Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 2959485)

23 months waiting for the stage 3 SC upgrades.
15 months for the 4.2 stroker
gave him a fully dressed engine 100 miles on it.
Sent him my june cams.
paid in full, last Dec. 2014.

no chance of getting money back
Looks like a $ 30.000.00 dollar loss.

im a 11 year customer and this is the first time that he has not come through.
talk to him weekly.
Had trouble with the wrong valves for the stage 3 heads, had trouble with the engine rods.
All ways has to check with the machinist or engine builder to see what is happening.
it all ways 2 weeks,
he has not been well, we are very good friends, but business is business. and im very disappointed.


nobody to blame but my self.

Z

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 2959523)

Not worth going to jail for doing that.

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 2959514)

im sure that in the next 6 months he will have it ready.
Ive just missed my last 3, z drag racing days up here.
over the last year.
Vivid racing just called last week, my Ings + 1 body kit is here. including the fenders.

Why get a lawyer " American greed show" better option

Z

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 2959485)

23 months waiting for the stage 3 SC upgrades.
15 months for the 4.2 stroker
gave him a fully dressed engine 100 miles on it.
Sent him my june cams.
paid in full, last Dec. 2014.

no chance of getting money back
Looks like a $ 30.000.00 dollar loss.

im a 11 year customer and this is the first time that he has not come through.
talk to him weekly.
Had trouble with the wrong valves for the stage 3 heads, had trouble with the engine rods.
All ways has to check with the machinist or engine builder to see what is happening.
it all ways 2 weeks,
he has not been well, we are very good friends, but business is business. and im very disappointed.


nobody to blame but my self.

Z

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 2950343)

We made a set of manifolds for our 350z, to put GTX3076R's on the side. They arent exactly available for order, although we could make more. These were about fitting really large turbos... probably larger than anyone else has put on the side of the VQ (rather than down below like most the big turbo VQs). These manifolds would be a pain in the *** for anyone wanting to install them to their GTM kit. Nothing would fit up correctly, and you would have to redo everything and buy new turbine housings.

If someone sent us the GTM manifolds, we could make bolt up replacements for them. Depending on how many people wanted them, and depending on what style, we could probably make a batch of them.

Things to consider:

More people (possible GB), brings costs down

Fabricated has less upfront investment and less initial time involved than cast, but has higher individual costs unless the volume is REALLY high, which it wouldnt be. Fabricated ones stay just as hard to make forever, where castings are easy as pie once the expensive tooling is built and refined.

Fabricated can be easily repaired by any welder if it ever cracked. Cast *can* be repaired, but nobody wants to do it or trusts it.

Cast is able to produce nicer smoother runners in tighter spaces than fabricated reasonably can. Fabricated can make very nice smooth runners and collectors but takes more space to do so.

We could also do a hybrid billet SS and fabricated manifold that would be SICK, but we would be looking at $$$.

If someone sends me the GTM manifolds, I can put the flange relationships into CAD and then we could consider options if you guys wanted.

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 2960306)

Is the last part a joke? Why would you be the one to blame? You paid cash for a service/product to be rendered in a reasonable time. Almost two years with nothing to show for is something you should not blame yourself for. I really don't care how good friends you two are. There is no excuse to taking 30k and not completing what was agreed upon on a reasonable time and fashion.

Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2960359)

I have extra set of gtm manifold you want them.

Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2960479)

Regardless of "MHI GB", where is GTM now? Are they selling other parts? did someone purchased anything from them beside the MHI turbo kit in last few months?

Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2960466)

I actually have two set of GTM manifolds :P
they are sitting in my store collecting dust. are you serious about inspecting and improving them?

Originally Posted by SwissCheese (Post 2960562)

With all of the people involved in this, has anyone thought to put together a class action lawsuit or something?

Originally Posted by dichoi (Post 2960632)

i work in the credit card industry. my advice to those waiting for refunds would be to first request a refund from GTM. need to give the seller a chance to come through. if this doesn't work, open up a claim with your bank and start the chargeback process for goods/services not delivered. seems like it'll be an easy case to win.

Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 2960688)

If you read the thread I'm pretty sure everyone has both requested cancelation and given plenty of time. That's what makes this thread so hard to read.

Originally Posted by dichoi (Post 2960695)

Haha that's my fault. I didn't want to read through 15 pages. But filing for a chargeback would be an easy solution I would think.

Originally Posted by Infiniti370z (Post 2962109)

Does any one know Sam's full name and if he is the full/only owner of gtm? Thank you, I tried to be patient but i'am going lawyer up, i'am tired of his run around bulls#*$.

Originally Posted by Neo187H (Post 2962198)

You can sue in small claims court in Cali for up to $10,000, only problem is finding the exact business name to sue them. "GTM Motor sports" doesn't cut it as far as all of that goes.