MOTORDYNE ART Pipes - Review

NeverBoneStck · 06-18-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT

When I bought my used ART pipes, there were some black/gray materials rattling inside the pipes. I just thought it was some residue or something. Is this what you are referring to?

How did you get it out?? I checked both before install. Shook them both and no rattling. I believe it's a failed weld and the screen on the inside of the resonator is making the noise ..

Armonster · 06-18-2011, 10:27 PM

Update: The rattle that I described earlier in this thread was NOT caused by contact with a bolt. It was coming from the exhaust system itself. However, after a few days the rattle started to die down and now I can only barely hear it during a cold start.

AlphaSnacks · 06-18-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT

I talked to Tony about this and he said it is not necessary for the brace to be reinstalled.

So my SES light came on just now. Will take it to autozone to see if they can read it.

edit: so I guess it's illegal for autopart stores to read these codes now says the cashier.

It is if you have an exhaust that has flex sections like our Invidia. People have been cracking Invidias using test pipes or HFCs without the brace. Getting a replacement flex section. Cracking that in a month. Getting another and then reinstalling the brace and never experiencing another crack again.

There's a thread about this from esfourteen. You have to install the brace back on.

Edit: And notice how everyone talking about rattles has an Invidia? It's no coincidence. Without the brace, you're putting too much stress on the exhaust's flex sections.

370Z JT · 06-18-2011, 11:22 PM

yea i read that thread. I just went by Tony's word and didnt put it on. Maybe that's why im hearing a possible leak that started 2 days ago. Will get under the car tomorrow to check it out. Will a leak at the flex joint cause the SES to go on?

Also, did you guys contact Invidia directly for the replacement flex joints?

docaam · 06-18-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

It is if you have an exhaust that has flex sections like our Invidia. People have been cracking Invidias using test pipes or HFCs without the brace. Getting a replacement flex section. Cracking that in a month. Getting another and then reinstalling the brace and never experiencing another crack again.

There's a thread about this from esfourteen. You have to install the brace back on.

Edit: And notice how everyone talking about rattles has an Invidia? It's no coincidence. Without the brace, you're putting too much stress on the exhaust's flex sections.

Any picture how the brace is attached as when I ask my installer to put it on he said it's not possible some alteration is required. Does it need some new support points?

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT

yea i read that thread. I just went by Tony's word and didnt put it on. Maybe that's why im hearing a possible leak that started 2 days ago. Will get under the car tomorrow to check it out. Will a leak at the flex joint cause the SES to go on?

Also, did you guys contact Invidia directly for the replacement flex joints?

sorry to hear about that

370Z JT · 06-19-2011, 02:30 AM

You're right doccam. The ART pipes doesn't have the flanges to accommodate the oem braces. Hmmmmm.

Here's how it should look with the braces on.

docaam · 06-19-2011, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT

You're right doccam. The ART pipes doesn't have the flanges to accommodate the oem braces. Hmmmmm.

Here's how it should look with the braces on.

anyone knows any solution?

Footloose301 · 06-19-2011, 11:40 AM

Anyone have these matched with the HKS HI POWER????

I'm trying to rid my car of rasp and can't fins anyone with this combo. I'm leaning towards swapping out my HKS for an FI exhaust....

Regardless I'll be buying these ART pipes very soon. Just hope theres no rasp with the HKS.....

AlphaSnacks · 06-19-2011, 11:56 AM

Wait, the brace cannot be mounted back with the ART Pipes? That's not good.

Boost_lee · 06-19-2011, 12:40 PM

When I was under the car for the install, I don't remember seeing a way to install the oem bracket

docaam · 06-19-2011, 01:26 PM

so how people are installing it, the ones who did?

christian370z · 06-19-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by docaam

so how people are installing it, the ones who did?

Well, they are technically more than strong enough to support themselves without the use of the OEM exhaust braces, especially when you consider the Art pipes weigh less than the OEM cats. But it is definitely extra insurance and was one of the things I like about my Berk HFCs, you don't need those braces to properly install the Art pipes however.

docaam · 06-19-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

Well, they are technically more than strong enough to support themselves without the use of the OEM exhaust braces, especially when you consider the Art pipes weigh less than the OEM cats. But it is definitely extra insurance and was one of the things I like about my Berk HFCs, you don't need those braces to properly install the Art pipes however.

