Nissan 370Z Forum  

370z Forced Induction for Noobs...

Just curious what everyday hard driving would do to reliability when boosted. Like transmission, rear end, driveshaft, ect. Can you still drive the car hard or is it going to

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree115Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-13-2015, 09:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Fort Lauderdale
Posts: 7
Drives: 2015 M6 370z
Rep Power: 11
SDatl404 is on a distinguished road
Default Does boost break parts often?

Just curious what everyday hard driving would do to reliability when boosted. Like transmission, rear end, driveshaft, ect. Can you still drive the car hard or is it going to pop something when you turn the boost up?
AV8rZ likes this.
SDatl404 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465057
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDatl404 View Post
Just curious what everyday hard driving would do to reliability when boosted. Like transmission, rear end, driveshaft, ect. Can you still drive the car hard or is it going to pop something when you turn the boost up?
All depends on power level. The OEM drivetrain seems to be able to handle normal boosted (~500-600whp with proper fuel and tuning) without any major issues. It's likely that, from 'hard' driving, it's the motor that is likely to let go first.

My tuner did blow out a rear diff but it was on an E85 tune with over 600whp and coilover/chamber settings to make it hook-up.

Things can still break as you are talking about boosting a factory NA car, but this platform has shown it likes boost
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TerribleONE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Socal
Posts: 10,203
Drives: WOT
Rep Power: 5851
TerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have about 5k miles of hard driving on mine with no issues except that my face hurts from smiling so much.
David Parra, jwick, 1LIFE and 5 others like this.
__________________
638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI
Build thread
TerribleONE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465057
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerribleONE View Post
I have about 5k miles of hard driving on mine with no issues except that my face hurts from smiling so much.


I'm at about that many miles and mine is a garage toy. It only comes out when it's time to play.
TerribleONE likes this.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Fort Lauderdale
Posts: 7
Drives: 2015 M6 370z
Rep Power: 11
SDatl404 is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks for the info. I want to boost. Nothing crazy maybe 500 rwhp, but I was worried about the car grenading if I wanted to do some spirited driving on a road trip.
SDatl404 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465057
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDatl404 View Post
Thanks for the info. I want to boost. Nothing crazy maybe 500 rwhp, but I was worried about the car grenading if I wanted to do some spirited driving on a road trip.
Do your research and buy a good kit. Have it installed by a good shop and make sure you have a quality tune. If you do that then it should be reasonably reliable.

But always keep an 'oh shit' fund handy as you boost a NA car and you are always playing with fire.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JARblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 44
Posts: 36,450
Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3
Rep Power: 2684441
JARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDatl404 View Post
Thanks for the info. I want to boost. Nothing crazy maybe 500 rwhp, but I was worried about the car grenading if I wanted to do some spirited driving on a road trip.
Boosted cars seem to go boom earlier for people that don't really know what they're getting into. I'm going to guess by your questions, that you have no intentions of DIYing this project and haven't boosted a car before. Don't cut corners with your shop. Be prepared to throw $10K at least into the project and have enough funds set aside for when something does go wrong. Proper maintenance and regular inspection of whatever FI system you choose is extremely important.

Fast Intentions makes some good points in a thread specifically regarding maintenance and longevity of their TT kit. There are a number of other threads (including ones stickied in the FI section) that you should read up on before moving forward.

TT Maintenance and Long term things NOOBS should know
ChaseZ likes this.
__________________

2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic | ARC | CJM | Ecutek | FI | Fujimura | R2C | SPL | Stillen | TWM | Z1 | ZSpeed |
JARblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465057
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JARblue View Post
Boosted cars seem to go boom earlier for people that don't really know what they're getting into. I'm going to guess by your questions, that you have no intentions of DIYing this project and haven't boosted a car before. Don't cut corners with your shop. Be prepared to throw $10K at least into the project and have enough funds set aside for when something does go wrong. Proper maintenance and regular inspection of whatever FI system you choose is extremely important.

Fast Intentions makes some good points in a thread specifically regarding maintenance and longevity of their TT kit. There are a number of other threads (including ones stickied in the FI section) that you should read up on before moving forward.

