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Dzel 07-03-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 2882743)
that's the thing, they can't deliver! I had this very discussion with Sam about 7-8 weeks ago, expressed my concerns about not having any products yet at all but having paid in full over 1 year ago, I asked to have all of my items shipped to me that were apparently in stock (everything he told me was in stock except for 2x manifolds and some sensor component). I even said I will pay extra for shipping when the manifolds come in, he agree'd to this and asked me to give him 2-3 days to get the picking list organised, 2-3 days went by, I had rang and asked where my shipping tracking number was and he said they aren't going to send the parts anymore as him and his team think it's a bad idea.

that's when I pulled the plug and started my refund.

That right there speaks loud and clear...

DIGItonium 07-03-2014 01:03 PM

Stupid question... so are we pretty much SOL if we need to order replacement manifolds or upgrades (e.g., new manifolds and components or even upgrade to larger turbos)?

Ill 07-03-2014 02:38 PM

About 90% on the forum will say you are SOL. I disagree, like I said from day 1, I have no trouble contacting them and ordering parts and having them do my work. It might take an unneeded amount of time to get it all sorted and ordered, but it will happen eventually.

esfourteen 07-03-2014 04:01 PM

I ordered a new driver side manifold back in December. Called, Sam answered, told him what happened (cracked), paid for new manifold, had it about a week later. The turn around time would suggest they have some of the older (prone to cracking) manifolds on the shelf.

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2883190)
Stupid question... so are we pretty much SOL if we need to order replacement manifolds or upgrades (e.g., new manifolds and components or even upgrade to larger turbos)?


Ill 07-09-2014 08:32 PM

Just to play devil's advocate. Sam called me yesterday regarding my build and spark plug choice. He actually called me.

nomodsjk 07-09-2014 08:48 PM

I was told by a pretty reputable shop that they are going under and can't afford to fulfill their commitments

NoLaKrewe 07-09-2014 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ill (Post 2883313)
About 90% on the forum will say you are SOL. I disagree, like I said from day 1, I have no trouble contacting them and ordering parts and having them do my work. It might take an unneeded amount of time to get it all sorted and ordered, but it will happen eventually.

New to the forum but far from new in modifications to a vehicle and the conduction of business. Having now completely read this thread it boggles my mind how you defend GTM. I am not bashing them but in almost all of your defenses it seems like you're not buying what you're selling.

When it comes to capitalism I don't the words "unneeded amounts of time to get a product to you" even exist. I am not flaming and respect you for standing up for a product you believe in but countless accounts here prove otherwise.

With time and work if the guy Sam is working hard to fix the company, it will show. Hopefully he does for the sake of his wallet and reputation.

Interesting read none the less, time to go do more reading.

MMC Racing 07-09-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ill (Post 2889906)
Just to play devil's advocate. Sam called me yesterday regarding my build and spark plug choice. He actually called me.

I remember a certain member with a twin supercharger install who made defending posts all the time for Sam. And then he got his car back. And then shortly after, the car was sold..

When your build is done and everything is great, we'll care about your devil advocacy. :ugh2:

COSMO 07-10-2014 01:21 PM

I emailed and called them on my Cracked drivers side exhaust manifold and got nothing back.. Bottom line is They just don't care about this forum anymore because they know that we know how CRappy they are now and there a lot of other potential customers out there that don't have a clue about GTM.... We all need to work on getting the word out to others about gtm to save some people a lot of time and money..

BlkNismo 07-10-2014 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 2890921)
I emailed and called them on my Cracked drivers side exhaust manifold and got nothing back.. Bottom line is They just don't care about this forum anymore because they know that we know how CRappy they are now and there a lot of other potential customers out there that don't have a clue about GTM.... We all need to work on getting the word out to others about gtm to save some people a lot of time and money..



I haven't got a response to my emails in over 2 months.
Phone calls.... Sam is always in a "meeting" supposedly.

GTM is absolutely a nightmare!

With a company holding so many thousands of dollars and just continues to feed lies after lies....refuses to issue refunds with no product to deliver...NO customer service available at all. and is still a forum sponsor????? How is this??



Anyone here speaking highly of GTM after this group buy money scheme is a lurker of GTM

Dzel 07-10-2014 07:46 PM

What happened to that one Australian guy is he still in the group buy?

