GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development

SAM@GTM · 09-10-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

soooo - if i were to get a non-carb kit... and then your carb kit came out - how hard would it be for me to make mine carb ok? I dont mind loosing some power for peace of mind... also - how hard would it be to go from CARB ok kit to not so carb ok kit?

I think the answer to that is you really have to decide what is you goal and what is more important to you, the carb sticker or the horse power, Our intention is to get the most out of all the stages including the carb legal kit so we will have to wait and see

Sam

SAM@GTM · 09-10-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by john370z

Sam

any chance the testing and tuning could be done by SEMA this year?

john

Yes

Our Goal is to start testing by the end of the month

Sam

SAM@GTM · 09-10-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

i know the pictures showed the engine out with the supercharger but is it required to drop the engine? Because if you dont need to drop the engine it shouldnt take $1000 for install...free if you can do it yourself.

The Engine is out to make the R&D a little easier, But it would not be a requirement to preform the install.

Even our turbo kit installation does not require pulling the engine out of the car .

Sam

SAM@GTM · 09-10-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by john370z

Thanks for the link to URD performance. You are right the supercharger produces great power good torque. Check out the price breakdown:
Base $5,995.00
2 - 10 $3,895.00
11 - 20 $3,895.00
21 - 30 $3,895.00
31 - 40 $3,895.00
41 - 50 $3,895.00

51 - 60 $3,895.00
61 - 70 $3,895.00
71 - 80 $3,895.00
81 - 90 $3,895.00
91 - 100 $3,895.00
Above $3,895.00

I believe this is for the entire kit. I hope we are able to get a similar discount rather than expected to pay ultra-high retail because we are the first to be interested.

$2800 for the blower and another $1000 for the intercooler are at full retail prices. I am sure GTM is getting both for about half. The Tacoma kits that are priced above are similar to what the 370 z will need plus an intercooler and oil cooler.

I think GTM could price it uninstalled for under $6000, but will they try to recoup investment faster by charging more.

I hope not!

Sam I hope you can talk to the upper brass and get an incredible price for you fans on this and other forums. Once the word is out the volume should achieve profits far greater than over priced kits. Just my thought..
John

I know that our price will be inline and competitive, It is really hard right now to give any accurate information but if i have to give an educated guess, i think we are going to be between 5500 to 6500 depending on what stage we are talking about

here is an example so you can get an idea, Our GTM 350ZHR turn key turbo kit has the best of everything ... garret turbos(water and oil cooled ball bearing),bar and plate intercooler,Tbolt clams and it does come complete with fuel system and ems for 7495.00

The Greddy turbo kit for the 350ZHR comes with journal bearing turbos (non ball bearing ) tube and fin intercooler no Tbolt clamps no fuel system and no ems solution for 8495.00

Get my point

Sam

m4a1mustang · 09-10-2009, 10:38 PM

I think I get your point. Pricing should be pretty good.

SAM@GTM · 09-10-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think I get your point. Pricing should be pretty good.

B1nks · 09-10-2009, 10:53 PM

I would love to have a supercharger for this car but the GTM turbocharged setups are just sooooooooooo sick that it would be hard to decide. <3 GTM's previous work.

m4a1mustang · 09-10-2009, 10:56 PM

If pricing is right and the gains are there this is definitely a kit that I'd go after. I am mechanically inclined and don't think this would be too difficult an install where I'd need to pay someone else to do it.

Snakes709 · 09-10-2009, 11:03 PM

might be a dumb question but im going to ask it anyways. Does the fuel system have to be upgraded if you get the supercharger kit or twin turbo kit? I'm seeing you have upgraded fuel systems for the 370z? or is that for the 350? I'm still learning how the 370z engine works and whatnot, i know on my supercharger cobalt i had to upgrade to 60lb injectors to run my 2.8 pulley and then i switched to the harrop tvs supercharger i was at 89% idc on the 60lb injectors so it was almost time to go to the 79lb injectors. Just wondering will the 370z be like that? if not when is it time to change to bigger injectors?

jmlenz · 09-10-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

8k? thats TT terrictory.

I want MAX 6k installed. Probably less.

$6k installed is a pipe dream my friend. And FYI $8k installed is no where near TT territory for the 370. Your looking at 11k+ installed, so yes I think $8k installed would be reasonable for the SC.

Of course any cheaper would just be icing on the cake

...are you listening George?

1SickVeilside · 09-10-2009, 11:35 PM

Wow this has been some interesting reading.... I take it most people on here purchased the 370Z and never owned a 350Z? From experience the guys at GTM are the s**t when it comes to the FI world. I have had friends and personal experience that any TT build will be priced around 15k+ if you want the job done right and a supercharger kit from about 9k+. The fact is you will never be satisfied and you get what you pay for.

A lot of people jump into the game thinking they'll just buy the kit slap it on and good to go. Not always the case, you still need a tune, possibly different injectors, fuel system, gauges, upgrade the pulley (if you have a SC), an engine managment etc. These things add up real quick and will put you over the budget in a heart beat.

