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Mike@GTM 04-11-2013 05:40 PM

We're getting ever closer to Tier 3 pricing! Here's the updated list with 37 people signed up thus far:

Group Buy List (Tier 2 pricing)

1) showme99
2) Jordan11b
3) Mr. Q
4) mikey1600
5) blackonorange
6) Chemy
7) BeemaaZ
8) future370zzz
9) Btalont
10) Fearless_Z
11) Z370Z011
12) IPL 370GT
13) Akmcmahon
14) ZtoG37
15) djmac
16) Spiderrsx23 (myG37)
17) tower74
18) puckshaw
19) Infiniti370z
20) Alstann
21) Morterbooble
22) PureNick (myG37)
23) Neo187H
24) E_mares
25) Black Betty (myG37)
26) awightguy (myG37)
27) keng714
28) infamousstunna1 (myG37)
29) harbin9er (myG37)
30) nemesisG37s (myG37)
31) qnguyen018
32) justboughtaz
33) MX52Z
34) lilvi3tboyzz
35) 370zrider
36) 09nismo498
37) indyn
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48)
49)
50)

elperuano 04-11-2013 06:10 PM

Didnt even think there was that many members on this forum! Everyone and their mother is gonna be boosted soon!

tower74 04-11-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2262575)
Didnt even think there was that many members on this forum! Everyone and their mother is gonna be boosted soon!

The question is, Who will be the first to try and push to much boost and pop their engine:stirthepot:

MX52Z 04-11-2013 06:39 PM

I just put my mother on the list.

Dzel 04-11-2013 07:34 PM

Can you send a list of supplies and tools needed for this install? An install manual for this kit would be awsome too.

tower74 04-11-2013 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2262691)
Can you send a list of supplies and tools needed for this install? An install manual for this kit would be awsome too.

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/Manuals...structions.pdf


Seems simple enough....noticed how I said seems....:tup:

Mike@GTM 04-11-2013 08:04 PM

Just so you know, a lot of the things needed for the Garrett based kit won't be needed for the MHI kit. For example, you won't need a drill with a 90 degree chuck to drill the oil pan since the MHI kit comes with a new oil pan with built in returns. ;)

Mike@GTM 04-11-2013 08:04 PM

Good news everybody!

By popular request, we are offering a third option to our financing programs. We are proud to introduce our layaway plan so people have another way to purchase our products. This will be a third option for people that want to pay for the kit over the course of a year without paying any interest.

The biggest advantage of this offering is the ability to lock in the group buy price with the layaway plan. Even though you can pay off the kit over the course of a year, it will be for the group buy price as opposed to full retail.

So, let’s say that we reach Tier 3 pricing, you will need to put 30% down to lock in the price and may take up to a year to pay off the kit.

tower74 04-11-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2262728)
Good news everybody!

By popular request, we are offering a third option to our financing programs. We are proud to introduce our layaway plan so people have another way to purchase our products. This will be a third option for people that want to pay for the kit over the course of a year without paying any interest.

The biggest advantage of this offering is the ability to lock in the group buy price with the layaway plan. Even though you can pay off the kit over the course of a year, it will be for the group buy price as opposed to full retail.

So, let’s say that we reach Tier 3 pricing, you will need to put 30% down to lock in the price and may take up to a year to pay off the kit.

OK, with this announcement you will have to have tier 4 because this list will hit 51 by the weekend with this option. :tup:

Baer383 04-11-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2262731)
OK, with this announcement you will have to have tier 4 because this list will hit 51 by the weekend with this option. :tup:

If that list hits 51 you won't get your kit till Christmas.:icon17:

Mike@GTM 04-11-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2262743)
If that list hits 51 you won't get your kit till Christmas.:icon17:

Not at all. We are already anticipating a large volume of these kits and we have been planning for this for over a year. We have a few systems in place that will ensure that we are fully prepared for the tsunami of turbo kit sales. We wouldn't have opened up a group buy if we weren't prepared to handle it.

Baer383 04-11-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2262759)
Not at all. We are already anticipating a large volume of these kits and we have been planning for this for over a year. We have a few systems in place that will ensure that we are fully prepared for the tsunami of turbo kit sales. We wouldn't have opened up a group buy if we weren't prepared to handle it.