DEpointfive0 07-10-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2891382)
What happened to that one Australian guy is he still in the group buy?

Nope, I'm 99% sure he's out now

Masterbeatty 07-14-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2891392)
Nope, I'm 99% sure he's out now

Lmao. So does anyone have any info if GTM is still in the game?

Ill 07-14-2014 07:20 PM

As far as the group but, I cannot comment, but as a shop, they are still there. Talked to Sam about ~5 hours ago.

NoLaKrewe 07-14-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ill (Post 2895760)
As far as the group but, I cannot comment, but as a shop, they are still there. Talked to Sam about ~5 hours ago.

You seem to be the only person in this thread that gets to talk to him.

Ill 07-15-2014 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 2895785)
You seem to be the only person in this thread that gets to talk to him.

I honestly have no clue why others have a hard time contacting him. I just call and then just ask to speak to Sam. Works every time.

COSMO 07-15-2014 07:24 AM

Who wants to bet they have to monitor their calls now since they have Screwed so many people...?

batboyvaj 07-15-2014 08:08 AM

It sucks that so many people have been screwed over by all of this. But GTM did have some good products and created some nice stuff for our platform. It's not like there is another company out there that will create a rotrex s/c kit for our cars.

It's a loss to them business wise and a loss to us because we can no longer rely on GTM for products.

Ill 07-15-2014 08:15 AM

I have called from numerous phone numbers, same results regardless of the number.

JARblue 07-15-2014 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ill (Post 2896167)
I have called from numerous phone numbers, same results regardless of the number.

I assume they are asking for your name on the phone? Try giving a name of one of these guys who is unhappy with their service. See if you get to talk to Sam.

ANMVQ 07-18-2014 07:33 AM

Does this sound weird to anyone other than me. I'm kicking the idea of FI my sedan and found a place that "says" they sell the GTM twin turbo kits. I asked if they had them in stock and was told no, of course not, when I asked about the issues GTM has been having delivering kits this is what I got back?

Thanks for the reply.
Seems like a lot of those complaints are from a group buy gone bad (which I am not familiar with). We have sold many GTM kits. If you place your order knowing you will someday get your parts, but the lead time is long, your concerns should be alleviated. The quality of the GTM products we have sold has always been industry leading. If you are willing to wait, feel free to place your order and we would be happy to provide you with the best service in the industry! Let me know if you have any further questions. Please note that GTM will offer many unrealistic lead times. Take their info with a grain of salt. There is no telling when it will ship until you can track it on its way to your door. If you have that outlook on the process, you will be very happy with your purchase.
Thanks!

Grant
The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of cheap price is forgotten
.

So pretty much through you 8k and I may see my stuff SOMEDAY?

njobe89 07-18-2014 07:49 AM

Wow what a deal lol. so you may get it in 1 month, 1 year or who knows when. that's awesome marketing, makes me want to go with them.

MMC Racing 07-18-2014 02:51 PM

Great at Taking your Money

Ill 07-18-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2900666)
Great at Taking your Money

Actually laughed quietly to myself at that. You're growing on me MMC :ughdance::eekdance::tiphat:

Felix 808 07-18-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2900666)
Great at Taking your Money

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/smilies/spit.gif I was thinking the same

http://global3.memecdn.com/still-waiting_o_1679269.jpg

NoLaKrewe 07-18-2014 06:21 PM

This thread is quite funny

aszyd 07-18-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2899979)
Does this sound weird to anyone other than me. I'm kicking the idea of FI my sedan and found a place that "says" they sell the GTM twin turbo kits. I asked if they had them in stock and was told no, of course not, when I asked about the issues GTM has been having delivering kits this is what I got back?

Thanks for the reply.
Seems like a lot of those complaints are from a group buy gone bad (which I am not familiar with). We have sold many GTM kits. If you place your order knowing you will someday get your parts, but the lead time is long, your concerns should be alleviated. The quality of the GTM products we have sold has always been industry leading. If you are willing to wait, feel free to place your order and we would be happy to provide you with the best service in the industry! Let me know if you have any further questions. Please note that GTM will offer many unrealistic lead times. Take their info with a grain of salt. There is no telling when it will ship until you can track it on its way to your door. If you have that outlook on the process, you will be very happy with your purchase.
Thanks!

Grant
The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of cheap price is forgotten
.

So pretty much through you 8k and I may see my stuff SOMEDAY?

