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Originally Posted by jwick Also a key point to note is the over 600 number was a fifth gear pull. The fourth gear pull, which is what most of us

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Old 04-29-2015, 09:18 AM   #481 (permalink)
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Also a key point to note is the over 600 number was a fifth gear pull. The fourth gear pull, which is what most of us report, was 589 if I recall properly.

Edit - Again not knocking just trying to point out differences that could account for a high number.
Z1 3rd gear pull at 10+ PSI healthy is good enough for me. If the dyno says 500whp and not 580whp i'll be just fine.

WE all know 10+ PSI VQ will out run 90% of anything on the street, and like I said. "That's all we care about when it comes to power."
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Yeah I was on 93 octane. And my forth gear pull did hit 589whp but I'm pretty sure it was less then 9.5 psi. I don't remember. If anything it was at 9.3-9.5 psi.

I wouldn't think z1s dyno reads that much higher. I've seen a lot of single turbo and twin turbo guys on dyno days at z1, and they actually made less whp then where they had got thier car tuned at originally.

Then again there is a lot of variables that can determine the outcome at the time. I'm sure if I take my Z back in a few months the number will drop to average whp.
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I wouldn't think z1s dyno reads that much higher.
It does. It's been a topic of discussion around here for a long time. Not taking anything away from them or your build since dynos are only tuning tools anyway, and we're only talking about a ~20whp difference on a 600 whp car. That's what, a 3% difference? Either way it's fast as hell.
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Z1 3rd gear pull at 10+ PSI healthy is good enough for me. If the dyno says 500whp and not 580whp i'll be just fine.

WE all know 10+ PSI VQ will out run 90% of anything on the street, and like I said. "That's all we care about when it comes to power."
but it's more like 95%
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It does. It's been a topic of discussion around here for a long time. Not taking anything away from them or your build since dynos are only tuning tools anyway, and we're only talking about a ~20whp difference on a 600 whp car. That's what, a 3% difference? Either way it's fast as hell.
Didn't know it's been a topic for that long LOL
But agreed, I don't really care for numbers so much. Just really love hearing the turbos spooling and how hard the car pulls whenever I get on it. AAM did a great job with these turbo kits.
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The fuel is a big one, one reason I started adding it to the finished builds thread because people with much lower boost were hitting high numbers but were on e85. Helps show a better perspective into how someone reached it.
Has there been any reported issues with running e85? Either with the tune, longevity, or overall performance? Just did some research and looks to be very cheap to do, and I have ONE station that has it about 5 minutes from my house. Super intriguing with the ridiculous numbers people seem to be getting with it!!
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E85 is super cheap, runs cool, but you will only get like 10 mpg!
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E85 is super cheap, runs cool, but you will only get like 10 mpg!
in the end it costs about the same as running 93 or maybe more depending on current/local e85 prices lol

isn't it like 30% faster burning than 93 gas? i cant remember.

e85 station by me is at 2.20/2.30 a gal right now if iirc. 93 here is at 2.99-3.05 depending on location.
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dont forget e85 will burn cleaner too, wont leave all that nasty soot all over your car. Big problem for me with 93 octane and a pearl white car. So i will be converting very soon
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E85 is super cheap, runs cool, but you will only get like 10 mpg!
I only get 11mpg now on 93oct.

Of course it's my weekend warrior so it only gets driven hard when pulled out of the garage.
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I only get 11mpg now on 93oct.

Of course it's my weekend warrior so it only gets driven hard when pulled out of the garage.
do you pull out then drive hard or drive hard then pull out?
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do you pull out then drive hard or drive hard then pull out?
Ummm....yes
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E85 is super cheap, runs cool, but you will only get like 10 mpg!

dont forget e85 will burn cleaner too, wont leave all that nasty soot all over your car. Big problem for me with 93 octane and a pearl white car. So i will be converting very soon
These two points are huge for me! Thanks guys, e85 conversion it is then! When I first heard of people doing this I didn't even give it a second thought thinking it was a nightmare of a change, but it sounds pretty simply, and really only benefits rather than any sort of negatives. Except for the mileage of course, but this car isn't a daily driver so it's perfect!

Odd question, but any sort of smell difference? Certain fuels burning obviously give off dif smells, and I love the power but don't want to smell like a rotten egg driving down the road. LOL
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I would go E85 if it was readily available all over the US. That is the killer for me. I can't simple jump in my car and drive to where ever and not have to worry about gas. 93 is common enough so I stick to that.

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I would go E85 if it was readily available all over the US. That is the killer for me. I can't simple jump in my car and drive to where ever and not have to worry about gas. 93 is common enough so I stick to that.

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Good point, BUT it seems like there are some pretty great sites that have maps for every station that has e85. I feel like it's common enough that it'll work, but just have to do a little homework before going on that road trip it's tough not to go with something that is providing 80+ freakin Hp over 91-93!!!
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