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V1H 01-01-2014 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2631291)
I can't even remember what I ordered lol. 18g? Lol at this point it's moot.

I take that as a 'NO'.
The group buy list counts over 100 entries. Did nobody ever see their order?
What went wrong between page 1 and 157 of this thread that the sale stagnated, or, never saw the light of day?

*scratching head*

Chuck33079 01-01-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by V1H (Post 2632680)
I take that as a 'NO'.

The group buy list counts over 100 entries. Did nobody ever see their order?

What went wrong between page 1 and 157 of this thread that the sale stagnated, or, never saw the light of day?



*scratching head*


Not a single kit has shipped yet. You've got a lot of reading to do. Just read the posts from GTM. The rest of the thread is just people bitching about stuff. :rofl2:

GTM wildly overestimated their ability to handle something this big, took a bunch of money from people and are currently throwing their suppliers under the bus for the delays.

V1H 01-01-2014 12:15 PM

ouch.. that's real sad.
And with the Greddy TwinTurbo Kit virtually impossible to get hold of as well, my dreams for a nice TT kit for stock motor are shattered. :shakes head:
I don't need/don't want over the top Fast Intentions.

puckshaw 01-01-2014 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by V1H (Post 2632901)
ouch.. that's real sad.

And with the Greddy TwinTurbo Kit virtually impossible to get hold of as well, my dreams for a nice TT kit for stock motor are shattered. :shakes head:

I don't need/don't want over the top Fast Intentions.


Take a look at the boosted performance kit ;)

Cbtech 01-01-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by puckshaw (Post 2632903)
Take a look at the boosted performance kit ;)

Gorgeous kit but after shipping and exchange fees you're looking at over 7k for that kit

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DEpointfive0 01-01-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2632937)
Gorgeous kit but after shipping and exchange fees you're looking at over 7k for that kit

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Still a pretty good deal. And you can get away without paying tax.
You save a lot with the install with the BP kit

puckshaw 01-01-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2632937)
Gorgeous kit but after shipping and exchange fees you're looking at over 7k for that kit

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You still have to pay shipping and credit card fees for the MHI kit. Plus you'll need to buy an oil cooler which the BP kit includes. I didn't spend much more for the BP kit when it was all said and done. Plus the BP kit is available now. Oh and you can't put a price on the excellent customer service from Sasha. More than makes up for the price difference.

Did I mention I still haven't got a refund from GTM? It's been over 6 weeks.

MMC Racing 01-01-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by puckshaw (Post 2632958)
Did I mention I still haven't got a refund from GTM? It's been over 6 weeks.

:eek:

Mkai0 01-01-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by puckshaw (Post 2632958)
You still have to pay shipping and credit card fees for the MHI kit. Plus you'll need to buy an oil cooler which the BP kit includes. I didn't spend much more for the BP kit when it was all said and done. Plus the BP kit is available now. Oh and you can't put a price on the excellent customer service from Sasha. More than makes up for the price difference.

Did I mention I still haven't got a refund from GTM? It's been over 6 weeks.

Day 20 for me. Hoping to get my full refund by Monday of next week!

Alkatraz 01-01-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by V1H (Post 2632901)
ouch.. that's real sad.
And with the Greddy TwinTurbo Kit virtually impossible to get hold of as well, my dreams for a nice TT kit for stock motor are shattered. :shakes head:
I don't need/don't want over the top Fast Intentions.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong but the GTM kit is the only one that is tested and guaranteed to fit RHD, so its really your only option V1H. Basically if you want TT's then you probably need to join the queue for this kit with the rest of us. The good news being that you will have skipped the 6+ month delay that the rest of us have endured. That being said, we still have no concrete timeframe from GTM for when these will start shipping :confused:

The group buy on this kit is now closed but you could possibly find someone who is dropping out and take over their place. Im not sure how this would work with shipping to the UK though. This might solve two problems 1) you could get in on the group buy price and 2) the other member actually manages to get their money back without so much screwing around.