I'm only teasing Mike.:hello:

SS_Firehawk 04-11-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2262743)
If that list hits 51 you won't get your kit till Christmas.:icon17:

ROFL. I'm hoping I don't have to wait till Christmas for mine :rofl2: Hopefully it will be more like Christmas in July.

Baer383 04-11-2013 08:48 PM

All I want is the 84mm pulley for my SC 1.5 kit.:tup:

Dzel 04-11-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2262727)
Just so you know, a lot of the things needed for the Garrett based kit won't be needed for the MHI kit. For example, you won't need a drill with a 90 degree chuck to drill the oil pan since the MHI kit comes with a new oil pan with built in returns. ;)

If you can get these to us to show how easy the install would be I'm sure it would persuade some people.

blackonorange 04-11-2013 10:07 PM

I'd love a release date.....

tower74 04-11-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2262727)
Just so you know, a lot of the things needed for the Garrett based kit won't be needed for the MHI kit. For example, you won't need a drill with a 90 degree chuck to drill the oil pan since the MHI kit comes with a new oil pan with built in returns. ;)

So that part of the manual we can skip...the drilling of the oil pan that is.

tower74 04-11-2013 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2262399)
With Racelogic I hope :ughdance:

In the future.....it will be needed for sure.

Dzel 04-11-2013 10:45 PM

Also it was stated that you will not need to drop the motor.

Nixlimited 04-12-2013 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2262759)
Not at all. We are already anticipating a large volume of these kits and we have been planning for this for over a year. We have a few systems in place that will ensure that we are fully prepared for the tsunami of turbo kit sales. We wouldn't have opened up a group buy if we weren't prepared to handle it.

There go my dreams of having a unique build :tup:

BlkNismo 04-12-2013 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2263116)
There go my dreams of having a unique build :tup:

Still very much so unique.

Aprox 10,000 Z,s sold each year, say 50 mhi tt kits, thats less then .01% that are tt. still very rare.

Jordan11b 04-12-2013 08:47 AM

I vote for tier 4 pricing

BlkNismo 04-12-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan11b (Post 2263351)
I vote for tier 4 pricing

^^^Yes, Im sure 76 people is possible.

Sh0velMan 04-12-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkNismo (Post 2263181)
Still very much so unique.

Aprox 10,000 Z,s sold each year, say 50 mhi tt kits, thats less then .01% that are tt. still very rare.

They're selling between 3 and 4 thousand a year bro, at least back in 09-11. Not sure they're still selling that many.

In 2012 there was estimated to be just over 10000 cars TOTAL.

Car is still pretty rare, in the grand scheme of things.

COSMO 04-12-2013 12:27 PM

Still cant wait to see what the next gen will look like along with displacement... Where I rarely see too many other 370z's....

de_dust 04-12-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmogirl (Post 2263888)
Still cant wait to see what the next gen will look like along with displacement... Where I rarely see too many other 370z's....

if let's say nissan simply adopted this kit and everything is left the same for the 370z for their next gen... would you be disappointed?

This is what so impressive about how GTM has approached this FI offering.. it simply could have came from factory imo... I would definitely buy it over the toyobarus, stangs, and whatever sub $40K sportscar that are coming out the next year or so...

370zrider 04-12-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by de_dust (Post 2264009)
if let's say nissan simply adopted this kit and everything is left the same for the 370z for their next gen... would you be disappointed?

This is what so impressive about how GTM has approached this FI offering.. it simply could have came from factory imo... I would definitely buy it over the toyobarus, stangs, and whatever sub $40K sportscar that are coming out the next year or so...


I don't think Nissan is interested in turbocharging the 370z. That would mean additional costs in equipment and trying to keep the engine cool, which is something they barely did with USA spec cars (mexican market 370z don't come with oil cooler).

If Nissan had left this subject to Nismo, I think their price would be somewhere in heaven as their aftermarket parts are.

Nissan simply stayed away from this business since the 350z.
It would be nice to discuss this in a specific thread.

Thanks GTM for bringing us a solution :tup:

Mike@GTM 04-12-2013 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2262951)
So that part of the manual we can skip...the drilling of the oil pan that is.

Correct. No drilling of the pan required with the MHI kit since it comes with its' own pan that has integrated oil returns. ;)

Mike@GTM 04-12-2013 07:55 PM

Getting closer to Tier 3!

