My motor grenaded.

DEpointfive0

I agree, only if he's reverting back to stock. Leaving the SC is a no-no; they'll get you by saying that the engine was never designed for a SC.
IF you go this route, or are thinking about it. Delete this thread. You have my backing 100%

If he fixed a kink, the PSI would go up too, not just a shitload of HP gained

I don't think I could give them the right to tear my engine apart if they are giving me a deal because (IMO) they screwed something up...

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MidnightBlueZ

Wow man, very sorry to hear this happen to you let alone anyone! Kinda has me second guessing the noise I'm hearing.. mine is more like the louder valve chatter from the VVEL like the 08-10 issue from the G37s etc. I first noticed it the day I got back from Tampa. I sent a video to Bobby and he said it was the VVEL and advised me to change the oil to Ester oil which I did and no luck. I took the car (as instructed) to the dealer I bought it from to get it recalibrated and they didn't want to touch it for liability reasons. So I'm dealing with that. The car drives fine and pulls strong, Ive done some logs everything is supposedly fine. AFR looks good. So I'm not sure.. I'm gonna look for some metal in the oil I drained tomorrow but this has me wanting to pull my pan off and check things out.

My other issue has been white smoking which I think I've narrowed down to oil trapped in my muffler and midpipes. The feed line I got was different then the normal steel braided one. Bobby thought that was the problem because it was a little bigger diameter line? Anyway I see no signs of oil pooling in any plumbing/piping besides the very rear exhaust after switching lines so hopefully after ditching this stock exhaust that goes away fully.

I really hope you can get this resolved in some reasonable way. I remember seeing your car when I went to pick mine up. Bobby and I talked about how much crap you have dealt with. This is the absolute last thing anyone needs but things do happen. However I am with you on the "it wont happen to me" train of thought. Not sure I buy the whole 1 in 100 excuse either but what do I know. I know I took a risk going this route and I usually have shitty luck. I'll be interested to see what actually broke and what Bobby has to say. Our cars are alot alike besides the kit.. 13' about the same mileage.. regardless I wish you the best of luck man try to keep your head up!

Infidel

I already talked to Bobby. He basically said he's not at fault and blamed it on the motor. It won't be long before he responds and we'll get a chance to hear what he has to say to the community.

ETA...I sincerely hope you have no issues. Send some oil to Blackstone Labs, they'll let you know.

MidnightBlueZ

I definitely understand your point of view and the amount of disgust you must have right now. I haven't spoke to him in a week or two.. hope he has a thorough explanation. Hold your head.. you aren't the first or last one for something like this to happen. You know in this game all you can do is hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Joepro

I would also ask for all the dyno runs with the AFR printouts from the tune, I think they are worth seeing. The truth is we may never know, but if you lost a rod bearing that's usually due to low oil, or you just had a bad one, but there are a lot of "ifs" until we know more.

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DEpointfive0

I got a text this morning from Dale (Infidel) with the bad news... It felt like I was the one who got a kick in the balls...


And COSMO, I didn't expect to see from you, but brother

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black_sedan

Until the motor is torn down, its hard to say its the tuner's fault. If the motor was starved for oil due to a bad oil pump you cant blame it on the tuner. Again, not taking sides... But there are so many factors outside of the control of the tuner.

Joepro's suggestion would probably be best. Put the motor back to stock and have the dealer look it over. Keep in mind, if the dealer does figure out the car was modded you can be on the hook the diagnostics labor.

DEpointfive0

Very true. and Nissan is now full of cheap motherfuckers so they'll be LOOKING for unscrewed nuts and bolts. You can deny, yeah, but how much?

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Joepro

Again to trying to beat a dead horse, but if it got to a judge, the judge will ask for proof the engine was tampered with in a manor to cause the failure, and the dealer will respond with what, a bolt is loose? It won't fly, trust me, been there, lost that . However, there is a member on the forum that had an engine replaced twice with his car boosted, some dealers just don't care, it will depend on their warranty expense that month, that will be the only reason they will look to deny it, no one wants a motor claim under non-discretionary. Again, it just depends on the goal of the car, if it were me, that is the route I would take, the SC kits are far less intrusive that the turbo kits, as long as VSR did not make any of their own permanent modifications and followed the bolt on instructions, I would go for it, the kit has to come off at some point anyway...I actually considered the VSR kit for awhile, but they only do in-house builds, at lease now if my motor goes to installation error I can only blame myself! To be honest, I would not have boosted this car if I did not have a shop to work in and the knowledge I have(not saying Im a mechanical genius) but I would have bough my HP, c7 looks awfully good for the price point! My second route would be used motor, sell the SC kit, trade trade that b^$%h in.

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Chuck33079

Could the motor have just let go? Sure, it could have happened that way. But considering how much difficulty VSR had getting the SC installed and running right in the first place and then the motor just happens to let go right after, I'm very inclined to believe they fubar'd the install and tune.

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COSMO

I would suggest getting a good nights sleep and rethink things in the morning. Decision making while being upset is not a good idea and often never solves anything...

Infidel

Yes, I need a good night's sleep. A quaalude and a couple of shots of whiskey would be a good prescription.

To get it back to stock to the point it would be believable in itself would be a huge gamble for the price it would cost.

COSMO

I have price used motors with most everything for around 4k and would be more than happy to help you find one if thats what you decide on..

Infidel

My mind is fried right now thinking about options. As I said before, my resources are tight. Might have to sell a rifle or two, that alone makes me want to throw up again. I'll try to get some sleep tonight and get the car back in the driveway tomorrow. I'll be 'minivaning' it for a while, Andrew will get a kick out of that one.

elperuano

Just wanna point out there has been around 2-3 blown motors with VSR.