Before Installing Stillen Supercharger

[Felors]

Hi guys, I want to get some input on my setup before I supercharge:
2016 24k miles Base

FI Cat Back Exhaust (Non-resonated)
FI Resonated Test Pipes
34 row Oil Cooler Kit
FI 7AT Billet Aluminum Flex Plate
Stillen Transmission Cooler Kit

I will get a UpRev tune when I get the supercharger installed. This should also help with the transmission.

thanks

[wideglideleon]

Looks pretty good to me.
I have been running the Stillen with TopgunZ's air to air upgrade with pretty much same set up. I'm just running HF cats, and stock flex plate. No problems in over six months.

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by wideglideleon

TopgunZ's air to air upgrade

OP, do this.

[Felors]

Where can I get the upgrade? Do I need to message Topgunz?

[Jayhovah]

Originally Posted by Felors

Where can I get the upgrade? Do I need to message Topgunz?

yup. This should be a mandatory mod. And also TBatt's belt slip mod.

[turtle64b]

Sounds good man!

I am about 98% done with my build, pending tune, and then I will be adding the oil cooler and the CJM baffled oil pan per recommendation from here.

Definitely go with Topgunz Air-air setup! If you do the install yourself, it adds almost no time to it since you're hooking up and setting up all of the water stuff. TBatt's extra pulley mod adds about 2 minutes to install and eliminates the belt slip up high.

The only downside to the above things: If you are buying a new Stillen kit and that is all that you want for awhile, then I wouldn't recommend the air-air and the extra pulley yet since your kit new comes with a warranty that gets voided as soon as you modify it. I picked my kit up secondhand, so I wasn't really concerned about that aspect. That is the ONLY downside to the above mods.

Down the line if you want more power, you'll want to upgrade your injectors and potentially your fuel system.

Many folks might push you towards ecutek for the tune. I had Uprev for my NA tune and I switched to ecutek for my current tune.

If you'd have only started this sooner! Haha. I was just in Carrollton visiting my family for a week and I woulda loved to come help out a little!

Good luck man!

-Brett

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by turtle64b

The only downside to the above things: If you are buying a new Stillen kit and that is all that you want for awhile, then I wouldn't recommend the air-air and the extra pulley yet since your kit new comes with a warranty that gets voided as soon as you modify it. I picked my kit up secondhand, so I wasn't really concerned about that aspect. That is the ONLY downside to the above mods.

See, here's the thing with the Stillen warranty. It requires you to use everything as it comes out of the box, and their tune is a ******* disaster. Not to mention the MAF being pre-intercooler. So if you keep the kit stock, you get to keep the warranty, but you're far, far more likely to use it. If you ditch the water-to-air setup and get a good tune, you lose the warranty but are much less likely to need it anyway.

Originally Posted by turtle64b

Down the line if you want more power, you'll want to upgrade your injectors and potentially your fuel system.

Many folks might push you towards ecutek for the tune. I had Uprev for my NA tune and I switched to ecutek for my current tune.

Going up a size on injector and switching to Ecutek at the beginning saves you the re-tune when you inevitably want more out of it.

[Felors]

Thanks everyone for your inputs. I am probably going to stick with the stock Stillen Surpercharger but might go with the EcuTek tune. I will add the A2A and idler pulley if I want more power later down the road.


I learned from reading on other forums that the belt slippage occurs when upgrading to the 9lb pulley, right? So with the stock, there should be little to no slippage? I am guess the purpose of the idler pulley y'all recommend was to prevent slippage?

Thanks again

[TopgunZ]

Your dollar per horsepower is going to be insanely high with the stillen kit with warranty. To keep the warranty you have to keep the tune they send which like Chuck said is complete garbage. There were guys making a whopping 75 more hp with that setup. You can get that from just adding breathing mods and re-tune! Not to mention the driveability of that tune. Limp, hesitant, known to be unsafe. Yes it will feel like a more powerful car with just the stillen out of the box setup. But the HP and fun factor you are leaving on the table is wildly illogical.

[Chuck33079]

You stand an exponentially higher chance of blowing your car up with the stock Stillen setup. If you can't afford to put on the A2A setup up front, you can't afford to fix the damage down the line from not having it.

[Jayhovah]

Originally Posted by Felors

Thanks everyone for your inputs. I am probably going to stick with the stock Stillen Surpercharger but might go with the EcuTek tune. I will add the A2A and idler pulley if I want more power later down the road.


I learned from reading on other forums that the belt slippage occurs when upgrading to the 9lb pulley, right? So with the stock, there should be little to no slippage? I am guess the purpose of the idler pulley y'all recommend was to prevent slippage?

Thanks again

You might keep your Stillen warranty this way, but when the bad design and garbage tune blow your motor up you can be assured Nissan will not be coming to your rescue.

Heed the advice of this forum, if you are going to go FI with the Stillen kit do it properly. Research more on the flaws of this kit and you will be horrified that so many people are running it in the out-of-the-box state.

I honestly don't know why anyone on this forum would run this kit that way, having gotten all the information.

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by Jayhovah

Research more on the flaws of this kit and you will be horrified that so many people are running it in the out-of-the-box state.

I honestly don't know why anyone on this forum would run this kit that way, having gotten all the information.

It's a massively compromised setup out of the box. There are tons of motor failures with it the way they designed it, and I'm genuinely surprised there aren't more.

[TopgunZ]

Also, go with a remote tune from Sebastian at Specialty Z. He is making the best tunes for the kit that will get the car started then will make the best power in the safest manner. Guys praise his tunes and I have never heard of a single complaint.

He somehow got 480whp out of a stillen kit with my A2A kit and zero upgrades. 8psi pulley.

[Felors]

Thanks a lot guys, now y'all are making me 2nd guess myself. Is the Stillen Supercharger kit really that bad? Majority of the forum that is having issues with this kit are the ones that add modifications to it (9lb pulley or trying to achieve higher HP, tune ups). Really haven't found anyone having issue with the stock one. (Must not looked hard enough)

I see majority of the people with GTM chargers (Turbo or Super) replying to this forum. How well would the GTM Supercharger Stage 2 work with my current setup? The GTM is intimidating with the amount of HP is produces and sounds like it would do more damage then the Stillen.

Also TopgunZ, why stick with the Stillen Supercharger? Just curious.

[Chuck33079]

Stillen is that bad. The only part of the kit worth a damn is the blower and bracket. There's lots of stories of people blowing a motor on a stock Stillen kit with their ******** tune. GTM is no more. They are Gamma now. They bought everything from GTM at the bankruptcy garage sale. It's a better designed system than the Stillen kit.