Unless a person is a collector in cars that actually appreciate in value, cars aren't an investment at all.

You're correct. I never should have used the term investment, because I know it is not one.

Finally we agree on something MMC! :bowrofl:

And GTM hasnt even chimed in on this! This is exactly why I'm just going to do a 75 shot on the Z.

I truly don't even care about speed anymore. Been there done that with my STI

I will mention it to Sam tomorrow when I call him for an update on my build.

:iagree: There are very few cars that appreciate in value

Who are you and who is doing your tuning? I am part of the biggest Z and G club in the area and the only one with a GTM kit on 370z is my friend steven. It is hard to believe that you are local and haven't crossed paths with the group or been to any shows or anything? Would have heard about your build.

now it gets interesting lol

someone grab a group popcorn

:drama::drama:

Only brought two but I'll share:tup:

i got the :koolaidwall: ... we're set now

Don't forget, anything that involves GTM complaining has to include one of these

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Now we're GOOD!

:drama::drama::drama: More to join the group if i may

I'm in :drama::drama:

don't know how i forgot that, glad you're paying attention

we got more popcorn than GTM does turbos -_-

You guys throwing around 25k - 40k on performance parts are big pimping. I'd just LS swap mine and call it a day for half price.

I'm sure I would get tormented for having a half breed and would feel bad... until I punched it.

If someone wants to get philosophical about it, a car required to get to work could be considered an investement as the end result is a paycheck (as an investment is always in the pursuit of profit). The government recognizes this for businesses by allowing depreciation and mileage allowances.

A pleasure car is another story.

If the government stayed the F*CK out of people's business they'd have a lot more money for things like TT's and such. :tiphat:

I am not local, I SHIPPED my car to GTM. He is going to SHIP it back when they are done. I am located in Bellevue, Nebraska. About 5 miles outside of Offutt Air Force Base, if you want to get technical.

LS swapping is actually really expensive, you need to buy a jazzed up one to make it worth it, and the swap kits themselves are usually 3-5k and install is gonna murder your pocketbook. it ends up costing 10-30k all said and done to get the gauges and power-steering, and wiring, and exhaust, and drive shaft, and mounts, engine and transmission + work to bring them up to the performance level, bigger clutch and 5-10k in labor. If you DIY it yeah can save a lot of money but it ends up coming down to not that many people can actually DIY that.

Not to mention the $40K number came from Ill including the amount he paid for his Z ($22K) since GTM is in possession of the entire vehicle. I wouldn't expect a typical FI kit installed on a 370Z to push much past $20K.

That's what I was thinking. Pre owned TT kit is about 6k and another 1k if you want to revamp the turbos. 10 psi stock block is the better option then doing the swap, cutting, and worse of all re-sale of the car.

I've got connections to make it happen. However, I'm not sold on the idea yet.

Ok. That makes A LOT more sense. I was thinking that better do 9sec in the 1/4 for 40k.

sooooooo it seems 99% have had issues with them and 1% have had success with them. hmmmmm

I think it's majorty of people that have problems with their communication the time it takes to have parts delivered. Once they finally receive everything, is is as expected it should be quality wise. Few people, few that I know about anyways, have had quality controll issues, cracked manifolds and defective parts on delivery, but it gets sorted out majority of the time.

Such mods are expensive. What do I regret from this? Getting an EBC and a proper tune from the get go. I want more power. Why? It's fun, and it doesn't involve wreckless driving either. It feels good and sounds so cool, so I don't regret any of it. In fact, it's pretty rare I mash the throttle in 1st and 2nd.

The one thing that I can say is pretty consistent with GTM turbo kits or builds is that they either have problems and issues getting them resolved OR they end up selling before it becomes a money pit.

Plenty of GTM customers have praised the company and bashed the "competition" (with exception of the OGs) and then turned around and complained later. I just don't get it......

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This is a very much needed thread in this community. Way to go OP.