Alkatraz 01-01-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by puckshaw (Post 2632958)
Did I mention I still haven't got a refund from GTM? It's been over 6 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Mkai0 (Post 2633085)
Day 20 for me. Hoping to get my full refund by Monday of next week!

:eek:

Alkatraz 01-01-2014 05:59 PM

On a slightly different note. A mate took me for laps in his drift car at a practise session earlier this week. If I don't hear anything decent from GTM by Super Bowl Sunday then I will be strongly considering cancelling my order, getting my money back and buying a drift car to start learning in. $10k is more than enough to buy an S13 Silvia to start out in.

There is actually an S13 with a full RB25 and GT2635R conversion for sale here locally. It would be overkill for a complete novice but still awesome to learn in.

Decisions.....decisions.......

Dzel 01-01-2014 06:46 PM

20 days! Wow hopefully you will not have to get any creditors or lawyers involved that's a lot of money. That needed to be refunded asap even with all the ropes you have to jump through with the banks and what not 20 days and counting is outrages.

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Diabel 01-01-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alkatraz (Post 2633166)
then I will be strongly considering cancelling my order, getting my money back

If even our australian "sheep" makes such threats towards GTM - it's just got serious ;)

elperuano 01-01-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alkatraz (Post 2633166)
On a slightly different note. A mate took me for laps in his drift car at a practise session earlier this week. If I don't hear anything decent from GTM by Super Bowl Sunday then I will be strongly considering cancelling my order, getting my money back and buying a drift car to start learning in. $10k is more than enough to buy an S13 Silvia to start out in.

There is actually an S13 with a full RB25 and GT2635R conversion for sale here locally. It would be overkill for a complete novice but still awesome to learn in.

Decisions.....decisions.......

**** just got real. First Spohn now the Aussie. Good luck guys!

V1H 01-02-2014 03:19 AM

Thx very much guys for the insight.
A statement from Sam/Mike would be helpful as to whether there is still hope for the MHI kit or not. I wouldn't mind waiting as I still have a little saving up to do ;-)

But obviously, if there was no hope for GTM I'd be looking for alternatives (for RHD that is)

...Actually thx for pointing that out m8, I wasn't aware there'd be a difference btw LHD & RHD.

Cheers

Alkatraz 01-02-2014 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by V1H (Post 2633512)
Thx very much guys for the insight.
A statement from Sam/Mike would be helpful as to whether there is still hope for the MHI kit or not. I wouldn't mind waiting as I still have a little saving up to do ;-)

But obviously, if there was no hope for GTM I'd be looking for alternatives (for RHD that is)

...Actually thx for pointing that out m8, I wasn't aware there'd be a difference btw LHD & RHD.

Cheers

It will come out eventually, i dont think that anyone is really questioning that. The delay isnt really even that rediculous yet its just that GTM's communication is sorely lacking which opens them up to all sorts of attacks whether accurate or not. I've waited way longer for cars parts in the past after being told that they wouldnt take long so its not something unexpected to those who have been down these roads before. **** happens, its how you deal with it that matters and ynfortunately GTM havent dealt with it very well at all which is a real shame.

GTM are the only ones that I could find that have supplied bolt on kits for RHD vehicles and can guarantee that they will fit. Its a shame that the other kit developers arent big enough (yet?) to take on the extra costs of testing for RHD's. They might find that the required changes to their kits are very minimal, who knows. I wouldnt want to be the guinea pig thousands of miles away though :P

You could always take a chance and get a local shop to make any required modifications but that could lead to all sorts of issues down the track i guess.

V1H 01-02-2014 04:56 AM

Ah well, that sounds all right then. I definitely stay tuned and watch out for the MHI :tiphat:

Best wishes

Nixlimited 01-02-2014 10:43 AM

I think a lot of vendors are guilty of posting "release" or similar threads well before the products are actually ready. Perhaps the moderators could develop some rules for forum sponsors so as to not unintentionally mislead folks. In my opinion, there should be no "release" thread until a product is on the shelf and ready to be sold. For example, this thread is really more of a "development" thread and/or group buy pre-sale thread. Just look at how much has changed since post #1. I think this may also help to set expectation levels for all the eager gear heads running around here.

