Reflections on GTM over the years

Rusty

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1slow370

well at the end of the day there aren't to many places that can be trusted to build a stroked vhr, hell there aren't to many kits that can be trusted to stroke a vhr in the first place, if you want more displacement you have 2 options, and god loves a billet crank lol.

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SlowZ

Well after all the horror stories about them, they are probably one of the last places I would let touch my Z. I wonder how many people that don't have a spare motor for their Z would let them take over a year to finish. Not many

Ill

There really isn't any point in bringing up Z_eleminator's situation, he knew that it would take a long time to complete his project and he still did it. It's not a fair reflection of GTM at all, they are doing exactly what they said they would in his case.

Some of you might find the time they are taking ridiculous, but it's still what they said and what he finds acceptable. It's like getting mad at a gaming company for releasing a game on it's release day.

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Old - GTM TT Stage 1 - 487whp / 415wtrq - bunch of goodies.

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MMC Racing

Until they actually deliver the engine, we don't know if they will hit the expectation or not. This situation is to be seen.

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SlowZ

GTM is not the only place that can build motors, as seen by others that have had other shops successfully build theirs. What if he gets his motor back and it blows because of a faulty build? I wish anyone who is currently dealing with them the best of luck

DannyGT

I'll be honest, I've had terrible communication with Sam in the past year. I was one of the first on these forums with the SC kit from them and for the most part it was a very professional transaction. Other than some test parts that later got swapped out I'm happy with the power. I never did get to finish my video's with how pleased I was with the kit.

Then real life happen. I've been in and out of the country for two years, had a son, and was probably equally as hard to get in contact with as Sam is. However, I've been trying to throw money at him for the last 6 months or so to get some parts and I just cant seem to get him to want to take it???

Communication has always been either slow or rushed since the beginning. You get the impression he just has way to much on his plate. As a business owner, I fully understand having trust issues and having those feelings of having to do it yourself, but ****, hire a quality enthusiast that can talk the talk and take care of the phones and/or pass it off to a dedicated sales person so they push parts out the door, ffs.

That's my little opinion. I really like the guy, and from the get-go they pushed our engines further than any other tuner on these forums for a while. Their contribution and know-how has always been great. They just need extreme customer service to finish it off.

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Z eliminator

There were some delays in the build as it me some time to get him the June cams shafts, and I went with stage 3 heads as well.
AS for Sam not taking your money for some future work. He now has a different outlook on how he does future business. He does not want to get into another mess like he did with the turbo group buy.
Things are going to change at GTM. every day he is working hard to correct the problems with the group buy.
He still has a long way to go
Am I happy that my engine and the stage 3 SC upgrades are taking so long . No I am not, but it will be worth the wait if it makes over 600 to 625 rwhp. Should put my car into the high 10 second bracket in the 1/4 mile.

Z

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SlowZ

Why didn't you go with a turbo setup? You could have made an insane amount of power and had a 9 second car...

tsui_san

I just tried to call all three of their listed numbers (2 on Yelp, one on their site) and all of them were dead ends. For those who have been successful in contacting them how in the world are you doing it?

Ill

Simple...
You call (909) 481-4300 and then you wait for an answer. I get an answer and talk to an employee every time. Sam also except the rare occasion, then he calls me back.

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Old - GTM TT Stage 1 - 487whp / 415wtrq - bunch of goodies.

New - 2011 Shelby GT500 - 2.3L VMP TVS - JLT CAI.

tsui_san

Yeah I called that number and it said it was disconnected. Anyways sent them an e-mail and they haven't responded. They don't want my money, it'll go elsewhere.

phunk

It remains factual that none of the most serious Z-cars to traverse pavement ever relied on them for anything at all.

Now with them in deep hibernation, everything that some of you thought only happened because of them, well... it will keep on happening... and eventually the rest will notice how entirely unnecessary they were the entire time. Its like a bad break-up... not everyone is ready to let go or believe it's happened.

BP and FI clotheslined them with turbo kits... All thats left now to sweep GTM under the rug is a decent SC kit and a bunch of refunds.

My sympathy to those of you care, or those of you they owe money to.

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1slow370

Well except for the 5 or so odd years that they were the only company really making a kit for for our cars, well actually two kits, and built motors before the parts were readily available. yeah if you don't count that.

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