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Omarious 03-07-2012 02:12 AM

Sound
 
Heay hopefully someone can help me. I installed in my 370z 2010 a magnaflow exhaust and just added test pipes with custom tuning. Power of the car got sooo much better but the only thing that is bothering me is the raspy sound that comes out of it especially when down shifting. Anyone know what i can do do fix this problem. Im looking for that roar sound, that raspy sounds sooo damn cheap.

zuperman 370 03-07-2012 02:43 AM

Heey bro, great to see a member from Lebanon, that raspy sound most probably is caused due to the test pipes, if it is bothering you that much id advise you to have them replaced with either HFC or motordyne ART pipes, hope this helps :D

Staples 03-07-2012 02:46 AM

Non-resonated test pipes will cause this issue for many different exhaust systems. High flow cats will also cause this issue. Zuper is right, ART pipes are going to be your best bet.

Jordo! 03-07-2012 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Omarious (Post 1585628)
Heay hopefully someone can help me. I installed in my 370z 2010 a magnaflow exhaust and just added test pipes... Anyone know what i can do do fix this problem. Im looking for that roar sound, that raspy sounds sooo damn cheap.

Replace them with resonated test pipes. You do not need the more pricey art pipes to do this.

MaDMaXX 03-07-2012 02:27 PM

The ART's are resonated test pipes, but you're right, others can help with the rasp too.

ART's just add back some of the power and torque you lose with other test pipes.

daisuke149 03-07-2012 03:22 PM

ive heard resonated test pipes, ive heard ART pipes and ive heard diff HFC's.

the ART pipes def do the best of them all in terms of limited the sound

Jordo! 03-07-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1586290)
The ART's are resonated test pipes, but you're right, others can help with the rasp too.

ART's just add back some of the power and torque you lose with other test pipes.

No. I have seen data that they make 2-4 more whp than regular test pipes, resonated or otherwise. That's about it tho'.

They probably just flow a little better due to the unique resonator design -- other than that, you can't flow much more freely than an open pipe.

AlphaSnacks 03-07-2012 04:05 PM

They also improve the torque curve quite a bit.

MaDMaXX 03-07-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1586424)
No. I have seen data that they make 2-4 more whp than regular test pipes, resonated or otherwise. That's about it tho'.

They probably just flow a little better due to the unique resonator design -- other than that, you can't flow much more freely than an open pipe.

What do you mean, no, and then agree with me?

Also, the loss with test pipes isn't at the top end, it's at the low end, this is where the ART's correct the problem, and as said above, it bumps the torque nicely, between 15-20 ft/lbs in some cases.

edub370 03-07-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1586999)
What do you mean, no, and then agree with me?

Also, the loss with test pipes isn't at the top end, it's at the low end, this is where the ART's correct the problem, and as said above, it bumps the torque nicely, between 15-20 ft/lbs in some cases.

proof on this 20ft/lb gain over tp's?

MaDMaXX 03-07-2012 11:05 PM

I will say i've not seen Dyno's of the 370, so that's from the 350.

I do not have them to hand, but if you do a search (sorry i don't have time to do it right now) then you will see independent dyno's including delta graphs (the good ones showing the difference)
Best place is probably g35driver or my350z for the time being.

AlphaSnacks 03-08-2012 12:44 AM

Indeed. Plenty of dynos have shown fantastic low-end TQ gains on VQs with ART Pipes.

Omarious 03-09-2012 01:56 AM

Thanks guys **** that was alot of help. gonna try them out for a while and see if i can get use to the sound. if not then will see what i do. Peace

Jordo! 03-09-2012 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1586999)
What do you mean, no, and then agree with me?

Also, the loss with test pipes isn't at the top end, it's at the low end, this is where the ART's correct the problem, and as said above, it bumps the torque nicely, between 15-20 ft/lbs in some cases.

I mean there is no loss of power associated with running an open pipe. The few extra ponies from the ART pipes are probably due to the specific harmonics of the design. Which, to be fair, is impressive.

But it's not as if the gains are massive as compared to ebay pipes...

They make a few more whp/wtq than regular test pipes -- that's it.

For example:

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...ferent-tps.jpg

Yes, with tuning, some more power might have been picked up, but the differences will still be relatively small.

They're nice pipes; they sound nice and score you more power than regular TP's, but let's not get crazy here.

No one should be losing any power anywhere provided the pipes are the right diameter. I've seen zero evidence of this. Explain to me why this would happen.

Do mean that blip at like 2000 RPM? That's as likely to be wheelspin as the dyno started recording as not. From 2.5K on it looks about the same or shows gains, probably helped most with a tune.

AlphaSnacks 03-09-2012 06:42 PM

That's not a very accurate dyno or comparison, then. It doesn't seem to be back-to-back, one run is tuned, one isn't. There was possibly some wheelspin on the dyno, as well? Too many variables.

Here is a dyno on a 350Z VQ35DE. No tunes on either of the runs. Both done back-to-back. These were the gains Tony people would see and in that range, and we did. I've seen similar dynos on VQ35HRs, as well.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/6...erartpipes.png


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