come up with something nice to say.

I hope your car gets you through the day w/o a $1000 repair bill.

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Old 06-16-2021, 06:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am not a member of facebook, thank you. When it comes to what you think, frankly, Ms Daizy, I don't give a damn.

That said, feel free to see if you can convince the mods to ban me, since you seem to consider yourself the arbiter of forum worthiness.

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The Miata is likely a much more reliable car, unfortunately, it did not meet my other requirements, not that I place any value on anything that you have to say.


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WOW, if you wanted help you sure got off on the wrong foot. Nobody likes dealing with someone that is bitchy.
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WOW, if you wanted help you sure got off on the wrong foot. Nobody likes dealing with someone that is bitchy.
Yeah, I know, but I needed to have a bit of a rant. That said, I know it's a not great way to introduce myself. It was an ironic that the mod approved me on my darkest day with this car.

I wasn't really looking for help, it was apparent that I was already screwed and I wanted to bitch.

Most were sympathetic. One is an *******. I am glad to know as much.

I'll bite back if personally attacked, so I did.


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I have a questions. When you started having to lift the clutch pedal back up did you check the fluid level in the clutch Master Cylinder? If you ran it dry the Clutch Master Cylinder is toast. Have it replaced. You can get one at that dealer.
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I have a questions. When you started having to lift the clutch pedal back up did you check the fluid level in the clutch Master Cylinder? If you ran it dry the Clutch Master Cylinder is toast. Have it replaced. You can get one at that dealer.
No, I checked the fluid immediately. It was right at the full line.

I brought it to RPM Autoworx who attempted to bleed it disabling the clutch completely.

On the advice of Joe, I had RPM the master cylinder replaced for $600. Miraculously, the clutch is working again, for now.

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No, I checked the fluid immediately. It was right at the full line.

I brought it to RPM Autoworx attempted to bleed it disabling the clutch completely.

On the advice of Joe, I had RPM the master cylinder replaced for $600. Miraculously, the clutch is working again, for now.

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Make sure you run a high quality Dot 4 brake fluid such as Motul RBF600. It helps a lot. The master cylinder could have been damaged by the previous owner. He may have ran it dry on fluid. Sometimes they don't die right away. It takes a bit of time if they were ran dry.
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By the way, it is not even hot yet. Summer is just getting warmed up. July and August are hot.
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By the way, it is not even hot yet. Summer is just getting warmed up. July and August are hot.
I will be glad to get back to the mountains and a bit north.

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The Z clutch master cylinder hose is a common fault in these cars, they tend to deteriorate internally pushing all of that gunk into the pump causing it to fail over time
That's a Nissan fault.

Top problems, well... that's convertibles for you especially anything that has angle/proximity sensors

Oil overheating problems... How's your driving? usually these engines wont climb in temperatures unless they've been spirited for a while and since it's your first rodeo it will teach you. Many vehicles overheat their oils and you would never know. Be thankful of that gauge and install a cooler.

The rest..... Well..... Spend a couple of weeks here reading this way you can come up with a plan on the most likely failures of this car so you can get ahead of them.

By the way there is this little penis looking like gasket that will introduce some baldness if you still have hair and it's called the Gallery gasket.
keeping oil temps that high will kill this gasket prematurely as well.

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The Z clutch master cylinder hose is a common fault in these cars, they tend to deteriorate internally pushing all of that gunk into the pump causing it to fail over time
That's a Nissan fault.
Perhaps only my Master cylinder is bad, not my slave.

I am going to start another thread about that issue. I will provide more details and link to it later in this thread. Thanks.


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Top problems, well... that's convertibles for you especially anything that has angle/proximity sensors
The Top Whisperer in San Diego that I was lucky enough to find says the 370z top is among the worst of the worst. He has never known a 370z Roadster owner that didn't have problems.

His highest praise was reserved for Porsche tops. Although apparently, most convertible tops are made by a small handful of suppliers. I think there are 3 or so primary rag top makers that nearly all automakers use.

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Oil overheating problems... How's your driving? usually these engines wont climb in temperatures unless they've been spirited for a while and since it's your first rodeo it will teach you. Many vehicles overheat their oils and you would never know. Be thankful of that gauge and install a cooler.
The base of Little Cottonwood to Snowbird is about 10 miles and 3000 ft elevation gain. Driving spiritedly (3000 to 6500 rpm, mostly in 3rd) with 50 degree valley temps cooling to 40 degrees. She would get up to just under 260 (255?) degrees.

IMHO, the car should have come with an oil cooler, stock. It appears, perhaps due to noise generated on this forum, that Nissan, admitted as much as well.

I ended up installing a Fast Intentions 34 row to deal with what I perceived to be a heat problem. She hasn't been over 240 since.

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By the way there is this little penis looking like gasket that will introduce some baldness if you still have hair and it's called the Gallery gasket.
keeping oil temps that high will kill this gasket prematurely as well.
I've recently seen some posts about gallery gaskets, I was a little afraid to read them.

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I will be glad to get back to the mountains and a bit north.

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Do you know which clutch the old owner installed? And from where it was bought from?
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Sorry about the frustration with the car.

My father picked up a used Mini Cooper last year and it wasn't until after the automatic transmission took a nosedive did he look online and see that this could be a potential issue and he should have stayed away from that year. Some DIY transmission replacement and its been traded in for his first truck - 2021 Tacoma.

Point being is that it happens. Always sucks and it is never fun to spend money to fix and lose money to get rid of the problem.

When they are working properly (I know, not what you want to hear), the Z can be a fun sports car.
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Sorry about the frustration with the car.
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My father picked up a used Mini Cooper last year and it wasn't until after the automatic transmission took a nosedive did he look online and see that this could be a potential issue and he should have stayed away from that year. Some DIY transmission replacement and its been traded in for his first truck - 2021 Tacoma.
There is only so much one can do. Looking at consumer reports, carfax, get vehicle inspected etc... No one is going to wait 6 months while you research every aspect of their car for sale.

I had been reading this forum when I started to consider purchasing this vehicle, but it's often hard to tell if a problem is affecting everyone or perhaps just a very vocal few.

Nonetheless, the info the previous owner gave me about replacing the clutch led me to think that the previous owner had perhaps dealt with the slave issue when he replaced the clutch.

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When they are working properly (I know, not what you want to hear), the Z can be a fun sports car.
Yes, they are a super fun car to drive. For me there was very little learning curve with this car. The steering is fantastic, she goes exactly where you point her. She corners like it's on rails, the power curve is very smooth and linear from 3k revs on up and she'll pull from as low as 1500 revs if you ask her to. The brakes are awesome as well.

She gallops between 20 and 120 mph like a track star and I have had some glorious top down driving on 5 star twisty roadways between San Diego and here. Just Sunday, going up the Ocoee and down through the N. GA mountains was like a top down "Sound of Music" fairy tale dream filled with sport bikes and race cars. LOL


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