Stillen SC... I know I know..

swiss370Z · 03-19-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dansracing

You will need an oil cooler as well so put that in your budget too.

1000%

axio · 03-19-2013, 12:21 AM

I think on average, i'm getting about 18mpg on my GTM Stg2 SC Z putting down 507whp with meth and crappy California 91 octane.

Peculiar · 03-19-2013, 01:27 PM

There are plenty of shops in Charlotte that do FI tunes. Check out MotionLab to start. They are a vendor on here I believe?

theDreamer · 03-19-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59

Ok...before I get blasted for not using the search feature, let me explain. I have used it. And although some of the information is there.. I'd just like a little more "specific" feedback on the situation.

I'm thinking about getting the Stillen Supercharger and hoping to reach a goal of about 500hp to the wheels. I'm not positive on how feesable that is...but that's my intent.

I found out today that the Nissan dealership in my area is an authorized dealer for it and they're also able to install it. However installing it partially voids some of the warranty.

My question is... what do you guys think about purchasing those parts through a dealer and allowing them to install them? Is that more/less safe than finding an actual aftermarket shop and having them do it?

Also what would you guys assume is a fair price for installation? They quoted me at $1320. give or take a little bit.

Last but not least what other mods (because I'm sure the SC by itself wouldn't do it) would you suggest (reasonably) that could get me to my goal? And if you happen to have a location/site with the best price and customer service could you post that as well.

I know somewhere through the thousands of posts that these answers exist somewhere...but I'd greatly appreciate it if you guys laid down some knowledge right here in this one.. LOL

Thanks everybody!

I will break down your first post to help the best I can.
-Stillen SC is a solid kit, but it has been shown to not have much expansion room beyond the original design/output. If you really want 500whp then I would suggest rethinking your plan, but 400-450whp is a great power output for the z34 platform.
-Nissan dealership is a good install location as they will be able to quickly diagnosis any errors that might take a stand alone shop longer, though a typical install is fairly straight forward. But, make sure you are covered on your warranty & other work so they try not to void other parts of your car that are not related to the SC. Price for install seems fair, I would suggest making it a straight price from them, so they cannot come back & say it took 5 extra hours to that is an additional $500.
-Additional mods needed:
*Dyno tune - get this, do not use the factory stillen tune
*Oil cooler
*Guages - this can either be digital or analoug but seeing more than the factory gauges will be needed to monitor the engine
*Clutch/flywheel/csc - not needed first day but be prepared
*Brake upgrade - Pad/fluid/line/etc is not needed at first but is a good suggestion to help support the car

An additional suggestion is not just cooling the car more, but also think about venting the car. Additional heat can be contained but removing it from the engine bay is better. Also, set aside some additional funds for those "bad" days.

elperuano · 03-19-2013, 01:48 PM

Warranty? Lol...

If I'm not mistaken, to keep warranty on the 370 with Stillen you need to run the Stillen tune.
So any dyno u take it for a tune will void the warranty u guys try to keep.

If all else fails, jus asi AMNVQ how his warranty turned out with Stillen and the dealer and every receipt he held onto.

theDreamer · 03-19-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Warranty? Lol...

I kept my warranty other than the engine for obvious reasons.
Had many things replaced after the SC install under warranty.

Almost bought an extended warranty, but after reading it most items that could wear or most likely break after 50k are not really covered under the extended warranty I care about.

elperuano · 03-19-2013, 01:56 PM

So u didnt have warranty for the motor correct?

theDreamer · 03-19-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

So u didnt have warranty for the motor correct?

For the most part yes, never needed to test this with the SC thankfully.
I am sure if I bent or snapped something internally that is voided but even with stillen gen 3 intakes a dealership will fight you on it. But if the oil pan exploded I could see them helping with that since the SC is not touching that & is probably factory defect.

elperuano · 03-19-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

For the most part yes, never needed to test this with the SC thankfully.
I am sure if I bent or snapped something internally that is voided but even with stillen gen 3 intakes a dealership will fight you on it. But if the oil pan exploded I could see them helping with that since the SC is not touching that & is probably factory defect.

I don't think that's what they mean about warranty. When going FI everyone is only worried about blowing the motor. Warranty on anything else is not really a major concern.

theDreamer · 03-19-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

I don't think that's what they mean about warranty. When going FI everyone is only worried about blowing the motor. Warranty on anything else is not really a major concern.