BlkNismo 01-02-2014 01:43 PM

16 days since last update...what's the current status on the delayed parts?

m3chhawk 01-02-2014 01:48 PM

Sam logged in to the boards on the 30th and didn't give a status update, so that effectively is your status update...

Mkai0 01-02-2014 04:25 PM

Yes, it has been a bit of a headache, Especially with the wife not being too happy about it...

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2633203)
20 days! Wow hopefully you will not have to get any creditors or lawyers involved that's a lot of money. That needed to be refunded asap even with all the ropes you have to jump through with the banks and what not 20 days and counting is outrages.

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ZeeRedZ 01-03-2014 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2633854)
I think a lot of vendors are guilty of posting "release" or similar threads well before the products are actually ready. Perhaps the moderators could develop some rules for forum sponsors so as to not unintentionally mislead folks. In my opinion, there should be no "release" thread until a product is on the shelf and ready to be sold. For example, this thread is really more of a "development" thread and/or group buy pre-sale thread. Just look at how much has changed since post #1. I think this may also help to set expectation levels for all the eager gear heads running around here.

You make some very good points and suggestions which I agree with as I have seen this strategy used by many vendors. I think many vendors use this pre-release strategy with a group buy to generate a source of income to continue doing research on a future marketing program such as was done here. It is clear from the many posts that GTM is continuing its research program which may or may not be in the final stages of development. I was very interested in this project but took a wait and see position and am glad I did.

conmam 01-04-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeRedZ (Post 2635321)
You make some very good points and suggestions which I agree with as I have seen this strategy used by many vendors. I think many vendors use this pre-release strategy with a group buy to generate a source of income to continue doing research on a future marketing program such as was done here. It is clear from the many posts that GTM is continuing its research program which may or may not be in the final stages of development. I was very interested in this project but took a wait and see position and am glad I did.


Yes. This might be very true. Overall, I hope when the product is in the final release stage, it should be rock solid and the vehicle will run like factory made twin turbo with no trouble. I know it is very annoying to have to wait this long, but in a sense it is worth it to me. I hope this MHI TT product will be a real good and a reliable product by the time it comes to our hands for those who are still willing to wait.

Mkai0 01-04-2014 03:28 PM

Conmam,

Have you fully paid for your TT MHI kit?

m3chhawk 01-04-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 2620428)
Don't order the GTM kit. I can't find the link right now, but they just use another relay kit that is $35-$40 retail, add a fuse holder, and sell it for $70.

I am going to buy the stuff to do the relay today and will do a DIY write-up for it in the next couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 2620483)
Sounds good! keep us posted :)

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2620498)
Noice!

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Originally Posted by BlkNismo (Post 2623066)
Awesome! thanks

Enjoy!
http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ml#post2637416

khanhvu411 01-04-2014 06:29 PM

I agree GTM made very good parts, but their customer service is the worst. I tried to call and email about some parts I needed and the only response I got was "send us an email of parts you need and we will send you an inquiry for them". So, i sent them the list of parts I need with gtm's part numbers TWICE for the last 3 weeks and have not get anything in response yet. :shakes head: At this point, there is no doubt I will not buy amything from GTM even they manage to get these turbo kit ship out. Just thinking about all the additional parts, questions, e-tunes... I will need from GTM during the installation of these kit give me a BAD headache. :eekdance:

conmam 01-05-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mkai0 (Post 2637240)
Conmam,

Have you fully paid for your TT MHI kit?


No I have not. I am still building up my savings for this kit. I addition to that, there are SO MANY other things that need to be properly modified in order to reliably accommodate this future 500whp on my Z. Believe me, those costs are at least the same or more than this kit. Got to work hard for this my friend.

Mkai0 01-05-2014 03:25 PM

Believe me, I know what you mean. I jumped the gun bought all supporting mods, pistons, rods, etc, and paid for the kit in full. Six months later the kit still wasn't ready, and I had a family emergency to deal with, so my plans changed. Learn from some of us and actually wait until this kit is out before you start dropping some serious dough on it. As I'm sure you know, a few people who were in this group buy got fed up and even bought new cars! The more you invest and longer you wait, the more you get pissed off. Funny how that works..