At least they were honest with you. I can't fault the thinking either. There have been parts that I wanted, but knew up front that it would take a while to get, so I placed my order and "forgot" about it. I was happy when they finally arrived. Of course, these things didn't cost thousands of dollars like a TT kit.

Ill 07-18-2014 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aszyd (Post 2900993)
At least they were honest with you. I can't fault the thinking either. There have been parts that I wanted, but knew up front that it would take a while to get, so I placed my order and "forgot" about it. I was happy when they finally arrived. Of course, these things didn't cost thousands of dollars like a TT kit.

Agreed on the honesty part. I am one of the few "pro GTM*" people on the forum, but I can respect the honesty of the company that replied to that email. Any chance you can tell us which one it was?

*Pro GTM in the sense that I 100% disagree with the way the Group Buy was handled and empathize with the ones participating in it, but I believe they will correct all the wrong doings and eventually come back as a respected vendor.

NoLaKrewe 07-18-2014 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ill (Post 2901008)
Agreed on the honesty part. I am one of the few "pro GTM*" people on the forum, but I can respect the honesty of the company that replied to that email. Any chance you can tell us which one it was?

*Pro GTM in the sense that I 100% disagree with the way the Group Buy was handled and empathize with the ones participating in it, but I believe they will correct all the wrong doings and eventually come back as a respected vendor.

He had edited it. It was like turbo-kits.com or something along those lines.

BlkNismo 07-19-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ill (Post 2901008)

*Pro GTM in the sense that I 100% disagree with the way the Group Buy was handled and empathize with the ones participating in it, but I believe they will correct all the wrong doings and eventually come back as a respected vendor.

this is not even possible....GTM has not made any efforts to make this right or even seek out to members waiting refunds/order details in over 1 year...
I should have bailed with the masses back in September/October 2013.

ANMVQ 07-19-2014 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 2901009)
He had edited it. It was like turbo-kits.com or something along those lines.

It was turbo kits.com I had bought stuff from them before in my DSM days.
I will probaly use them again as I just liked up a GST Spyser from a friend with only 88k on it and paint Infiniti pearl white ;)

Dzel 08-17-2014 06:30 PM

Came in to get an update. Sweet everything's the same as last year. Carry on.

BlkNismo 08-17-2014 06:40 PM

You want an update...

I call GTM to see what`s going on with the group buy mhi kits.

Real quick rundown.

Sam does not and will not send emails anymore...
Sam will not call you back.
GTM is still waiting on the same cast parts as they were 1 year ago.
GTM will not tell me where these cast parts are being produced and was very interested in why I would ask such a question.

Baer383 08-17-2014 06:41 PM

:wtf2::facepalm:

NoLaKrewe 08-17-2014 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkNismo (Post 2934203)
You want an update...

I call GTM to see what`s going on with the group buy mhi kits.

Real quick rundown.

Sam does not and will not send emails anymore...
Sam will not call you back.
GTM is still waiting on the same cast parts as they were 1 year ago.
GTM will not tell me where these cast parts are being produced and was very interested in why I would ask such a question.

Sounds like a business I want to spend money with. Why has no one lawyered up? Or showed up?

DOOMMONKEY777 08-17-2014 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkNismo (Post 2934203)
You want an update...

I call GTM to see what`s going on with the group buy mhi kits.

Real quick rundown.

Sam does not and will not send emails anymore...
Sam will not call you back.
GTM is still waiting on the same cast parts as they were 1 year ago.
GTM will not tell me where these cast parts are being produced and was very interested in why I would ask such a question.

Yep i get the same answer. I back u up 100% pal.

Dzel 08-17-2014 08:08 PM

The people that are still in or waiting for refunds. Can you guys not all get together and lawyer up if it has to go there? I just think after this long there has to be sow thing that has to be done here. You don't pay a contractor to build you a house and live in your car until he feels like doing something with what you purchased. He is responsible to you.

MMC Racing 08-17-2014 09:14 PM

:eek: Can't believe this is still going on.

jlo370z 08-17-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2934293)
:eek: Can't believe this is still going on.

lol yes you can:icon18:

MMC Racing 08-17-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jlo370z (Post 2934298)
lol yes you can:icon18:

I really did think they would pull it all together and be back with some blow out sale to win people back. I didn't even see how deep the hole was.


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