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Infidel 06-15-2013 03:28 PM

Heat issues going with FI
 
Got my order in on GTM's new TT and was wondering if it would be better to go with (2) 34 row oil coolers instead of a radiator and a 34 row cooler? Seems every time my oil temp gets near 220 I glance over and the water temp is just fine. A good oil cooler and a good radiator go for about the same price. Space may be a consideration with two oil coolers...I don't know. I live in FL and the heat f-ing sucks. Would I have to pitch the stock oil cooler either way?

hindi1973 06-15-2013 04:11 PM

spal fans, radiator upgrade, And a good oil cooler will do the job. Even if its as hot as where i am 130f weather, i wrote a thread abt it some where. Hope this helps.

SS_Firehawk 06-15-2013 04:24 PM

I'm gonna use your thread for my question...
My CSF radiator doesn't work with the twin supercharged kit. GTM's radiator and fan kit does. I want to run my car hard whenever I want. Is the stock radiator good enough to handle the heat of Las Vegas and the superchargers? I have the oil cooler, just need to know water temps.

Baer383 06-15-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2364814)
My CSF radiator doesn't work with the twin supercharged kit. GTM's radiator and fan kit does. I want to run my car hard whenever I want. Is the stock radiator good enough to handle the heat of Las Vegas and the superchargers? I have the oil cooler, just need to know water temps.

Your CSF radiator with stock fans will work.
GTM radiator and fans are thicker go figure.

SS_Firehawk 06-15-2013 04:33 PM

It doesn't fit with the twin supercharger kit. That's my problem

"Next, the CSF radiator will not work since the water neck is a one piece setup whereas the stock radiator is a two piece setup. That means the water neck on the CSF radiator will interfere with the supercharger on the passenger side. We have a special elbow that replaces the stock elbow to give clearance between the water neck and the supercharger. Since the CSF is a one piece elbow, we can't use our elbow. Also, we use different radiator hoses to clear the supercharger brackets, belts and pulleys so your silicone radiator hoses won't work either."

Baer383 06-15-2013 04:44 PM

You shouldn't have a issue with over heating b/c Uprev has the fan control and you can put the 3 stage fan on any percent you want and at any temp you want,I know you are thinking of the other SW if they have fan control too then you're set.

SS_Firehawk 06-15-2013 04:47 PM

I'm planning on playing with the car at Spring Mountain, LVMS, and some tracks in Cali. I won't just be cruising around. I really need to be 100% because it will run me $2600 with labor for the GTM radiator and SPAL kit, a couple hundred less for the normal fans.

synolimit 06-15-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 2364777)
Got my order in on GTM's new TT and was wondering if it would be better to go with (2) 34 row oil coolers instead of a radiator and a 34 row cooler? Seems every time my oil temp gets near 220 I glance over and the water temp is just fine. A good oil cooler and a good radiator go for about the same price. Space may be a consideration with two oil coolers...I don't know. I live in FL and the heat f-ing sucks. Would I have to pitch the stock oil cooler either way?

You don't have to ditch the stock cooler. Others have paired it up with an aftermarket sandwich plate. One thing I suggest since I don't see everyone doing it or talking about it is heat wrap everything! The down pipes, mid pipe, IC pipes etc. they all need to have the heat kept in or out to keep temps down. I'd think a 34 cooler would be fine.

SPOHN 06-15-2013 07:08 PM

For what purpose will you be using the car besides just being in FL? If that's it I'd get a radiator and one oil cooler. Remember the new oil pan for this kit is 3qts bigger.

Infidel 06-15-2013 07:32 PM

It gonna be a DD

phunk 06-15-2013 08:20 PM

Don't bother with a radiator on a street only car, you'll never see a difference other than your bank account.

Baer383 06-15-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 2365019)
Don't bother with a radiator on a street only car, you'll never see a difference other than your bank account.

Going from a 15mm core (stock) to a 30mm (CSF) I think it is a safe buy especially when you live in places like Texas,Georgia,California well you get the point.

SS_Firehawk 06-15-2013 08:39 PM

Disregard my question, I upgraded my cooling system. To the OP, at the most, a CSF and 34 row... At the very least? Get yourself a 34 row oil cooler and turn those fans on early. The GTM radiator is overkill if you aren't going to drive it hard.

phunk 06-15-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2365040)
Going from a 15mm core (stock) to a 30mm (CSF) I think it is a safe buy especially when you live in places like Texas,Georgia,California well you get the point.

Over 30,000 miles at 500-600rwhp daily driven including over 100 degree humid days.. My car couldn't agree less. 90% of people will drive their car easier than I drive mine. Without anything inherently causing water temps to climb, there is no reason the car will run hotter. The intercooler in front alone is not enough to overheat the car. So during the 99% of the time you aren't flooring it, there is no chance of overheating. When you do floor it, in a street car, it's very short lived in comparison to a track car where any time not braking is full throttle. Even doing back to back highway pulls I've had no problem. A street car doesn't have the room to stretch its legs to saturate the cooling system before there is a chance for it to shed any climb.

Mr&Mrs 06-15-2013 09:16 PM

I tried to post this earlier but my browser crashed (at work).

I live in Tampa, the only problems I have ever had with heat is the A/c blowing warm in 90+ degrees in bumper to bumper traffic. I do not drive the car hard but do floor it from time to time. You cant get to silly with this much power on the street or your asking for trouble in its various forms.

I only have a 34 row oil cooler and I have never seen over 230 temps. Actually in 70 or below weather I have trouble even getting the car up to operating temps. I have to drive a gear lower than I should be to keep the car wound up a little more creating more heat.

I do not want to add in a chance for more leaks with a thermostat and have been to lazy to make a block off plate, but you will need one here when its chilly/cold out.


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