GTM Performance Engineering: MHI Twin Turbo Official Release

m3chhawk

Trips, out of curiosity, is there anything the forum can do to "convince" GTM into posting more frequent updates? Maybe an email from you guys?

I think I speak for everyone when I say more frequent communication would be much appreciated by the community (even those not involved with this particular group buy). Especially given that such a large portion of this group buy was organized through this forum.

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Trips

For the first part Im indeed going to contact GTM so they can try to be a little more responsive to updates.

I can only say that folks need to have more patience as obviously there are delays beyond GTM's control from what Im seeing.

I know thats not helping But that how it is in this situation.

From what I have seen custom work sometimes needs EXTRA patience.

I know the rewards will be defiantly BIG once they start rolling this kits to all that have been patiently waiting.

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SPOHN

The forum is a middle man. I kept in direct contact with GTM through out my time. Everyone has a different agenda. As much as I wanted to go FI I got back to my sences and realized that NA would be the ultimate realibility in a track car. Plus there was some more personal issues. But IMO guys man up and get stern with GTM. Course that's not really going to help cause GTM really does have there hands tied waiting on the sourced out parts. Hard to give updated when they have no new updates there selves. If your not on a crunch timeframe I'd just wait. Most of you guys are still driving your cars. Mine hasn't been started up in 8 months. And I love my car. It's my life. But just hang in there guys. I know it's hard but do it. Can't wait to see this kit on you guys cars.

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Diabel

Spohn, I think it is not about the patience here, it's about the way of GTM's communication. As a company you can not be such disrespectful to your online clients if you choose this forum as one of your sales channel.

Dzel

Very well said Spohn

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Dzel

Yup. This is why I asked for everyone "that paid in full" to think of how many of us had paid. Now add that all up and tell me you guys wouldn't demand some kind of communication with that much money out there.

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lww

For those of you who haven't been involved in turning custom one off fabrication into production assembly line work, this should be a lesson. This is not a trivial exercise and unfortunately, it's not unusual when dealing with as many third party suppliers as GTM has on this project.

Yes, their communication could be better but this is not a cheap arena to play in nor one where you can expect instant gratification.

I guarantee nobody on here has been without their car over this project longer than me since mine is the one they've been doing the prototyping on for the last 2 years!

I empathize with everyone that committed early. The result will be worth it. But if you can't afford the money or time to play with big boys, don't slide up to the table.

And remember, there's a 4 cyl "BRZ" fighting Z coming out in late 2014 for anyone who would rather "upgrade"...

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m3chhawk

You are missing the point. The other two primary vendors went through delays as well. Some of the delays were for the exact same reason (casting), yet none of their customers were up in arms or had an outcry anywhere near this level. This has nothing to do with "playing with the big boys." Especially when this is the cheapest (and I don't mean least expensive) kit on the market. It's about treating customers the right way. I understand GTM is busy. But all it would take is a little bit of communication. 5 minutes once a week to provide some visibility. Even if it was as simple as "nothing has changed."

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Dzel

You think you can climb in the ring cause you think you can box?

Apparently you haven't been following this thread...

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SS_Firehawk

All I see is this...



When you should be doing this...

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Dzel

Firehawk that's AWESOME!

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Master_Ly

Again, just want to say thanks again to those that are speak more than enough for the rest of us, haha!

I have similar concerns of those that respectfully voice their thoughts, I"m on this group-buy list, I'm a would-be first time GTM customer, and first time group-buy participant so imagine all of the concerns going through my mind. But I refrain from commenting because this thread shouldn't become flaming through as some have already tried to take it in that direction. Honestly, I'm still in this because what they've offered as an upgrade for our patience and understanding. I think that's great even though I haven't taken delivery on it; waiting for when it's all a go. So in the end, maybe they'll have another added touch of bonus for bearing with them on dealing with the unexpected and out of human control factors.

When it comes to business, it's really simple: phone call and then immediately following up via email to recap is a great COYA method. In my opinion, this works the best for me.

GTM, I personally would say and others may agree that it's very appreciative and helpful when you post a ballpark of when the next pulse-check will be with your update. So if it's a couple weeks, then it is what it is and you've managed the expectation that's when it'll be the next update, even if the update is to say 'there're aren't any update at this moment' or remind what's still in flight.

Thanks all!

Dzel

Nicely said.

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Dzel

Have you seen pucks in car vid of his kit!

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