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OK first off , sorry man to hear of your issue. What went? let me guess cyl 3 dropped right , Just like mine did 3 days after I was
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OK first off , sorry man to hear of your issue. What went? let me guess cyl 3 dropped right , Just like mine did 3 days after I was tuned. I know others have had cyl 3 drop also. I'm not here defending Bobby or anyone but it does happen. My car had 16k on it when it blew up, I had some other things that could have cause the issue but the fact is it did and were not the only ones. BTW mine was 11 PSI also. I do know that if the shop I was dealing with offered me a "deal" on a build I would have at least entertained it, I got nothing from them or the dealer that BS'd with warranty paper work then said go pound sand,. I lost over $18k that's one serious build if you ask me. I'm sure it would be a lot less than that, I know you PO'd I was just look at all you options before you jump.
Heck I sold my SC wish I kept it casue I would have put it on my sedan now. Just take a breath and look around and check every option you have.
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Yeah man, you're obviously incredibly PO'd, frustrated, and stressed, all understandably. Take a break from the thread, get some rest, get a clear mind, then look over your options. Don't burn any bridges just yet.
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IMO, I lost confidence from reading about this kit. This is supposed to be something that works out of the box, and VSR ended up making some changes and replace parts to a kit that they did not produce. This introduces some potential variables that deviates from the design of this "kit." At this point one would wonder about the rest of the components. I wouldn't blame VSR for trying, but they took some risks by making changes to the kit provided to them since it wasn't spec'd properly to begin with.
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man been there done that with my car gonna get my head gaskets fixed, part the bitch, sell it and buy a yaris lol Unless anyone wants to buy a full NA car with a drysump and a bunch of parts you can't buy haha 25k
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Why don't you see if VSR will split the cost of a tear down at a shop of your choice? This would probably clear the air. If they say tuning blew the motor, then VSR doesn't really have a leg to stand on. On the flip side, if they find a manufacturing defect then VSR would be off the hook (the chance you risk making this public)? Just an option that gives both sides a chance to clear the air on exactly what is happening.
Don't take this as me not sympathizing with you, because i do. But IMO, you can't say definitively that something caused your motor to blow before you have even opened it up.
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It sounds as though the shop is doing what they think they can to get the car right. As a consumer you paid for a service and a product that made the car no longer work. That's how lawsuits spring up.
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Earlier MMC added..."Every shop and tuner is the best in the world until they bend you over.". This is the truest statement on this whole thread and no matter where I take it there is a possibility that my ball-and-chain for luck would strike again. The charger will be shipped to Rotrex for evaluation, I want everything looked at to help ensure no problems in the future. Once the motor is taken apart and inspected the conversation with Bobby will go from there. And whatever is done will have to be backed up with Bobby's reputation wide open for everyone to see. The wife is sick of this as any wife would be and just as hesitant to let this happen, if it's a failure she'll have ammunition for ANYTHING I do in the future. I have new respect for people who have to go through this, it takes years from your life and it's hard to compromise when there is so much at stake but at this point I don't really have too many options. Didn't proof read, gotta get ready to go to work. |
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As for trust, given the amount of interest on this thread I imagine pictures of the tear down will be posted on this thread by either yourself or VSR. I am sure with the amount of knowledgeable people on this form that nothing will be hidden. Hope it all works out for you. As for your wife, if you do end up having out of pocket expenses just do what the rest of us do....tell her the invoice is 1/2 the amount
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BUT at the same time, I would like to see the tune file, did VSR advance timing like a mofo to gain that 80-90HP? (Sorry VSR, I lost trust in you guys) but besides that, I think that we have enough brains behind the forum to tell what's up. We just don't have control over what will be shown to us from VSR (and I will reiterate. Sorry VSR, I lost trust in you guys)
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You have every right to be weary of the outcome. I am sure they will do everything they can to try and make things right, if they're smart.
These forums can make or absolutely abolish a company as we've seen.
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I went through a similar situation on my GTM build. The engine had to be pulled and torn down. I never got the full story of the issues internally. The whole ordeal was a massive cluster with pressure from the wife and roughly 8 additional months of time to complete the rebuild/fix. Ultimately GTM (Sam) stepped up and paid the labor while I paid for parts. Even though this was a large cost to me that I was not planning on, I feel like he did the RIGHT thing. He could have just as easily told me to go pound sand or not covered the full labor. The deal was that I built the engine and transmission at the same time to prevent this from occurring again. So from that perspective the cash outlay from me was significant. At the end of the day I spent double what I planned for the build and it was in the shop for 10x as long as originally quoted. So I sympathize with the issues you are having (wife included). Hopefully you can look back in a year and have your car running and forget some of the pain and frustration. We are the HORROR stories you read about with forced induction. Good luck my man!
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