Dzel 01-05-2014 10:01 PM

Ditto

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Alstann 01-05-2014 10:33 PM

Im still fully in, waiting patiently. I really do have lots of faith that this will be a great turbo kit, but every week I swing closer to ringing them up and cancelling. I have the funds, abd I want to be turbo'd.

LIL_G13 01-05-2014 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2638784)
Im still fully in, waiting patiently. I really do have lots of faith that this will be a great turbo kit, but every week I swing closer to ringing them up and cancelling. I have the funds, abd I want to be turbo'd.

Last week was the last week for me. I am out now just have to wait for the refund.

Dzel 01-06-2014 11:34 AM

Did you pay in full? I received mine in I want to say a week and a half but others have been waiting almost a month

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LIL_G13 01-06-2014 12:04 PM

Yes, paid in full

BlkNismo 01-06-2014 12:38 PM

Ever since I bought the Z in 2011 I had plans to go forced induction.
My end goal was to have install/tune done by March 2014. I slowly picked up all the supporting mods through out year 2012 and early 2013 (nice parts pile accumulating in multple closets)
I purchased the gtm kit July 2013. If it gets delivered my March then everything will be right on schedule.

V1H 01-06-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by conmam (Post 2638298)

No I have not. I am still building up my savings for this kit. I addition to that, there are SO MANY other things that need to be properly modified in order to reliably accommodate this future 500whp on my Z. Believe me, those costs are at least the same or more than this kit. Got to work hard for this my friend.

can u share your list of mods you plan to do?
I'm still in the process of figuring waht's essential to support this kit (more specifically the due MHI kit).
As far as I understood it lacks an oil cooler but ought to be safe for a stock Z?
Cheers

BlkNismo 01-06-2014 02:35 PM

^for starters

32 Row Oil Cooler
Clutch/flywheel/csc
1 step colder spark plugs
Intake plenum gasket
exhaust manifolds gasket
misc fluids
Electronic Boost Controller
downpipes/test pipes
catback
Gauges
Bigger Radiator

V1H 01-06-2014 03:40 PM

Ah yes sure, common sense, even to me :p Thx m8

The choice of exhaust is still my greatest cause for headache.
Naturally I'd want a 3" catback to maximize turbo efficiency, which I only know the Greddy Turbo Ti-C has. But I don't like its sound. In fact, I haven't yet found a single Z exhaust with the right noise. I've been heavily pampered by ferocious VTEC screams of my nitrous battered Stage2 3/4 Race motor and look for a good race noise for my Z. But working on a £3k Honda is a different matter. I wanna leave my Z engine untouched. And test pipes are no option towards that goal. I got to be able to pass M.O.T. of course.

Cell 01-06-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by V1H (Post 2639603)
Ah yes sure, common sense, even to me :p Thx m8

The choice of exhaust is still my greatest cause for headache.
Naturally I'd want a 3" catback to maximize turbo efficiency, which I only know the Greddy Ti-C has. But I don't like its sound. In fact, I haven't yet found a single Z exhaust with the right noise. I've been heavily pampered by ferocious VTEC screams and look for real race noise for my Z. But, test pipes are no option towards that goal I got to be able to pass M.O.T. of course.

I believe the Greddy TI-C is 2.75".

Fast intentions makes a 3" exhaust setup.

BlkNismo 01-06-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 2639646)
I believe the Greddy TI-C is 2.75".

Fast intentions makes a 3" exhaust setup.

That is accurate.

I tossed around the idea of running full 3" turbo back, but it being my primary car, i dont think i want all the noise associated. was very close to pulling the trigger on the fast intentions exhaust.

I have since sold the gtm downpipes and have the z1 testpipes and will run oem nismo catback.

Should be sufficient. Dont plan on running more then 7psi with stg 1 gt28's on stock block.


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