Maybe, but it seems dealerships are very quick to point the finger. Just a reason I suggest if he works with a dealership they are happy to work with the SC & all warranty issues that could occur. Be it a window motor to the A/C.

elperuano · 03-19-2013, 02:34 PM

ANMVQ did the exact same. Kept every receipt from the dealer, even paperwork. He got screwed royally when his motor blew by the botch install of the dealer.

Dealers are stealerships. They go by the book. Some of the techs know what they are doing. Others don't. A reputable VQ shop is far more capable of installing SC or TT than any dealer will ever be.

theDreamer · 03-19-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

ANMVQ did the exact same. Kept every receipt from the dealer, even paperwork. He got screwed royally when his motor blew by the botch install of the dealer.

Dealers are stealerships. They go by the book. Some of the techs know what they are doing. Others don't. A reputable VQ shop is far more capable of installing SC or TT than any dealer will ever be.

It all depends, mine was done by a dealership who builds Z & GT-R but they just handle the install and farm-out the tuning. But for most people the dealership will just void everything & using a good stand alone will be more beneficial, if they have qualified techs.

Jamielle@FP · 03-19-2013, 03:08 PM

We've done quite a few 370z's with the Stillen SC, we love it. I find that after doing the SC the car feels like it has a V8 instead of the V6, great power gain and driveability.

elperuano · 03-19-2013, 03:53 PM

Wow, FP chiming in? On Stillen and not there Greddy TT kit? How's Sharif doing?

Voice59 · 03-19-2013, 04:00 PM

Honestly, if I can find a good SC kit that can get me to 500whp reliably..I think I'm going to that route. I know once I achieve my goal I'm going to become complacent and want more...but I gotta draw the line somewhere.. LOL.

If I can't then I'll go the twin turbo route. You guys have been a tremendous help..

As for now I think I'm going to look into the GTM's SC packages... and possibly figure out (between deployments) how to get my car to ATL to Z1.

Thanks again guys...

If you have any more advice/suggestions... I'm all ears.

03-19-2013, 12:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
axio Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 271 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 18	I think on average, i'm getting about 18mpg on my GTM Stg2 SC Z putting down 507whp with meth and crappy California 91 octane. deuce189 likes this. __________________ GTM Stg II SC w/ Aquamist methanol injection, GTM oil cooler, Berk HFC, Stillen CBE, BC ER coilovers, Hotchkis sways, TWM short shifter, Clutch spring mod, CarboTech XP8s

03-19-2013, 01:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 30	Warranty? Lol... If I'm not mistaken, to keep warranty on the 370 with Stillen you need to run the Stillen tune. So any dyno u take it for a tune will void the warranty u guys try to keep. If all else fails, jus asi AMNVQ how his warranty turned out with Stillen and the dealer and every receipt he held onto. Last edited by elperuano; 03-19-2013 at 01:54 PM.

03-19-2013, 02:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 30	ANMVQ did the exact same. Kept every receipt from the dealer, even paperwork. He got screwed royally when his motor blew by the botch install of the dealer. Dealers are stealerships. They go by the book. Some of the techs know what they are doing. Others don't. A reputable VQ shop is far more capable of installing SC or TT than any dealer will ever be. superchargedg likes this.

03-19-2013, 03:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jamielle@FP Removed vendor as no longer works for FP Join Date: May 2012 Location: ATL Posts: 249 Drives: GT-R Rep Power: 0	We've done quite a few 370z's with the Stillen SC, we love it. I find that after doing the SC the car feels like it has a V8 instead of the V6, great power gain and driveability. deuce189 likes this.

03-19-2013, 04:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
Voice59 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Va Beach, Virginia Posts: 1,418 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 17	Honestly, if I can find a good SC kit that can get me to 500whp reliably..I think I'm going to that route. I know once I achieve my goal I'm going to become complacent and want more...but I gotta draw the line somewhere.. LOL. If I can't then I'll go the twin turbo route. You guys have been a tremendous help.. As for now I think I'm going to look into the GTM's SC packages... and possibly figure out (between deployments) how to get my car to ATL to Z1. Thanks again guys... If you have any more advice/suggestions... I'm all ears. elperuano likes this.

03-19-2013, 01:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Peculiar Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charlotte Posts: 49 Drives: 370z 40th Anni Rep Power: 14	There are plenty of shops in Charlotte that do FI tunes. Check out MotionLab to start. They are a vendor on here I believe?

03-19-2013, 01:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 30	So u didnt have warranty for the motor correct?

03-19-2013, 03:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 30	Wow, FP chiming in? On Stillen and not there Greddy TT kit? How's Sharif doing?

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