Heat issues going with FI

phunk · 06-15-2013, 09:18 PM

Besides, a radiator swap is quick and easy. Don't take my word for it, just see for yourself if you are ever able to get your water temps to climb. If you experience a climb during in your environment and driving style, swap it then

Infidel · 06-15-2013, 09:24 PM

Definitely just some spirited driving through third gear. Will take a few trips down the quarter but that's it.

roplusbee · 06-16-2013, 01:26 AM

To add to what the others have mentioned, the oil cooler and heat wrap are the more effective cooling measures. As was stated earlier, someone posted that the CSF radiator won't work withe the GTM twin sc kit (I wouldn't know anything about that though).

I too have a 34 row oil cooler (non-thermostatic), a CSF radiator, and a plethora of heat wrap. For the record, I got tuned at UPREV (for the second time) and they added the fan control. I am also in Texas. Last one is the doosie..........I am running the Greddy TT Kit with oil cooled turbos and I don't have any issues with overheating. Take it for what it's worth.

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G37Sam · 06-16-2013, 01:49 AM

If you oil overheats at low speeds and daily driving, then you're better off with an oil cooler fan.

Mr.Squeeze · 06-16-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Over 30,000 miles at 500-600rwhp daily driven including over 100 degree humid days.. My car couldn't agree less. 90% of people will drive their car easier than I drive mine. Without anything inherently causing water temps to climb, there is no reason the car will run hotter. The intercooler in front alone is not enough to overheat the car. So during the 99% of the time you aren't flooring it, there is no chance of overheating. When you do floor it, in a street car, it's very short lived in comparison to a track car where any time not braking is full throttle. Even doing back to back highway pulls I've had no problem. A street car doesn't have the room to stretch its legs to saturate the cooling system before there is a chance for it to shed any climb.

For most people this might apply but for me this didn't. The way I drive my car is hard even on the street and my water temp use to get up there. Also with traffic sometimes with my car my water temp would raise slightly.

phunk · 06-16-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

For most people this might apply but for me this didn't. The way I drive my car is hard even on the street and my water temp use to get up there. Also with traffic sometimes with my car my water temp would raise slightly.

To what extent would it climb, and did it ever get out of control and not come back down easily?

Mr.Squeeze · 06-16-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

To what extent would it climb, and did it ever get out of control and not come back down easily?

In traffic it would'nt be to bad maybe a notch or two over the middle using the factory gauge. Now while out having some fun with some other cars it has gotten to the point of almost over heating. Since I have changed to the CSF radiator I have not had any of these issues, this is something I should have done from the get go with a built engine.

phunk · 06-16-2013, 03:05 PM

That's wild... Never come across anything even close to that in both stop and go traffic and back to back highway pulls. There's no harm done in waiting to see if its needed, the install is pretty quick. I would say it depends on what you're looking at spending. Someone mentioned $2500 for a radiator and fans, that is pretty intense and definitely something I wouldn't consider jumping on. But the Koyo for like $400 I guess I would consider a "why not" mod if you're already spending a ton and some people have issue. But ya, my car doesn't even come close to what you're describing.

Mr.Squeeze · 06-16-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

That's wild... Never come across anything even close to that in both stop and go traffic and back to back highway pulls. There's no harm done in waiting to see if its needed, the install is pretty quick. I would say it depends on what you're looking at spending. Someone mentioned $2500 for a radiator and fans, that is pretty intense and definitely something I wouldn't consider jumping on. But the Koyo for like $400 I guess I would consider a "why not" mod if you're already spending a ton and some people have issue. But ya, my car doesn't even come close to what you're describing.

Now I do agree $2500 for fans and radiator is a pretty hefty price tag and is something I would hesitate to do,and would only do if really necessary.

phunk · 06-16-2013, 03:31 PM

I'm out logging with the Osiris right now to see if there's anything going on that I don't see with the stock gauge. But it's only like 82 maybe today.. Humid tho!

Mr.Squeeze · 06-16-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

I'm out logging with the Osiris right now to see if there's anything going on that I don't see with the stock gauge. But it's only like 82 maybe today.. Humid tho!

Cool Charles

What's the best way to contact you? I just tried sending you a PM but your box is full. I want to talk to you about your twin pump setup I am running.

phunk · 06-16-2013, 04:03 PM

Sorry I keep forgetting to renew my sponsorship which allows like 500 times as many PMs and I never clear them.

roplusbee · 06-16-2013, 05:17 PM

My AC used to trip in stop and go traffic, but after the UPREV fan control mod..............not anymore. Back to back runs on the Dragon were not a problem either. If that isn't spirited driving, I don't know what is. There is no road course within an hour of my location or I would go run 3-5 hot laps and let you know what I am getting. But driving it like I stole it is the way it want's to be driven!