1) showme99
2) Jordan11b
3) Mr. Q
4) mikey1600
5) blackonorange
6) Chemy
7) BeemaaZ
8) future370zzz
9) Btalont
10) Fearless_Z
11) Z370Z011
12) IPL 370GT
13) Akmcmahon
14) ZtoG37
15) djmac
16) Spiderrsx23 (myG37)
17) tower74
18) puckshaw
19) Infiniti370z
20) Alstann
21) Morterbooble
22) PureNick (myG37)
23) Neo187H
24) E_mares
25) Black Betty (myG37)
26) awightguy (myG37)
27) keng714
28) infamousstunna1 (myG37)
29) harbin9er (myG37)
30) nemesisG37s (myG37)
31) qnguyen018
32) justboughtaz
33) MX52Z
34) lilvi3tboyzz
35) 370zrider
36) 09nismo498
37) indyn
38) aBT
39) vo370z
40) "D"
41) cinfuax (myG37)
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49)
50)

showme99 04-15-2013 07:48 PM

GTM Visit
 
I stopped by GTM today to get a tour of their facility and find out more about their new MHI turbo kit. Sam showed me the equipment they use for the in-house fabrication all of their various parts. He also popped the hood on their demo car (the 370z with the 18g kit installed on it) so that I could see the kit up close. He answered all the questions that I had regarding the MHI kit.

Sam then offered me a ride in the demo car. All I can say is...wow! That car is a beast! It drives just like a normal car at low rpms, but when you really get on the gas, it's a whole different story. The car slams you back into your seat and just takes off. Don't get me wrong; the car was never rough or jerky. Even though the kit throws you back into your seat, the power delivery is still very smooth and precise. I was also surprised by the responsiveness of this kit. There was very little, if any, turbo lag. Needless to say, I was thoroughly impressed.

Thank you Sam and Mike for taking time out of your day to answer my questions and showcase your new turbo kit. I'm excited to be on the Group Buy and I'm definitely looking forward to having one of these kits installed on my car.

MX52Z 04-15-2013 08:16 PM

You're not making it any easier for me. ;)

Mike@GTM 04-15-2013 08:18 PM

Almost at TIER 3 pricing!

1) showme99
2) Jordan11b
3) Mr. Q
4) mikey1600
5) blackonorange
6) Chemy
7) BeemaaZ
8) future370zzz
9) Btalont
10) Fearless_Z
11) Z370Z011
12) IPL 370GT
13) Akmcmahon
14) ZtoG37
15) djmac
16) Spiderrsx23 (myG37)
17) tower74
18) puckshaw
19) Infiniti370z
20) Alstann
21) Morterbooble
22) PureNick (myG37)
23) Neo187H
24) E_mares
25) Black Betty (myG37)
26) awightguy (myG37)
27) keng714
28) infamousstunna1 (myG37)
29) harbin9er (myG37)
30) nemesisG37s (myG37)
31) qnguyen018
32) justboughtaz
33) MX52Z
34) lilvi3tboyzz
35) 370zrider
36) 09nismo498
37) indyn
38) aBT
39) vo370z
40) "D"
41) cinfuax (myG37)
42) "Doug" (myG37)
43) jenko
44) dvt (myG37)
45) "S"
46) dimsler
47) khanhvu411
48)
49)
50)

cdoxp800 04-15-2013 08:21 PM

OMG.. I am going to go broke soon...

Master_Ly 04-15-2013 08:41 PM

I didn't see these questions get asked in this thread and if it was, I'm sorry in advance for missing it...

* Does this kit require any type of welding? Once I had a GReddy turbo kit on a different car and I had to get the BOV mount TIG welded to the pipe. Not a big deal, just curious.

* Is it possible to see the install documents? I like to get a better understanding of what I'm getting into with your kit before committing. Based on your other install guides, I'm very impressed; it's in color! I'm not used to that, haha.

* Since this is water-cooled, how does it source, tapping into the radiator piping? I like the provided oil pan with it integrated so that's great if I read that correctly. I think that's more reliable than the adapter kind that's 'piggy-backing' the oil drain bolt.

* I've never dealt with a water/oil cooled turbo. What's the life expectancy of these turbo seals compared to the standard oil cooled ones?

* Are there any other factory hosing or wiring that I need to be concerned about post installation from being too close to the hot side of the turbo housings and piping? I tend to wrap any in heat reflectors so I'm just checking!

