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Hello, Once again in other dilemma, so after deciding to keep my 370z I've decided to go Forced induction route however I'm unsure which to choose since they each got

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Old 02-15-2014, 10:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,

Once again in other dilemma, so after deciding to keep my 370z I've decided to go Forced induction route however I'm unsure which to choose since they each got their pros and cons.


So far:

GTM SC

Pros:
-Available locally
-Very Good price(~3450$)
-Less headache, good for DD

Cons:
-used(not really a con)


GTM TT

Pros:
-Cheapest twin turbo
-Turbo over SC(since my dream is to have a turbo)
-price ~7000$

Cons:
-Terrible customer service
-delivery date not announced


FI TT

Pros:
-Super clean looks(need that for car passing here)
-Better customer service than GTM
-More power? maybe

Cons:
-Really expensive (~10,000$)


Now with all the above its seems the SC is the best route however I keep rethinking it and try to convince myself to save up and go turbo instead. I'm really baffled right now.

Any opinions/input appreciated.
Also this isn't "which is better" thread, simply seeking input from other people so it might influence my decision.


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I'm not sure where "Dubs" is located but if they have a Nissan community you should go to a meet and feel and hear the difference between a sc vs tt. They are two different animals. One is linear and loud when off throttle (bypass valve), and one is torquey and more upgradeable when you hit that point.

It also depends if your doing the build yourself and how knowledgeable you are in mechanics. Lots of variables here. But if your dream is to have a turbo why cut yourself short of that only to get something you didn't really want in the first place.

Take some advice...do it right the first time.
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Let me be the first to say that there is a lot more that goes into a proper FI setup then just the purchase of the kit. As a rule of thumb I would add at least $5k for clutch, heat management (oil cooler, radiator upgrade, wrapping, etc.), gauges, etc. Not to mention that you will have probably $1,500-2,000 in labor for SC install and upwards of $3k for either turbo setup.

All that being said I vote for turbo!!! I went with the BP kit cause I can install it myself in the garage.
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It's Dubai , I've already considered all the additions plus the SC kit includes oil cooler and tranny cooler. It's basically the price of the SC which is making me lean towards it. In terms of power and feels of both , doesn't really matter to me since I'm pretty sure they're both fun to drive.


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Well if it doesnt really matter to you then this thread is pointless. Carry on with the cheapest route.
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Hard to beat the price of the SC kit. If you aren't power hungry, I would pick that up and get the supporting mods you need. Throw on a custom tune and call it a day
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Hard to beat the price of the SC kit. If you aren't power hungry, I would pick that up and get the supporting mods you need. Throw on a custom tune and call it a day
I'm definitely not power hungry yet, my goal is about 400+ whp.
I think thats what I'm gonna do, after watching your twin SC videos it really made want to stick to the supercharger.

What supporting mods do you recommend besides a clutch and flywheel.


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Well if it doesnt really matter to you then this thread is pointless. Carry on with the cheapest route.
I meant more of the max power, both will make approximately the same for my target. Of course the turbo is much more fun to drive when it gets into boost and sounds much better :P, but the supercharger is good too just not as good as the turbo IMO.

Anyway I think i've made up my mind.
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That's easy. Just look at his sig. But a csc and monitor gauges are your musts.
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No for SC. These engines are so small and SCing it wont help.. Look at the torque of the SC.. almost same as stock AMG and M power.

Turbo is the game changer!!

I vote for Boost performance turbo kit if you drive M.T
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No for SC. These engines are so small and SCing it wont help.. Look at the torque of the SC.. almost same as stock AMG and M power.

Turbo is the game changer!!

I vote for Boost performance turbo kit if you drive M.T

Doesn't seem like the boosted performance kit is stealthy enough to pass inspection here. I don't know how the other guys here are doing it, they got full twin turbo super clear under the hood or engine swaps and their cars pass. They don't wanna share the secret :P. I'm still thinking about it, sparada on gtz has his kit for 13,500 dhs whereas a turbo kit would cost me about 26,000 with shipping. Touch decision !

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Well. Im telling you, SC will not satisfy you (it wont satisfy me atleast)

The statement of SC being DD while turbo cant is totally wrong, SC is always on Boost while Turbo only goes on boost after you put some more throttle, So whos the DD now?

As i said Turbo is the game changer.

Go for Boosted performance . Ask Sasha to powder coat your pipes and intercooler if you're looking for stealth.

One other thing. Who the hell quoted you 26k dollars for your turbo kit shipped? wtf?
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Well. Im telling you, SC will not satisfy you (it wont satisfy me atleast)

The statement of SC being DD while turbo cant is totally wrong, SC is always on Boost while Turbo only goes on boost after you put some more throttle, So whos the DD now?

As i said Turbo is the game changer.

Go for Boosted performance . Ask Sasha to powder coat your pipes and intercooler if you're looking for stealth.

One other thing. Who the hell quoted you 26k dollars for your turbo kit shipped? wtf?
I meant 26k dhs lol I cant find any details about the boosted performance one. From the pictures it looks like the turbo is mounted in the exhaust piping which definitely wont pass inspection.

Only reason I decided going Forced induction is because of stock look the GTM and Fast Intentions ones give. There's a high chance the inspectors might miss it.

I also agree with you about the turbo being a gamechanger but I guess i was trying to convince myself the SC is better.

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Lol okay, thought youre talking about $. Well you can always PM/call me if you need any help in decisions.
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I have said it before and will say it again but VSR out of tampa has a single turbo turn key kit for $8500 tune included, done.. Great customer service and lots of z' and g' with that kit with No issues...
I would have went that route instead of gtm if only I knew. That FI kit looks sweet but after a new clutch, tune, etc, etc, your going to be right at around 15k before its all said and done.
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