Of course the HR motor is a different beast in it's own from the previous VQ motors, so it's kind of like comparing apples to oranges. The good thing about the HR is it takes to mods well and produces the power. I guess as time goes we will really see what the true price of a good build will run. For those thinking the 6-7 range I hope you guys have a different credit card to put the rest of it on.

I look forward to the rest of GTM's results, I know it will be promising and better then any other kits put on the market.

jmlenz · 09-11-2009, 12:20 AM

^^^ agreed. However, doesnt GTM basically provide a turn key kit with everything you need included ie; engine & fuel managment, injectors, etc? If GTM installs their own kit does that include a tune?

racerxj17 · 09-11-2009, 01:05 AM

you guys all have it wrong. we need to have everyone post up they wont pay more than 5k just so that GTM will feel obligated to keep the price down. it might not work, but its worth a shot

racerxj17 · 09-11-2009, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john370z

Thanks for the link to URD performance. You are right the supercharger produces great power good torque. Check out the price breakdown:
Base $5,995.00
2 - 10 $3,895.00
11 - 20 $3,895.00
21 - 30 $3,895.00
31 - 40 $3,895.00
41 - 50 $3,895.00

51 - 60 $3,895.00
61 - 70 $3,895.00
71 - 80 $3,895.00
81 - 90 $3,895.00
91 - 100 $3,895.00
Above $3,895.00

I believe this is for the entire kit. I hope we are able to get a similar discount rather than expected to pay ultra-high retail because we are the first to be interested.

$2800 for the blower and another $1000 for the intercooler are at full retail prices. I am sure GTM is getting both for about half. The Tacoma kits that are priced above are similar to what the 370 z will need plus an intercooler and oil cooler.

I think GTM could price it uninstalled for under $6000, but will they try to recoup investment faster by charging more.

I hope not!

Sam I hope you can talk to the upper brass and get an incredible price for you fans on this and other forums. Once the word is out the volume should achieve profits far greater than over priced kits. Just my thought..
John

URD's first rotrex system was 4k, complete, ready to rock and roll. im not so sure why the huge jump in price once the TRD blower came out. I was the VERY first person to have it installed on my truck....was a decent kit. made 311 rwhp with meth on my tacoma that dynoed 192hp stock. ofcourse the TRD blower made 350rwhp on my truck with an assload more TQ....

SAM@GTM · 09-11-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

might be a dumb question but im going to ask it anyways. Does the fuel system have to be upgraded if you get the supercharger kit or twin turbo kit? I'm seeing you have upgraded fuel systems for the 370z? or is that for the 350? I'm still learning how the 370z engine works and whatnot, i know on my supercharger cobalt i had to upgrade to 60lb injectors to run my 2.8 pulley and then i switched to the harrop tvs supercharger i was at 89% idc on the 60lb injectors so it was almost time to go to the 79lb injectors. Just wondering will the 370z be like that? if not when is it time to change to bigger injectors?

Fuel system is part of the Kit. When add air you got to add fuel in a simple way .

Sam

09-10-2009, 10:38 PM	#95 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I think I get your point. Pricing should be pretty good. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

09-10-2009, 10:56 PM	#98 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	If pricing is right and the gains are there this is definitely a kit that I'd go after. I am mechanically inclined and don't think this would be too difficult an install where I'd need to pay someone else to do it. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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racerxj17 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 555 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	you guys all have it wrong. we need to have everyone post up they wont pay more than 5k just so that GTM will feel obligated to keep the price down. it might not work, but its worth a shot __________________ 2009 PW Sport/Touring/Nav M6 Stillen Gen 3 Intake/CBE/Berk HFC/BC BR Coil over/Phillips 6500k/Hotchkis Sways/Stillen oil cooler/B&M SS

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1SickVeilside Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: 909/951 Posts: 19 Drives: Z Rep Power: 15	Wow this has been some interesting reading.... I take it most people on here purchased the 370Z and never owned a 350Z? From experience the guys at GTM are the s**t when it comes to the FI world. I have had friends and personal experience that any TT build will be priced around 15k+ if you want the job done right and a supercharger kit from about 9k+. The fact is you will never be satisfied and you get what you pay for. A lot of people jump into the game thinking they'll just buy the kit slap it on and good to go. Not always the case, you still need a tune, possibly different injectors, fuel system, gauges, upgrade the pulley (if you have a SC), an engine managment etc. These things add up real quick and will put you over the budget in a heart beat. Of course the HR motor is a different beast in it's own from the previous VQ motors, so it's kind of like comparing apples to oranges. The good thing about the HR is it takes to mods well and produces the power. I guess as time goes we will really see what the true price of a good build will run. For those thinking the 6-7 range I hope you guys have a different credit card to put the rest of it on. I look forward to the rest of GTM's results, I know it will be promising and better then any other kits put on the market.

09-11-2009, 12:20 AM	#102 (permalink)
jmlenz Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 645 Drives: a car Rep Power: 643	^^^ agreed. However, doesnt GTM basically provide a turn key kit with everything you need included ie; engine & fuel managment, injectors, etc? If GTM installs their own kit does that include a tune?