Reflections on GTM over the years

phunk

Those 5 years never happened. They have never been the only one making kits, they were just the only one bombarding the forums, and putting their name on everything anyone did. My Z has been twin turbo for a very long time, never have and never would use a single GTM part.

K1 rods (which are what GTM relabels as their own) have been available for a long time. Piston manufacturers always have and always will make you whatever you want within a couple weeks. GTM doesnt make any of those components... from since ever you thought GTM did, they were already available elsewhere.

So ya, I dont count any of that, you are just a victim of the grand illusion. Most "GTM" parts can be purchased straight from their true manufacturer.

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FPenvy

it blows my mind that threads like this against a "sponsor" stay open foooorrrrrrreeeeevvvveeeerrrrr.......

but a light street racing one got shut down in under 1 hour.



IBTL - in a year

these are fun to read though

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1slow370

I understand the parts are made by other companies, but consider gtm were the ones to send the rod info to k1 and pay to have the initial batch designed and made, they kind of made it happen, now that other companies have contacted k1 and gotten the part number they are available, the arias pistons were initially developed for gtm and what where the other options for kits? Greddy and stillen? One cant make 500hp unless you redesign half the kit and the other is 9 fuckin grand for 18g's and piping.

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phunk

Anyone can send a stock connecting rod (maybe $40?) to a manufacturer and have a set of rods made. Nobody has to have done it first. When you are ready, you just call them, and they just make it on the spot, and all is well. This is the way it is for many builds too, because lots of builders want custom specs. They dont have to wait for GTM to have ordered a batch first. There was never a day on earth that you could only get a VHR piston or connecting rod from GTM. That never happened.

The Greddy kit, said and done, didnt cost any more than the GTM kits of the time. The Greddy has gone up as the exchange got worse and because they didnt push it on the forums it wasnt popular. But it was there.

Aside from all that, pricing doesnt change the fact that it did, indeed, exist. Actually fit better too, and makes more power at lower boost. BTW they are 20g turbos not 18g.

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SlowZ

You can tell who are the GTM by reading these replies lol

1slow370

did you dial number right? works for me.

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Ill

It for sure works, talked to Sam yesterday.

Not a GTM , just providing my first hand experiences.

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jdocis317

Poor GTM. As a new Z owner I've been lurking the forums trying to figure out which companies were known for doing good work on our cars. Until I read this thread I had GTM at the top of the list. I'm not saying this thread alone has deterred me, but I've noticed much of the praise for GTM products on this forum and others has been from around 2012 and back, maybe earlier. More recently all I seem to see are unhappy owners frustrated with missed delivery dates or worse (such as not receiving their refund when they ask for it).



To be fair, it is hard to tell what exactly is causing these problems. Perhaps the production is simply overloaded. Maybe the management had a situation and had to let part of their workforce go. It is inexcusable, however, not to keep your clientele informed and feeling secure, especially the ones who have already paid you money.

For myself, I am in no hurry to give my car, much less my money, to any company dealing with these problems, whether it turns out to be a misunderstanding or not. If one day it gets sorted and GTM's reputation is repaired, they'll be back on my list... and I truly hope it does. For now, though, excuse me while I call Tony at Fast Intentions...

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MMC Racing

GTM used to be able to charge a price premium on their parts and labor. This was based on the belief that "you get what you pay for". The turbo group buy was a major departure for them in providing a "value" priced item, which has backfired. A logical move might be to lower prices and offer specials to retain volume, but that may squeeze cash flow even more.

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Ill

Look MMC, we get it, we all know you are anti GTM because of their failed CARB certified supercharger kit. We understand that you were burned and are very butt hurt over the situation. Everybody knows that GTM screwed up on the group buy situation however, let them TRY to bounce back. If it fails then you can forever be known as "that guy" who was anti GTM since the beginning.

Nobody here is trying to advocate GTM, most of us are just trying to give them a chance to bounce back. I have hope for the company as a whole, if I am wrong, so be it. Ill buy you a case if everything turns out in your favor. I have no hard feelings for anybody.

Cheers,
Ill

*That offer only stands with MMC

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MMC Racing

Funny as I haven't been "anti GTM since the beginning". I wanted to buy a promised product of theirs for not 1, but 2 vehicles. The "haters gonna hate" crowd is stale and boring.

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roplusbee

This thread isn't for people to argue about who is nut swinging and who is not.

My build research started back in late 2009 after I closed the deal on my 2009 NISMO Edition (while I was deployed to Iraq). I spoke with Sam and others at that time (GTM). For what they offered, it just wasn't worth the premium price that they wanted. The only other kit available at the time was Greddy. The Greddy kit had proven numbers and no issues. Of course you had to work your own management and fueling, but that seemed much better to me than the turn-key solutions that GTM provided at the time. For what I did with my build, GTM wanted much more and the parts were (more than likely) going to be rebranded or overpriced in-house pieces. Then they announce a MHI kit........come on man!

/rant

Say what you want, but GTM has never looked good in my eyes. I said it before and I will say it again.......GTM will never get any of my money! If the shoe fits, wear it. If it is black, quacks, and waddles, then it's a duck! Stop trying to defend a company that is not really pioneering anything, but making the claim. Rebranded parts are not pioneering the platform.

/end rant

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DOOMMONKEY777

This is the 1st and last time i ever buy from GTM, simply because lack of communication and updates.

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