I was refering to installing the braces, I already have ART along with invidia running strong, but just want to install the brace for future hicups

AlphaSnacks · 06-19-2011, 10:30 PM

Test pipes are lighter than ART Pipes and they are known to crack exhausts like the Invidia if they aren't mounted with the brace. I don't think weight plays a factor.

Motordyne · 06-19-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck

The rattle is coming from the resonator.. It sounds like a failed weld and soothing came loose on the inside of the resonator.. Hopefully Tony can resolve this...

We use ceramic beads to polish the pipes. Some of them may have found their way inside the resonator. In any case it is covered under warranty.

edit - We are now using a new fixture to keep the polishing beads out of the pipes.

06-18-2011, 11:22 PM	#364 (permalink)
370Z JT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: United States Posts: 2,905 Drives: 370Z PW 7AT Rep Power: 378	yea i read that thread. I just went by Tony's word and didnt put it on. Maybe that's why im hearing a possible leak that started 2 days ago. Will get under the car tomorrow to check it out. Will a leak at the flex joint cause the SES to go on? Also, did you guys contact Invidia directly for the replacement flex joints? __________________ Click for My Journal Top Secret \| EVO-R \| Fujimura Auto \| Shine Auto \| Seibon \| MRWorks \| Swift \| SPC \| SSR \| UpRev \| Project Kics \| NST \| Titek \| Eibach \| Nismo \| Whiteline \| Quaife \| Invidia \| Fly1 \| CF Element \| Carbon Signal

06-19-2011, 02:30 AM	#366 (permalink)
370Z JT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: United States Posts: 2,905 Drives: 370Z PW 7AT Rep Power: 378	You're right doccam. The ART pipes doesn't have the flanges to accommodate the oem braces. Hmmmmm. Here's how it should look with the braces on. __________________ Click for My Journal Top Secret \| EVO-R \| Fujimura Auto \| Shine Auto \| Seibon \| MRWorks \| Swift \| SPC \| SSR \| UpRev \| Project Kics \| NST \| Titek \| Eibach \| Nismo \| Whiteline \| Quaife \| Invidia \| Fly1 \| CF Element \| Carbon Signal

06-19-2011, 11:40 AM	#368 (permalink)
Footloose301 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,659 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 21	Anyone have these matched with the HKS HI POWER???? I'm trying to rid my car of rasp and can't fins anyone with this combo. I'm leaning towards swapping out my HKS for an FI exhaust.... Regardless I'll be buying these ART pipes very soon. Just hope theres no rasp with the HKS..... __________________ 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z

06-19-2011, 12:40 PM	#370 (permalink)
Boost_lee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 2,813 Drives: 09 370Z TT 6MT Rep Power: 29	When I was under the car for the install, I don't remember seeing a way to install the oem bracket __________________ My TT Z

06-19-2011, 01:26 PM	#371 (permalink)
docaam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 2,532 Drives: Z34/240z/Hakosuka Rep Power: 28	so how people are installing it, the ones who did? __________________ Old 370Z SOLD but not forgotten 370Z 40th, G37s, S30 RBZ, Hakosuka Skyline

06-18-2011, 10:27 PM	#362 (permalink)
Armonster Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 270 Drives: 2010 370z t/sp/6mt Rep Power: 14	Update: The rattle that I described earlier in this thread was NOT caused by contact with a bolt. It was coming from the exhaust system itself. However, after a few days the rattle started to die down and now I can only barely hear it during a cold start.

06-19-2011, 11:56 AM	#369 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Wait, the brace cannot be mounted back with the ART Pipes? That's not good.

06-19-2011, 10:30 PM	#374 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Test pipes are lighter than ART Pipes and they are known to crack exhausts like the Invidia if they aren't mounted with the brace. I don't think weight plays a factor.

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