Sound

Omarious · 03-07-2012, 02:12 AM

Heay hopefully someone can help me. I installed in my 370z 2010 a magnaflow exhaust and just added test pipes with custom tuning. Power of the car got sooo much better but the only thing that is bothering me is the raspy sound that comes out of it especially when down shifting. Anyone know what i can do do fix this problem. Im looking for that roar sound, that raspy sounds sooo damn cheap.

zuperman 370 · 03-07-2012, 02:43 AM

Heey bro, great to see a member from Lebanon, that raspy sound most probably is caused due to the test pipes, if it is bothering you that much id advise you to have them replaced with either HFC or motordyne ART pipes, hope this helps

Staples · 03-07-2012, 02:46 AM

Non-resonated test pipes will cause this issue for many different exhaust systems. High flow cats will also cause this issue. Zuper is right, ART pipes are going to be your best bet.

Jordo! · 03-07-2012, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Omarious

Heay hopefully someone can help me. I installed in my 370z 2010 a magnaflow exhaust and just added test pipes... Anyone know what i can do do fix this problem. Im looking for that roar sound, that raspy sounds sooo damn cheap.

Replace them with resonated test pipes. You do not need the more pricey art pipes to do this.

MaDMaXX · 03-07-2012, 02:27 PM

The ART's are resonated test pipes, but you're right, others can help with the rasp too.

ART's just add back some of the power and torque you lose with other test pipes.

daisuke149 · 03-07-2012, 03:22 PM

ive heard resonated test pipes, ive heard ART pipes and ive heard diff HFC's.

the ART pipes def do the best of them all in terms of limited the sound

Jordo! · 03-07-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX

The ART's are resonated test pipes, but you're right, others can help with the rasp too.

ART's just add back some of the power and torque you lose with other test pipes.

No. I have seen data that they make 2-4 more whp than regular test pipes, resonated or otherwise. That's about it tho'.

They probably just flow a little better due to the unique resonator design -- other than that, you can't flow much more freely than an open pipe.

AlphaSnacks · 03-07-2012, 04:05 PM

They also improve the torque curve quite a bit.

MaDMaXX · 03-07-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

No. I have seen data that they make 2-4 more whp than regular test pipes, resonated or otherwise. That's about it tho'.

They probably just flow a little better due to the unique resonator design -- other than that, you can't flow much more freely than an open pipe.

What do you mean, no, and then agree with me?

Also, the loss with test pipes isn't at the top end, it's at the low end, this is where the ART's correct the problem, and as said above, it bumps the torque nicely, between 15-20 ft/lbs in some cases.

edub370 · 03-07-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX

What do you mean, no, and then agree with me?

Also, the loss with test pipes isn't at the top end, it's at the low end, this is where the ART's correct the problem, and as said above, it bumps the torque nicely, between 15-20 ft/lbs in some cases.

proof on this 20ft/lb gain over tp's?

MaDMaXX · 03-07-2012, 11:05 PM

I will say i've not seen Dyno's of the 370, so that's from the 350.

I do not have them to hand, but if you do a search (sorry i don't have time to do it right now) then you will see independent dyno's including delta graphs (the good ones showing the difference)
Best place is probably g35driver or my350z for the time being.

AlphaSnacks · 03-08-2012, 12:44 AM

Indeed. Plenty of dynos have shown fantastic low-end TQ gains on VQs with ART Pipes.

Omarious · 03-09-2012, 01:56 AM

Thanks guys **** that was alot of help. gonna try them out for a while and see if i can get use to the sound. if not then will see what i do. Peace

Jordo! · 03-09-2012, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX

What do you mean, no, and then agree with me?

Also, the loss with test pipes isn't at the top end, it's at the low end, this is where the ART's correct the problem, and as said above, it bumps the torque nicely, between 15-20 ft/lbs in some cases.

