What's the difference between manifold turbo induction and intake turbos?

G0DZ1LLA · 01-21-2013, 08:35 PM

I'm done with all the links, they were all good! I only have one more question.Do you have to upgrade the injectors at all, to match the power increase or boost that the turbo makes?

SouthArk370Z · 01-21-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by G0DZ1LLA

Someone please explain to me the difference between manifold turbo induction and intake turbos, (the one's mounted up on intakes, or up front)? My understanding is that intake turbos pull more air to push more air IN and push the emissions out faster throughout the system, and manifold turbos pull or force the emissions OUT faster to help the engine get rid of exhaust faster and pull in fresh air faster right? IDK, help!

Sorry, hope I didn't just go full retard

Where the turbo is mounted doesn't really matter. It can even be mounted at the rear of the vehicle.
All FI is, by definition, pushing (forced) air into the engine (induction). To pull air through the engine would require a partial vacuum on the exhaust side - not very practical.

If you are referring to superchargers, they are usually mounted with one end toward the front of the engine so they can use the front drive belt for power.

gbrettin · 01-21-2013, 08:51 PM

Turbo intake! The link is ribbing you a little

XwChriswX · 01-21-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

Turbo intake!

Complete with 1psi of boost.

javi370z · 01-21-2013, 09:18 PM

I just lost some brain cells reading this thread

G0DZ1LLA · 01-21-2013, 09:34 PM

I know what superchargers do haha, but i'm asking if you have to upgrade injectors along with turbos because of the increased air flow to the cylinders, or does the fuel to air ratio not change enough to have to upgrade injectors?

blackonorange · 01-21-2013, 09:40 PM

Yes you have to upgrade injectors and fuel pump

swiss370Z · 01-21-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange

Yes you have to upgrade injectors and fuel pump

more air, more fuel

gbrettin · 01-21-2013, 09:53 PM

It all depends how much horse power you make. stock injectors are good for about 500hp on the Z. The A/F is changed by getting a tune using Uprev.

not sure if that helps?

red6spd · 01-21-2013, 10:14 PM

What the hell did I just read. The one vid is comparing a SC and a TC?????

XwChriswX · 01-21-2013, 10:17 PM

For more on turbocharger goodness...

G0DZ1LLA · 01-21-2013, 10:39 PM

Thanks! Got my answer

Too bad there's not a way to get 390whp without supercharging or turbo, those make more than that, yet it seems too far out of reach for just bolt-on mods. 390whp seems like a good number though, not too much and not too little.

lemon-fresh · 01-21-2013, 10:53 PM

Any more details on why 390whp is "just right"?

G0DZ1LLA · 01-21-2013, 11:00 PM

Well from what I've heard the Z tends to be fast without feeling like it is, kinda sounds like the GT-R issue. I feel like 390whp would be enough for anyone to feel the kick or feeling of fast without breaking their neck. But that's just my opinion, how everyone else feels is valid too.

blackonorange · 01-22-2013, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

It all depends how much horse power you make. stock injectors are good for about 500hp on the Z. The A/F is changed by getting a tune using Uprev.

not sure if that helps?

Who kept their stock injectors after goin fi? :s

01-21-2013, 08:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,237 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 542172	Turbo intake! The link is ribbing you a little Last edited by gbrettin; 01-21-2013 at 09:00 PM.

01-21-2013, 09:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
javi370z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: dallas Posts: 118 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 12	I just lost some brain cells reading this thread AlexRaymond19 and DEpointfive0 like this.

01-21-2013, 10:14 PM	#25 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	What the hell did I just read. The one vid is comparing a SC and a TC????? __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

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01-21-2013, 10:39 PM	#27 (permalink)
G0DZ1LLA Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Knoxville Posts: 18 Drives: 2000 Celica GT Rep Power: 12	Thanks! Got my answer Too bad there's not a way to get 390whp without supercharging or turbo, those make more than that, yet it seems too far out of reach for just bolt-on mods. 390whp seems like a good number though, not too much and not too little. gbrettin likes this.

01-21-2013, 08:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
G0DZ1LLA Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Knoxville Posts: 18 Drives: 2000 Celica GT Rep Power: 12	I'm done with all the links, they were all good! I only have one more question.Do you have to upgrade the injectors at all, to match the power increase or boost that the turbo makes?

01-21-2013, 09:34 PM	#21 (permalink)
G0DZ1LLA Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Knoxville Posts: 18 Drives: 2000 Celica GT Rep Power: 12	I know what superchargers do haha, but i'm asking if you have to upgrade injectors along with turbos because of the increased air flow to the cylinders, or does the fuel to air ratio not change enough to have to upgrade injectors?

01-21-2013, 09:40 PM	#22 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 15	Yes you have to upgrade injectors and fuel pump

01-21-2013, 09:53 PM	#24 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,237 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 542172	It all depends how much horse power you make. stock injectors are good for about 500hp on the Z. The A/F is changed by getting a tune using Uprev. not sure if that helps?

01-21-2013, 10:53 PM	#28 (permalink)
lemon-fresh Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Calgary Age: 39 Posts: 471 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 13	Any more details on why 390whp is "just right"? DEpointfive0 likes this.

01-21-2013, 11:00 PM	#29 (permalink)
G0DZ1LLA Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Knoxville Posts: 18 Drives: 2000 Celica GT Rep Power: 12	Well from what I've heard the Z tends to be fast without feeling like it is, kinda sounds like the GT-R issue. I feel like 390whp would be enough for anyone to feel the kick or feeling of fast without breaking their neck. But that's just my opinion, how everyone else feels is valid too.

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