TT Maintenance and Long term things NOOBS should know
That number is more like $15-20k if you plan to do it correctly.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TerribleONE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Socal
Posts: 10,203
Drives: WOT
Rep Power: 5851
TerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwick View Post
That number is more like $15-20k if you plan to do it correctly.


Install and a quality tune are the most important things when boosting a car that came NA from the factory.
jwick, JARblue and KratikosG37 like this.
__________________
638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI
Build thread
TerribleONE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:34 AM   #10 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Fort Lauderdale
Posts: 7
Drives: 2015 M6 370z
Rep Power: 11
SDatl404 is on a distinguished road
Default

I've got plenty of experience modifying cars, just not 370s which is why I asked for insight from the community. I don't want to boost the car if the driveline is fragile. I love the 370z. Super fun car, but more power is always welcome if it can be done without affecting reliability or forcing me to change the way I drive my car.
SDatl404 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TerribleONE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Socal
Posts: 10,203
Drives: WOT
Rep Power: 5851
TerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDatl404 View Post
I've got plenty of experience modifying cars, just not 370s which is why I asked for insight from the community. I don't want to boost the car if the driveline is fragile. I love the 370z. Super fun car, but more power is always welcome if I can be done without affecting reliability or forcing me to change the way I drive my car.
There is always the chance that something can go wrong, however a lot of us have had nothing but positive experiences. Stay up on your fluid changes and you should be good to go. My car doesn't leave the garage for anything but "spirited" runs
SDatl404 likes this.
__________________
638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI
Build thread
TerribleONE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JARblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 44
Posts: 36,450
Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3
Rep Power: 2684441
JARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDatl404 View Post
I've got plenty of experience modifying cars, just not 370s which is why I asked for insight from the community. I don't want to boost the car if the driveline is fragile. I love the 370z. Super fun car, but more power is always welcome if it can be done without affecting reliability or forcing me to change the way I drive my car.
Do you have experience boosting a NA car? That's probably the key experience you would want.. As mentioned, a number of people are going strong on FI, and those that have had problems are typically due to the tune.

The Z bones are fairly strong. 7AT is pretty much the weak point; 6MT less so but still needs new CSC and clutch to handle FI. Motor is pretty stout to a certain point. A lot of the supporting mods are for cooling purposes. The Z likes to run hot even when NA, so it's important that cooling is a priority when boosting.
SDatl404 likes this.
__________________

2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic | ARC | CJM | Ecutek | FI | Fujimura | R2C | SPL | Stillen | TWM | Z1 | ZSpeed |
JARblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 09:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
Track Member
 
1LIFE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Louisville, Ky
Posts: 513
Drives: Fast Lane
Rep Power: 62
1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute1LIFE has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerribleONE View Post
I have about 5k miles of hard driving on mine with no issues except that my face hurts from smiling so much.
This
Boost it.. Drive the hell out of it.. If it breaks fix it..
__________________
Built GReddy TT
"I downshift next to Prius so the driver hears me hurting the environment"
1LIFE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 02:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Isamu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Minot ND
Posts: 51,960
Drives: every day...
Rep Power: 214
Isamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerribleONE View Post
I have about 5k miles of hard driving on mine with no issues except that my face hurts from smiling so much.
boost
TerribleONE likes this.
__________________
Quote:
It's not an oil leak, it's sweat from all the horsepower!

黒子 ('Kuroko')
Project: SuperNova Owner/Operator and Lead designer @BlackGuard Aeroworks
Isamu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2015, 03:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465057
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isamu View Post
breast
Fixed it
TerribleONE likes this.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Forced Induction & 7AT 370z Info theDreamer Forced Induction 402 04-26-2025 09:12 AM
Forced Induction for Noobs... Slidefox Forced Induction 48 06-15-2013 12:32 AM
Forced induction stiso Northern California Region 8 11-28-2011 12:03 PM
Help don't want forced induction!!!!! Mjthind Engine & Drivetrain 64 05-04-2011 01:00 PM
Forced induction Seth G Forced Induction 13 04-09-2010 12:36 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2