Charles:

I may need to look into your fuel system mods. I randomly loose fuel pressure (not enough to have to shut down) after long road trips or spirited sessions (I am talking hours). Should I email you, call, or shoot a PM?

Mr.Squeeze · 06-16-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Sorry I keep forgetting to renew my sponsorship which allows like 500 times as many PMs and I never clear them.

Just text me at 321-442-6780

Done I sent you one earlier today.

theDreamer · 06-17-2013, 07:42 AM

Two 34 row oil coolers will be overkill.
I agree with others a radiator upgrade might not be needed. I did mine because Texas heat was killing my water temps in the summer & Uprev did not have fan control years ago. Now with fan control, newer fans you probably will not have a problem with the stock radiator.

But the best thing to do anyways is to find a way to monitor your car more detailed then that horrible gauge on the left. Being able to see the actual temp in degrees is huge and will give you a better idea of what is happening with your car.

06-15-2013, 09:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,654 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	Besides, a radiator swap is quick and easy. Don't take my word for it, just see for yourself if you are ever able to get your water temps to climb. If you experience a climb during in your environment and driving style, swap it then __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

06-16-2013, 01:26 AM	#18 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	To add to what the others have mentioned, the oil cooler and heat wrap are the more effective cooling measures. As was stated earlier, someone posted that the CSF radiator won't work withe the GTM twin sc kit (I wouldn't know anything about that though). I too have a 34 row oil cooler (non-thermostatic), a CSF radiator, and a plethora of heat wrap. For the record, I got tuned at UPREV (for the second time) and they added the fan control. I am also in Texas. Last one is the doosie..........I am running the Greddy TT Kit with oil cooled turbos and I don't have any issues with overheating. Take it for what it's worth. Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 4 Beta __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

06-16-2013, 01:49 AM	#19 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 20	If you oil overheats at low speeds and daily driving, then you're better off with an oil cooler fan. __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

06-16-2013, 03:05 PM	#23 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,654 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	That's wild... Never come across anything even close to that in both stop and go traffic and back to back highway pulls. There's no harm done in waiting to see if its needed, the install is pretty quick. I would say it depends on what you're looking at spending. Someone mentioned $2500 for a radiator and fans, that is pretty intense and definitely something I wouldn't consider jumping on. But the Koyo for like $400 I guess I would consider a "why not" mod if you're already spending a ton and some people have issue. But ya, my car doesn't even come close to what you're describing. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

06-16-2013, 03:31 PM	#25 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,654 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	I'm out logging with the Osiris right now to see if there's anything going on that I don't see with the stock gauge. But it's only like 82 maybe today.. Humid tho! __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

06-15-2013, 09:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Infidel Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Central Florida Posts: 457 Drives: 2013 GM 6MT Rep Power: 14	Definitely just some spirited driving through third gear. Will take a few trips down the quarter but that's it.

06-16-2013, 04:03 PM	#27 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,654 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	Sorry I keep forgetting to renew my sponsorship which allows like 500 times as many PMs and I never clear them. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 08-23-2014 at 06:10 PM.

06-16-2013, 05:17 PM	#28 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	My AC used to trip in stop and go traffic, but after the UPREV fan control mod..............not anymore. Back to back runs on the Dragon were not a problem either. If that isn't spirited driving, I don't know what is. There is no road course within an hour of my location or I would go run 3-5 hot laps and let you know what I am getting. But driving it like I stole it is the way it want's to be driven! Charles: I may need to look into your fuel system mods. I randomly loose fuel pressure (not enough to have to shut down) after long road trips or spirited sessions (I am talking hours). Should I email you, call, or shoot a PM? Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

06-17-2013, 07:42 AM	#30 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Two 34 row oil coolers will be overkill. I agree with others a radiator upgrade might not be needed. I did mine because Texas heat was killing my water temps in the summer & Uprev did not have fan control years ago. Now with fan control, newer fans you probably will not have a problem with the stock radiator. But the best thing to do anyways is to find a way to monitor your car more detailed then that horrible gauge on the left. Being able to see the actual temp in degrees is huge and will give you a better idea of what is happening with your car. Mr.Squeeze likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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