* Are the BOVs negotiable in type even if paying the difference? It might be weird to some but I'm particular about the sound, chirping, or whatever. I don't like attracting attention.

* Is the oil cooler you sell (Item # GTM-00115-03-19M) fully compatible to this kit?

Thanks in advance!

Hotrodz 04-15-2013 09:13 PM

Okay yal, I just sent my info to Mike. We are going to be one spot closer to tier three. You only live once so...live large and let the big dog eat....

tower74 04-15-2013 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master_Ly (Post 2268542)
I didn't see these questions get asked in this thread and if it was, I'm sorry in advance for missing it...

* Does this kit require any type of welding? Once I had a GReddy turbo kit on a different car and I had to get the BOV mount TIG welded to the pipe. Not a big deal, just curious.

* Is it possible to see the install documents? I like to get a better understanding of what I'm getting into with your kit before committing. Based on your other install guides, I'm very impressed; it's in color! I'm not used to that, haha.

* Since this is water-cooled, how does it source, tapping into the radiator piping? I like the provided oil pan with it integrated so that's great if I read that correctly. I think that's more reliable than the adapter kind that's 'piggy-backing' the oil drain bolt.

* I've never dealt with a water/oil cooled turbo. What's the life expectancy of these turbo seals compared to the standard oil cooled ones?

* Are there any other factory hosing or wiring that I need to be concerned about post installation from being too close to the hot side of the turbo housings and piping? I tend to wrap any in heat reflectors so I'm just checking!

* Are the BOVs negotiable in type even if paying the difference? It might be weird to some but I'm particular about the sound, chirping, or whatever. I don't like attracting attention.

* Is the oil cooler you sell (Item # GTM-00115-03-19M) fully compatible to this kit?

Thanks in advance!

OK. Here is the install manual http://www.gtmotorsports.com/Manuals...structions.pdf
you will not have to tap the oil pan so ignore that part.
No welding etc. Just go through the install manual and you should get a good idea.
You will need to buy and oil cooler and plugs. You also have the options of an internal or external waste gates. Go through some of the earlier posts. This should get you at least started.

tower74 04-15-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdoxp800 (Post 2268509)
OMG.. I am going to go broke soon...

but you and your car will be very happy!!!:driving:

Dzel 04-15-2013 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by showme99 (Post 2268440)
I stopped by GTM today to get a tour of their facility and find out more about their new MHI turbo kit. Sam showed me the equipment they use for the in-house fabrication all of their various parts. He also popped the hood on their demo car (the 370z with the 18g kit installed on it) so that I could see the kit up close. He answered all the questions that I had regarding the MHI kit.

Sam then offered me a ride in the demo car. All I can say is...wow! That car is a beast! It drives just like a normal car at low rpms, but when you really get on the gas, it's a whole different story. The car slams you back into your seat and just takes off. Don't get me wrong; the car was never rough or jerky. Even though the kit throws you back into your seat, the power delivery is still very smooth and precise. I was also surprised by the responsiveness of this kit. There was very little, if any, turbo lag. Needless to say, I was thoroughly impressed.

Thank you Sam and Mike for taking time out of your day to answer my questions and showcase your new turbo kit. I'm excited to be on the Group Buy and I'm definitely looking forward to having one of these kits installed on my car.

What was the level of difficulty to install the kit from what you saw?

showme99 04-16-2013 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2268744)
What was the level of difficulty to install the kit from what you saw?

Since I wasn't there for the install, I really can't comment on how difficult it was. I've never installed a turbo kit and I don't plan to start now; I'll let GTM handle my install. I know that GTM has posted a copy of the install instructions for their Garrett kit earlier on (either in this thread or the group buy thread). Even though it is for one of their earlier kits, it should give you a rough idea of what is entailed for a turbo install. Just bear in mind that unlike the Garrett kit, the MHI kit doesn't require drilling/tapping into the engine block since it provides a pre-tapped oil pan spacer.

As far as what I saw, once the car has been put back together post-install, many of the kit's components are hidden from view. All you really see are portions of the piping. If you opted for the black powdercoated piping, this would be a pretty stealthy install. To get an idea of where some of the components are mounted, check out the pictures that GTM posted at the beginning of both this thread and the "TD05 16g test results" thread.

Dzel 04-16-2013 12:48 AM

Yeah I've seen them I'm just trying to get a better picture for a DIY


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