An LSX swap is crazy expensive. If you have an LS1 laying around then yeah maybe. But at the end of the day you can just buy a built car that already has an LSX in it and save you money.

Just to put things in perspective since I backed out of the MHI group buy. I've bought 2 vehicles one for the wife and the other broke into the low 11's, then got it to break into the 10's. Now I'm going turbo with a progressive boost program hoping to get closer to the 9's. I won't break 9's until I swap my block out for a built 383.
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All the while GTM sounds like they are in the same place they were last year with the group buy, customer support, products that have failed, so on and so forth.

unless you have done it yourself before, an LSX swap will either be a nightmare to DIY or very expensive shop wise, you'll get what 400rwhp out of a N/A LS1? what's the point..

I was considering doing this a while ago along with a VK56 swap, but the money and time involved just doesn't seem worth it, for the cost of a twin turbo kit/supercharger kit can't go wrong especially if you are living in the US which most of you are, if I was in the US I'd go a BP kit without hesitation.

I'm just kicking myself I didn't get my stillen kit 1.5 years ago instead of waiting for the MHI turbo kit..

2 week turn around for the kit, 1 week max to install taking plenty of time and making sure everything is fine, there is a lot more screwing around then I originally anticipated to get it installed but even still, no other choice here ;)

STILL waiting on my bank to refund me though from the MHI group buy.. getting close to that 45 day period they were talking about that it would take, hopefully soon.

GL to anyone still in that thing

btw has anyone rang lately to ask about the "cast parts" we were waiting on for over 1 year?

Probably the shipping method..

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Lol that's right they've been on a ship for the last few months now....


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Lol.......wow!

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I asked Sam this last week as I await my refund, he said they're still waiting on the cast parts. The parts are paid for, just still waiting. Still no expected date that he could share...

Does anyone think that maybe the company that they asked to do the cast parts took the money and ran? Why else would it take this long? I am in no way saying that just a thought.

I mentioned this thread to Sam a few days ago when I called him. He said he is aware of what everybody is saying and he acknowledged where he messed up. He also claimed that there are multiple people that he knows he will never be able to change their opinion of the company. His main focus right now is to make everything right by his customers. GTM wants to catch up on their orders and start to turn everything around. They want to go back to being a respected vendor and supplier of Z/G parts.

So he knows about the thread, he would rather spend his time catching up rather than posting and having a pissing contest with the same people over and over again.

I think it's a good thing, show people they can delivery rather then telling them they can.

I'm just the messenger, take his statements however you want.

Well. That sounds great and all. But if I was in his shoes I would of "delivered" something. I would of sent what I have completed on the kit to show my customers hey here's what you paid minus the cast manifolds. Followed with. "I'm sorry about the delays. As soon as they come in we'll send them to you. If you want to fabricate your own manifolds we will discount the price of the manifolds from your total."

I guess what I'm trying to say is that actions are louder than words.

I'll agree with you on that, if people want to have parts of the kit that are already completed and ready to go, they should be able to receive them if they choose. They can't really do anything with half a kit, so what's the harm in giving it to the customers, either way they have to wait for it to be completed and shipped.

that's the thing, they can't deliver! I had this very discussion with Sam about 7-8 weeks ago, expressed my concerns about not having any products yet at all but having paid in full over 1 year ago, I asked to have all of my items shipped to me that were apparently in stock (everything he told me was in stock except for 2x manifolds and some sensor component). I even said I will pay extra for shipping when the manifolds come in, he agree'd to this and asked me to give him 2-3 days to get the picking list organised, 2-3 days went by, I had rang and asked where my shipping tracking number was and he said they aren't going to send the parts anymore as him and his team think it's a bad idea.

that's when I pulled the plug and started my refund.

Actions > words

I don't expect him to respond to this thread. What people want is him to post on his own threads or make a new one with status. It is sad that he is making excuses that he isn't posting because some people are going to take him to task for his actions. The longer he stays silent, the larger that group grows.