why is nobody running these headers??

edub370 · 02-23-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by N0SL3N

Where do you see 5 holes? I see 3 on the flange to the cat and 8 to the block.

I was referring to the large holes on the flange that connects to the block. But now that i can see a lil better than my phone was allowing, i see they are just open places between each header

KamiSpeed · 02-23-2013, 05:31 AM

Japanese companies have an insane addiction for quality, so they'll create good products for $$ without the most power gains. I have no doubt these are good, but they're not for most

Sh0velMan · 02-23-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Wanne bet? I'd do some more research here. Momentum headers have been blowing everyone out of the water. You must be comparing to the other crappy headers out there.

Chris, they haven't been blowing longtubes out of the water... Every other shorty, definitely.

No one has done a direct comparison to the PPE stepped headers, but the results have been comparable, sort of. My 326-330whp is with the PPEs on an OEM exhaust system... We'll see what they do with the fast intentions exhaust in May.

SPOHN · 02-23-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Chris, they haven't been blowing longtubes out of the water... Every other shorty, definitely.

No one has done a direct comparison to the PPE stepped headers, but the results have been comparable, sort of. My 326-330whp is with the PPEs on an OEM exhaust system... We'll see what they do with the fast intentions exhaust in May.

Cost to HP

Sh0velMan · 02-26-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Cost to HP

Didn't those momentum headers cost you around 800 plus TPs?

Even if they were 600 plus TP's, you're still damned close to the cost of the PPE's.

And you can't really get momentums if you don't already have them so... yeah.

If it works, it works. That's what I say.

AlexRaymond19 · 02-26-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Didn't those momentum headers cost you around 800 plus TPs?

Even if they were 600 plus TP's, you're still damned close to the cost of the PPE's.

And you can't really get momentums if you don't already have them so... yeah.

If it works, it works. That's what I say.

I paid like 500 for my headers, and brand new test pipes at Z1 were 140. I thought PPE LTH were over 1k? Even if they were 600, plus tps, its still cheaper. Keep in mind the use the old DE 350 style test pipe/cat and is much cheaper than the 370 counterpart

AlexRaymond19 · 02-26-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Chris, they haven't been blowing longtubes out of the water... Every other shorty, definitely.

No one has done a direct comparison to the PPE stepped headers, but the results have been comparable, sort of. My 326-330whp is with the PPEs on an OEM exhaust system... We'll see what they do with the fast intentions exhaust in May.

Sure there is...

Z1 Motorsports: 326rwhp with Stock exhaust

Sh0velMan · 02-26-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Sure there is...

Z1 Motorsports: 326rwhp with Stock exhaust

I don't see in that thread where they tested a car with PPE Longtubes and then put momentums + TP's and tested again?

AlexRaymond19 · 02-26-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

I don't see in that thread where they tested a car with PPE Longtubes and then put momentums + TP's and tested again?

I understand, and all dynos read different. They are both good products, and both seems to produce like numbers. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if some of the hype for momentum was due to the fact of left over inventory... Either way they both make power over stock, and the end result is

.

I was not trying to cause strife, just pointing out that the momentums make close to the same gains if not equal to ppe. And lets face it. A tune does wonders for throttle response and the drive. But again we are talking peak HP (which honestly doesn't mean anything) torque should be the only thing people are concerned about as it is what makes your car "fast". Anyway, i have only ever seen a tune turn up an extra 3-8 peak WHP on our cars. We will have a better idea when i get my car on the dyno before and after tune.

chrischhorn · 02-26-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Anyway, i have only ever seen a tune turn up an extra 3-8 peak WHP on our cars.

.....My dyno before and after tune. Tuning was done at 9pm at night so it was cool out and weather did not vary between the 2 1/2 hours of tuning. I was the first 370z hes ever tuned so its not a great graph. Gains are good and even throughout the powerband. Just needs to smooth it out.

7419sundat · 02-23-2013, 09:56 AM

First mod: PPE Headers... +35WHP

Look up that thread. They seem to be on par if not better.

Doug@PTUNING · 02-26-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 7419sundat

First mod: PPE Headers... +35WHP

Look up that thread. They seem to be on par if not better.

That a good power gain.

SPOHN · 02-23-2013, 11:36 AM

diddy535 · 02-26-2013, 12:40 PM

500 for your headers? Where'd you get that deal they were 800 through z1 I'd love to get that deal

chrischhorn · 02-26-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by diddy535

500 for your headers? Where'd you get that deal they were 800 through z1 I'd love to get that deal

I got my Momentum headers for $450 from an army guy here on the island. He sold his G35 and bought a G37 sedan. I told him they would fit but he just wanted a nice car instead of a race car lol.

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