I mean there is no loss of power associated with running an open pipe. The few extra ponies from the ART pipes are probably due to the specific harmonics of the design. Which, to be fair, is impressive.

But it's not as if the gains are massive as compared to ebay pipes...

They make a few more whp/wtq than regular test pipes -- that's it.

For example:

Yes, with tuning, some more power might have been picked up, but the differences will still be relatively small.

They're nice pipes; they sound nice and score you more power than regular TP's, but let's not get crazy here.

No one should be losing any power anywhere provided the pipes are the right diameter. I've seen zero evidence of this. Explain to me why this would happen.

Do mean that blip at like 2000 RPM? That's as likely to be wheelspin as the dyno started recording as not. From 2.5K on it looks about the same or shows gains, probably helped most with a tune.

AlphaSnacks · 03-09-2012, 06:42 PM

That's not a very accurate dyno or comparison, then. It doesn't seem to be back-to-back, one run is tuned, one isn't. There was possibly some wheelspin on the dyno, as well? Too many variables.

Here is a dyno on a 350Z VQ35DE. No tunes on either of the runs. Both done back-to-back. These were the gains Tony people would see and in that range, and we did. I've seen similar dynos on VQ35HRs, as well.

03-07-2012, 02:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
Omarious Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Lebanon - Beirut Posts: 5 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	Sound Heay hopefully someone can help me. I installed in my 370z 2010 a magnaflow exhaust and just added test pipes with custom tuning. Power of the car got sooo much better but the only thing that is bothering me is the raspy sound that comes out of it especially when down shifting. Anyone know what i can do do fix this problem. Im looking for that roar sound, that raspy sounds sooo damn cheap.

03-07-2012, 02:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Staples Track Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 546 Drives: '08 Infiniti G37s Rep Power: 15	Non-resonated test pipes will cause this issue for many different exhaust systems. High flow cats will also cause this issue. Zuper is right, ART pipes are going to be your best bet. __________________ '08 Infiniti G37s - Forced Induction Fed

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03-07-2012, 02:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
zuperman 370 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: BAHRAIN Posts: 944 Drives: 370z 2010 at blue Rep Power: 16	Heey bro, great to see a member from Lebanon, that raspy sound most probably is caused due to the test pipes, if it is bothering you that much id advise you to have them replaced with either HFC or motordyne ART pipes, hope this helps

03-07-2012, 02:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
MaDMaXX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oregon from England Posts: 292 Drives: 350z Rep Power: 13	The ART's are resonated test pipes, but you're right, others can help with the rasp too. ART's just add back some of the power and torque you lose with other test pipes.

03-07-2012, 03:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	ive heard resonated test pipes, ive heard ART pipes and ive heard diff HFC's. the ART pipes def do the best of them all in terms of limited the sound

03-07-2012, 04:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	They also improve the torque curve quite a bit.

03-07-2012, 11:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
MaDMaXX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oregon from England Posts: 292 Drives: 350z Rep Power: 13	I will say i've not seen Dyno's of the 370, so that's from the 350. I do not have them to hand, but if you do a search (sorry i don't have time to do it right now) then you will see independent dyno's including delta graphs (the good ones showing the difference) Best place is probably g35driver or my350z for the time being.

03-08-2012, 12:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Indeed. Plenty of dynos have shown fantastic low-end TQ gains on VQs with ART Pipes.

03-09-2012, 01:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
Omarious Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Lebanon - Beirut Posts: 5 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	Thanks guys **** that was alot of help. gonna try them out for a while and see if i can get use to the sound. if not then will see what i do. Peace

03-09-2012, 06:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	That's not a very accurate dyno or comparison, then. It doesn't seem to be back-to-back, one run is tuned, one isn't. There was possibly some wheelspin on the dyno, as well? Too many variables. Here is a dyno on a 350Z VQ35DE. No tunes on either of the runs. Both done back-to-back. These were the gains Tony people would see and in that range, and we did. I've seen similar dynos on VQ35HRs, as well.